Leeroy ST

N64 iirc ended in 2003 so 7 years, and only really did great in the US, though that's better than the Jaguar only doing well in, uh. The Office complex of Atari's HQ? However, the Jaguar actually interested people enough post death to have a solid home brew scene, so you could argue Atari won in the end. Beating all the other competitors post shelf life.

In Europe the then younger generation of 6-12 year olds had access to games with micros, from the entry Spectrum to the Amiga, in Europe this demographic was more likely to game on computer than the US, though they did at times get consoles. In the US the computer gaming scene was mostly a 13-30 type thing. The younger ones were basically almost always moved toward consoles for their ease of play, and the market leader in the late 80's heavily targeting the 5-10yo range. Consoles eventually becoming $50-70 helped things to. It's also lines up with the differences why there were more floppy buyers in the US and more tape buyers in Europe. If you were gaming on computer on the US, you saved up or had a well paying job because there wasn't a cheap ZX or Amstrad equivalent that was widespread like in Europe. In fact a computer below $120 at the time often carried the perception of junk unless it was an older mainstream favorite. The mindset was different. In the US games and upgrades cost more, where in Europe even kids could get a chunk of games after blowing some lawns. Or pirate them free much more easily.

In the US people forget the C128 was the stepping stone toward the lack of success in the US for Amiga (putting the C64 race to the bottom aside,). When things were rebounding the C64 was over 2 million sold in 85, the C128 maybe ~2-300k, and the new hyped Amiga did 80k or less. During this time Atari managed to become the leader of the next gen computers in the US with ST, and profitable for the first time in Atari computer history. The reaction and quick decline of the C128 in the US, and the ST approach that brought favorability with vendors and software developers (initially) put the Amiga in the hole from the start. Amiga would struggle with some crazy sales to reach higher numbers in the US. Commodore could never follow up C64 in the US and ended up dying in relevance with it by 1990.

The issue with the 5200 speculation and theories is people forget it was successful, and winning. With consumers. Warner however, who never made money on the computers, was taking deeper than expected losses not just on the computers the 5200 was based on by slight the 5200 itself. Instead of holding firm and allowing the consumer base to grow they started winding down the console than cut it off. Originally despite some set backs, the 5200 was starting to climb more and more, and was ahead of the CV despite the press coverage 5200 would have been a bigger deal if Warner kept the system going. 1.5 years, CV sold well in 84 so that's weird. It also did decent in 85 by colecos own words words. The 5200 was ahead of CV before the wind down by warner, which started before the crash. It's hard for 5200 to catch up when distribution was cut and it was absent in 84. 5200 hit 1 million first before CV, but that's when things changed and it didn't move much more after that. Modern consoles only started with ~7 year cycles with the 360. FMV was huge in the 90's, and FMV adventure games were crazy in sales and production. FMV at home in the 80's would have been had people waiting in lines for the console. Assuming they use a plain featureless cheaper LD player addon to keep the price low.

Looking for something more technically impressive than F18 Hornet on the 7800.

This thread shows when Atari loses, they still end up winning post death.

On closure inspection, the OPs original pic has the games name on the greenbox. Me and @carlsson did the oopies.

Tell me which XEGS software shows it does 3D better? Presumably I assume you are talking polygons.

Gamer geek squad basically. Although you probably wouldn't have that at every store but there can be a couple per region that specialize in it. Similar to how the phone companies (used to) do. Have repair branches.

Which doesn't make sense since that had nothing to do with the conversation prompting you to do it, which was already mentioned long ago, but ok. But I guess twisting things to say "you see?" when said things weren't even argued are par for the course.

Because it's tricky.

There was also another odd PCE game I don't recall the name of, you were a midget elf and you are in the forest and there are lions and squirrels. I kicked them in the corners and nothing happened. Then I though hey, maybe if you kick the squirrels at the lions, the lions will eat the squirrels and that's how you progress. Nope. Then I though maybe you had to line up the lions and squirrels next to each other or by themselves, nope. Then I thought, maybe one of the only other action button on the controller could do something, nope. Tried the run button. Nope. Eventually the solution was to throw the PCE out the window. Then the revelation came to me that Hat-tris wasnt that bad after all.

