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You could definitely pay me to do that. I'd run in screaming about the guardian invading Texas and tell him that we need to summon Iolo, Shamino, and Dupre to help destroy him. and then, I can start chanting the mantra to one of the shrines, and someone can bust in dressed up like an Ettin or something. and then we all get tazed and arrested LETS GO!

Double Dragon for C64 and once you load it, all you get for your trouble is a giant pile of dong.

In the middle of his talk just shout out "LORD BRITISH, GRANT ME MORE HP" and see how that goes. Ultima Underworld's engine was very fluid/responsive, and very interactive. The map doodad system with the note feature has not been done since. The stuff that started coming out once real 3D stuff really caught on started to be really watered down. The games were junky. Fancy dancy nonsense doesn't amount to anything if the game induces sleepytime.

If Ultima doesn't come up, something is very wrong. Ultima Underworld's engine is still one of the best 3D engines I have ever played a game in.

I officially hate Albert. Get me his autograph so I can stop hating you!

Xeen is probably the greatest thing Might and Magic has ever done. Too bad it was all downhill after that. I think Ultima 9 and M&M 9 were both two of the most retarded games ever made.

I can't consider Space Hulk an RPG considering its a PC adaptation of a tabletop strategy game that I still play every month or so I do dig alot of the 3D RPGs (Ambermoon / Star), but some of them really are just eye candy in a mediocre world full of characters and locales that I could care less if they are destroyed by *insert generic bad guy here*. Realms of Arkania comes to mind in that regard. It looked great but it was pretty frigging boring. and Ambermoon had all the overworld stuff. It's like they smashed Ultima VI and Might and Magic together into some glorious game that only Germans got to really enjoy! One of my all time favorite games ever created is World of Xeen. Too bad Amiga never got that. It;s basically just a souped up M&M3.

Some of the questions are kind of pointless. Mainly, the Xeen one. i got 10/10. You should have one with Skara Brae and put Ultima and Bards Tale and let someone sit there and pull their hair out trying to pick one. EDIT: also, I would remove the Fable question. That game is junk!

Or just play it on a C128 with SID tunes. :3

How? it lacks Legacy of the Ancients and Legend of Blacksilver. Not to mention Rings of Zilfin, Demon's Winter, Wizard's Crown, Eternal Dagger, .... the first handful of Wizardry games... Phantasie II. Wrath of Denethenor. There are more. Better is subjective here. Ambermoon isn't exactly playable since it's in German, unless you want to play the Beta version that came out like 15 years ago. I'd say the DOS version w/ a Roland MT-32 is better. The Turbo Grafx-CD version isn't too shabby either. I'd pick either of those over the Amiga one, honestly. Also, Space Hulk isn't an RPG. If you want to enjoy a much larger library of imaginative adventures and RPGs, I still vote C64. Some of those 3D RPGs mentioned just look pretty. Past that, they are not very good. They're often a bit mediocre in the story/character department, and your imagination doesn't get to run as wild because you're presented with shiny Amiga art.

I was really hoping for Ultima X. It looked great overall. I still play UO, and hope that UO2 comes out one day (Lord British is doing something right now). Anyway, my votes for the best versions of games: Ultima 1: The DOS version that came with Ultima Collection Ultima 2: They're all goofy. I use the DOS one with the EGA graphics patch. If that didn't exist, I would play the C64 one. I would vote that Ultima 1 and 2 for MSX are the best, but they're in Japanese. They have some cool music, and kind-of-nice art. But since they're not readable to most of us, I chose DOS. Ultima 3: Either the NES one or the DOS one with the VGA + MIDI patch (Before this, it was the EGA + MIDI patch). The nes one is the same game but offers some new tunes, and pretty cool graphics. Ultima 4: DOS + VGA + MIDI = Nothing tops it. The NES version is pretty fun too because of the music and the goofy little sprites. It feels like a Dragon Quest game. Ultima 5: DOS + MIDI. Anything else is just teasing yourself. For these ones, if you're talking strictly original releases with no patches/upgrades what-so-ever, I would vote C64 for all choices except for Exodus on NES and Ultima V for DOS (It's still the best version, no matter what!). The load times for the C64 aren't too awful, the graphics are a bit better in most cases (especially Ultima 2. CGA in DOS is eye damaging), and the sound effects are definitely better than say, the Apple II. Ultima VI is best played on DOS with a Roland MT-32 and the rest, is DOS! The console releases of 5, 6, and 7 are all crap. 6 has some OK music at least.

