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  1. That looks like box art for the unreleased Sinistar arcade game conversion for the 2600.

    http://atariage.com/...wareLabelID=812

     

    See the arcade game here:

    http://www.arcade-mu...hp?game_id=9553

     

    Why label it "Sky & Rocks" ?

     

    It is common for the illustrator to name the art totally different than the game. Unlike programmers they didn't always play the games or even know the name of the game they were working on. For his assignment might have been given the image of the Sinistar boss and then asked to place the image "in the sky" and surround the ship with rocks thus we have "sky and rocks".


  2. Keeping track of that for a hobby, is utter madness, one of the reasons why I ditched PayPal completely. Think of people who create carts and how many parts go into it, all the way down to ink carts. This is supposed to be fun, why would anyone run an accounting department for that? Last time I checked, accountants get paid pretty well. LOL

     

    What would be fair, is if they check the net in their books at the end of the year, they know who you paid for what (PCB's, EPROM's, protos, blah blah) and they know what you received. It's bullshit to leave the accounting to the user.

     

    Ehh just do all the transactions from one account (paypal or checking) All your expenses and income will be easy to sort because the one will be the deposits and the other the withdraws. Your "profit" would be whatever is left in the account at the end of the year.


  3. More on the artwork. I just caught this part at the end of that page. I didn't know this part of the California law. If you buy a piece of artwork and damage or alter it (even though you own it) the artist can come after you for this.

     

     

    Side Bar – Destruction of Artwork: In addition, an artist whose work is intentionally or is, through gross negligence, altered or destroyed without his or her permission has the right to injunctive relief, compensation for the loss, payment of attorney's fees and expert witness costs, and potentially punitive damages -- even though the artist no longer owns the work. (California Civil Code §§ 987 and 989)

     

    This part I knew.

     

    Federal Law: The Visual Artists Rights Act of 1990 (VARA), 17 U.S.C. § 106A, is a Federal law that protects artist “moral rights” regardless of any subsequent physical ownership of the work itself, or regardless of who holds the copyright to the work. It covers more types of visual art than the California counterpart but it does not have an automatic royalty component.


  4. If a painter paints something, and no longer owns that painting they have no rights to it. So, they create the painting, the store the painting and forget about it, someone else buys the place it is being stored 20 years later and find the painting, and sells it for a huge profit. Ownership was transfered, the painter no longer owns the painting and has no right to get paid for it because it sold. Reproduction paintings are not illegal, counterfeit painting are. There is a legal difference.

     

    Artists have been fighting for more legal protection for years now and much has changed.

     

    These days unless they sign it away the illustrator owns the rights to the image. They do not need to own the physical artwork to retain this. Also in some places (Europe and California for example) the artist is entitled to a percentage of any sale of any original artwork no many how many times it is sold.

     

    Here is California

     

    http://www.legal-new...california.html


  5. They are not 'bad' - but the timer wasnt implemented correctly so when you get to the bottom of the building your car is not waiting for you. At first it was thought you could never move on, however I believe the car eventually shows up, it just takes awhile. A great conversion for when it was done and too bad Atari never got it finished.

    There is that but I too heard some were just DOA and flat out didn't work (dead cart)

     

    I sold mine on ebay and had that problem. The buyer tore open the box and the game didn't work and then the buyer wanted a refund. The box was destroyed. I asked him why would you open a sealed game !?!? He had some excuse about wanting to play it. lol


  6. Ha! Two of these for sale at the same time. It is going to be a race to see who can recoup the money via reproduction carts.

    I guess you haven't been reading the past 10 pages of this thread...or the other two threads on the subject? :?

     

    One guy finds the game. No one has seen it before. The programmer is found and says don't release it so he doesn't. 100s ask for the dump anyway. Other state they will dump the cart and make copies if they end up with the cart. Then a second cart turns up. The first cart is sold on game gavel. The second one is now on eBay.

     

    What did I miss?

     

    A lot of legalize about what could happen to the person who makes reproductions.

     

    Made in China?


  7. I know they "can" be repro'd but if Mr. Stack doesn't bless it and they can't "legally" be remade would they be worth more or less?

     

    So maybe a dumb question, but if these carts aren't able to get repro'd (and assuming there isn't a box of them somewhere) or dumped do these both become more or less valuable to a collector? At that point the only way to play this game is to own one of these two originals.

     

    I will personally bet you as much money as you like that this game uses a standard programming scheme with a basic well known pcb layout that can without a doubt be dumped and reproduced with ease.

     

    I'm sure there is a country where copies of this cartidge can be made without any risk of that.

     

    This cart will get reproduced. It is just a matter of who gets to it first.


  8. Ha! Two of these for sale at the same time. It is going to be a race to see who can recoup the money via reproduction carts.

    I guess you haven't been reading the past 10 pages of this thread...or the other two threads on the subject? :?

     

    One guy finds the game. No one has seen it before. The programmer is found and says don't release it so he doesn't. 100s ask for the dump anyway. Other state they will dump the cart and make copies if they end up with the cart. Then a second cart turns up. The first cart is sold on game gavel. The second one is now on eBay.

     

    What did I miss?


  9. There were some decent games back in 1983-1984 at the arcades etc but living then at that time it really just felt like the rest of the world moved one and and was over. I felt like one of the exceptions because I still wanted to play these new games. Pacman and Donkey Kong along with the Rubic's Cube had just run their course.

     

    It is hard to blame one thing on such a crash but ET and Pacman were horrible. For many casual gamers it was the final straw and they didn't buy another game. Retailers also learned not to write blank checks and assume these games would sell.

     

    I think it was 2 things. Horrible cheap games and a lack of new games to take the place of the classics. While there were some great games during the crash there wasn't anything new that broke the mold. There was no new game strong enough to replace any one of the multiple megahits like Pacman or Donkey Kong which took the world by storm. Had Doom, Mortal Kombat, Tetris or any one of a number of future megahits come during this time things might have been different.


  10. Is that Jon Lovitz in the last photo? LOL

     

    Interesting that Grover's Music Maker made it in the ad. They must have already had the releases planned, I wonder what happened to cause it to not be released? Tempest's site says it could have possibly gotten bad beta test reviews. I wonder if these very kids were the ones who gave Grover the thumbs down! :D

     

    There are some sheets here that summarize parent's reactions. I didn't read every one but it looks like only Cookie Monster was mentioned by name. Everyone liked Cookie Monster.

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