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Wasn’t it some 50000 people who actually signed a petition that Star Wars Episode 8 had to be undone, snd replaced…? I mean - its surreal… …snd yet, Episode is close-to unwatchable if you aren’t multitasking, having it running on a device in the bsckground. This wasn’t even deception, just a mindblowing level of ignorance to basic human ways of reacting/responding to stories, meaning, heroes, etc. The folks behind it couldn’t tell any difference between emotional reactions for seeing a superhero character to which an audience have followed for 40+ years, and Obi-Wan letting himself be cut down by Darth Vader, after the world had been aquainted with these characters for 1 hour and 20 minutes. Man, - that takes some stupendous ignorance - to greenlight that for one of, or world biggest Sci-Fi franchise. Should I’ve stunned by watching them burn down their best stuff, or should I just wake up to that it almost inevitably had to go that way as the overtake happened…? Anything to learn here concerning videogames and franchises and entertainment-stuff people have loved or ‘liked’ for 50 years straigth…?
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Actually, good you bring this up, as using manipulation and tricks instead of delivering quality to best of ones’ available production means, sooner or later will backfire. And moreover, people don’t usually like being manipulated, deceived or lied to, even if its about just ‘dumb entertainment’. Some manipulation tries to feed into peoples mind in such ways they feel its their own idea or view, even wheb they were spoonfed a certain ‘take’ for a long time. For my own part I’m believe in the ‘strategy’ of trying just to deliver quality or fun, don’t overstate, manipulate or ‘play games’ game-players (a rethorical pun this time), ie consumers investing money, - but more importantly time -, on things. Sell whatever you sell, for what it is, not less, not more, not something else. Not paying this basic respect to consumers can lead to companies dissolving, industries in the ashes, major franchises being killed, etc. Good reminder.
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I think for my own part, it was more like all the threads you’ve started - they seem to have a certain direction to them, and interesting as it is to revisit considerations of whats better or worse out there, and/or what could’ve been done differently by Atari in the past, I came to AtariAge back in 2019 already knowing many of these systems were obscure or semi-obscure. I don’t think many here would just go around holding views like the 7800 was of course equally successful as the NES or SMS. The time I’ve been here, its more taken for granted these systems had an unused potential, which now makes them interesting within the world of retrogamers, both ‘purists’ or those who’re all-in as to homebrews & the world of pro-Indie-aftermarket retro games. It feels ‘everyone knows’ which consoles historically came out as selling the most, getting the biggest libraries etc. As you know, in the thread concerning why the Lynx failed, I expressed my view that it wasn’t the quality of the games (for whom these games were meant to chime), but the scarcity and slowness of everything that did it, or rather un-did it.
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The Recharged games are gonna be ported to Arcades!
Giles N replied to JPF997's topic in Atari General
Sorry, my translation-gene or my brain, or a combination of the two, just didn’t bother to work properly today… not a sensitive decision, a sensible decision, I actually seem to remember scratching my head back in mid-90ies reading about a game called ‘Sensible Soccer’ with pictures appearing in my head of bad-ass soccer players breaking off the match offended at a strong word shouted, or not getting the correct odor for their perfumed deodorant in the break… Well, hope my mind actually gets it by now… -
Back to the original question of the thread: The 2600 is the only ‘big’ system, both being extremely significant to video-game history and also having large sales-numbers. But… But, Atari’s continued presence up til the Jaguar isn’t insignificant either, even if they kinda went into ‘spoiled opportunity’ after ‘spoiled opportunity’, sometimes by apparently repeating the same mistake… Yet, out of all that came a long line-up of consoles and home-computers which actually did make its many imprints on video-game history. I do believe some Atari-stunts may have been core to driving video-game evolution. What would the GameGear have been if the Lynx wasn’t released. (Those who know all the backstories can correct me). Would it have been black and white 8-grey-shade palette mini Sega Master? Did Nintendo design the NES knowing what the 7800 could or couldn’t do, or did they just independently do designs wanting just to make sure not to head for a video-game crash of their own? How did the Atari 8-bit family developement impact all home-computer developements?
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The Recharged games are gonna be ported to Arcades!
Giles N replied to JPF997's topic in Atari General
That the pick is sensible. Perhaps I misunderstood, but if that implies there’s a real risk as to whether or not it’ll be liked, shouldn’t they’ve picked something that at least would stand a good chance of being liked, like uncontroversial pick…? If I misunderstood, then I’d be curious to what the ‘sensible’ factor here refers to. -
The Recharged games are gonna be ported to Arcades!
Giles N replied to JPF997's topic in Atari General
..they like to set difficulty to ‘hard’ deliberately …in real life also ? ..looks good. Hope Atari hires them for some game (as mentioned, perhaps a new Warlords or something in that direction…) Hope, if they can make games that play good too … (I hope it will) -
…avoiding insinuations and stealing away, this seems the perfect ‘cloak’ for a 7800 version, If that doesn’t work, just call it RoboCloak 2184…