I mean, I like U6 and stuff. Savage Empire was awesome, and uses the engine. It's just, I really like first person dungeons. Sucks they went away. Serpent Isle man. That's some more awesome stuff. That game ruled. Easily the best new-style Ultima

It plays like Ultima IV, but has way more story, interaction, and character development.

I disliked 6 and 7's move away from the tile based gameplay and first person dungeons. I mostly hated the lack of first person dungeons. and the lack of turn based combat in 7 is just afjglfdhj;eLWGRJFGHTYRGF You get Iolo the triple xbow and you just shrug off every battle. then when you have the black sword, you can basically just win everything, ever. overall, I vote 5 as the best because of the gameplay elements and overall theme. Reconstruction.Voyd.Net Everything should go here and enjoy everything.

HAH I am a loophole in this stupid equation! It's not nostalgia for me. All of this stuff is from before I was born, basically! and, it lasts way more than 20 minutes. Especially because it takes like an hour to roll up a party of duders in Pool of Radiance for C64. seriously though, my nostalgia I guess would be NES/Turbo Grafx etc. I still play those, and spend more than 20 minutes! and for all those old disk machines, I sit around all day and play with them !

Smash TV sounds like a winning idea. I'd say try a shooter like Gunbird 2 for Dreamcast. or since you have MAME, the D&D games, Elevator Action Returns... those are pretty wicked.

holy crap, this is the greatest thing I have ever learned about an Apple II.

I vote C64. There are alot of great adventure games and they are all very playable. Moreso if you do it with jiffy dos or one of the other fastload methods. The games all have more charm there as well. Amiga loses something for some reason. Some of the games that are on both computers are often better on C64 overall, despiste the limitations. For example: Temple of Apshai Trilogy, Netherworld, the D&D games are AWESOME on C64.... Ultima, better. etc. but, the bottom line here, IMO is: If you like RPGs and adventure games... definitely fire up a C64. If you really want platformers and action/arcade stuff, you'd best go to an Amiga. C64 has some really cool platformers, but Amiga just destroys it with crap like Soccer Kid, Shadow of the Beast, and Superfrog.

Ultima IV is definitely when the series hit it's stride. 3 was almost perfect. Just a little rough in the "character" department. The towns folk are all still kind of derpy like in Ultima 2. I don't fault Pagan too much. It's unfinished, so I excuse parts of it. the atmosphere of the game is AWESOME. Tenebrae is still one of the eeriest towns in any game, ever. I get annoyed by the stupid platforming, and the bland tiles in dungeons, but overall, it was the last good Ultima. don't get me started on Ultima IX. "whats a paladin". goddamn. Whoever scripted that needs to have their balls stepped on by dinosaurs for all of eternity.

Craigslist, duder. I found one on there for 400 bucks with like 10 games.

The music on Ultima VII for SNES just doesn't compare to the MT-32 tracks. I mean , look at this crap: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5pYdNNENLI It sounds so awful! The graphics aren't TOO bad, but the menus are clunky. The music is just the worst part though. It makes my ears bleed right now just listening to how dumb it sounds. Anyway, Martian Dreams is cool, but Savage Empire was alot more fun, IMO. I mean, there's frikkin dinosaurs. It's like all the stuff I expected in 9,000,000 BC in Ultima 2, running around attacking me! YEAH! EDIT: YEAH DINOSAURS!!!!

It's a mouse-centric game done on a mouseless console. That, and the audio sounds really stupid compared to DOS W/ a Roland MT-32.... I thought ultima 3, 4 and 5 were, and still are the high point of the series. I like Savage Empires also. Best spinoff ever.

Oh I love Ultima V. The NES one is just completely crappy. They went too computer-interface with an NES game, so it just controls awful. and the music hurts my face. Ultima V is my favorite Ultima. The only spoiler I will give you is that it's awesome and better than everything ever.

Ultima 3 and 4 for NES both got a pretty interesting facelift. They play suprisingly nice. I can't say the same for Ultima V though. That one just plays kinda blehhhhhhh

There are many other similar games, like Wrath of Denethenor (Wrath of Dinner Thor!), and Questron.. Wraith is pretty cool. One of his other first games, Catacomb... yeah it is kinda rough. Wraith is cooler. With both of the games you reviewed, I basically felt like the game itself was pretty bland, but the engine itself was really solid (aside from the enemies being autistic). The targetting in it is preferable for me over Ultima (until say, Ultima V, where you get the little cursor). Luckily Carmack fell in with the right crowd and got to sit back and make really nice engines and let everyone else do the art/designs/gameplay stuff...