That's the one. I was thinking granola for some reason. Never could figure that game out.

But this didn't happen with the XEGS so... Which was the point, the 7800 could do as similar game much better than the A8 can without the spec boosts. The only point is the XEGS was in no way better than the 7800 in visuals and graphic features in execution. Some systems had internal storage which imo is more impressive than putting a save solution in a cart but eh. They has positioned to the press from the start the XEGS was the strongest console justifying the price and the press DID roll with it true or not, and did work to an extent.

This also applied for older games and consoles (in most cases). Retro stores with certain business models seem to do well. Gamestop might do better if they replace their funcos and sailor moon pillows with games across consoles. Be a hub for gaming, have more stores have more than one demo unit instead of just a few.

There was another TG16PCE game that has similar aesthetics to this where it looks like a game of snake but it's not. You collect all the things and they attach to you like snake, and there's one item on the ground but nothing happens. Even wrapped around it, nothing. Never got past the first stage. Forgot the name of it. Someone here probably knows

NFL Street and NBA Jam?

When I had Jag CD spin issues I just spun the disc with my hand and closed the hatch as the disc was still spinning. Worked everytime. Until the motor stopped working. Have two unopened CDs but decided to keep them that way since the value for them keeps going up. No more Jag CD adventures for me

The 7800 was better in sprites, Parallax, Pseudo 3D and 3D, let's not downplay the power difference. Look at what was needed for Crownland on A8 and it still had numerous issues. Also, Sound has nothing to do with power. More RAM isn't going to fix or brute force around the XE limitations

The Best Buy club is iffy but it worked in Best Buys favor for awhile in terms of profitability, so I don't think the used game or even new physical game sales "declining" is really GameStop's issue. If anything Best Buy just showed GS was simply poorly run and managed

Now it's a bit iffy on the dates but apparently lifestar came out in 86, so I guess this would depend on if you look at the game broadly or just as an Apple II game. Broadly probably not, as an Apple II game undeniably.

There is still a large crowd that wants uncontrolled Used games (look at MS backlash before Xbox One released) so I wouldn't say used games is the problem but that GameStop's strategy hasn't really changed in how they deal with used games and other money makers like subs and trade ins. I mean it's been basically the same for a damn long time. The mobile gameing and phone contract idea would have been somewhat feasible if they didn't half ass it. As far as I'm seeing the hype for the new CEO to "turn things around" has yet to come to fruition, I don't see him having a plan or implementing new strategies yet. Gamestop will likely crash and burn just because they don't seem to be trying new strategies that can help the company in the long term. While at the same time doing nothing to recover their still rapidly decreasing public reputation. I think maybe a subscription for a month or year, that allows you a set number of used games a month you have to return, and a discount if you want to buy individual games outright. Like combining Best buy/redbox with their old used game plan. Look at Gamepass, that's a slightly different idea (that likely may not make money itself alone) but a retail version following a similar idea while incentivizing trade-ins and subs could work. They need to add tiers and VALUE to their subscriptions Right now what does GS Pro give you? Just $3 discount on newer used games and a game informer magazine?

It got the job done. For Atari's goals anyway of extending the 8-bit line and selling well for the time they were making them, but it was never a serious competitor to the NES despite the ads. I'd liked to see some devs make more XEGS originals but truth be told in mags and press Atari was lying (constantly)about the XEGS power, it was WEAKER than a 7800. Yet Atari kept pushing it as the top of the line game system and the press ran with it, and they kept trying to justify the price in ways that didn't make sense when simply saying it could turn into a computer was really enough on its own. It was even weaker than SMS.

It does seem to be for DOS and Mac. Stutters a bit but it does seem impressive on MAC for 1989 for that device. Though Midwinter came out the same year I'm curious if the black and white version increases performance over what's in the above gif. Although for the time that's actually not that bad. Seems to have a working rev mirror too. Nice. Also people are walking about so that's interesting. Definitely seems ambitious. Some boats on the left side, those seem to move too.

It's not 3D this so it's bad by default. .. Hey, people believed that for awhile back then. Even during the early 2000's.