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  2. Posted

    After testing a little through emulation, I would say that the SID is like an acrylic painting - mostly pastels, reasonably easy to work with but perhaps not the lively results. POKEY seems more like an oil painting where each colour uses a different kind of oil that takes varying amounts of time to dry, some will not be possible to paint over eachother, others will need to be carefully mixed to get the desired colour. It probably takes longer to learn how to paint your image using the oiley POKEY than it using the acrylic SID, and some people simply prefer acrylic paintings anyway.

     

     

    I love the texture, full richness and depth. Nice comparison. Water colors, acrylics, and oils. That applies to the displays as well. Of course one machine requires a master painter to get all of them out of it. The other even with a master painter can never obtain oil works in its medium, for it's canvas is not able take the oil. They can be enjoyed just the same as you walk through the gallery of of works.

     

     

    I forgot about the water colours, but I think I'll reserve those for the AY. :P

     

    And Paula is photography. :D

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    I played around with sound a lot on the A8 back in the day, in Atari BASIC, and I still remember that of the four parameters in the SOUND command, the third one was known as "distortion" and was an even number and determined if the type of sound was "tone (10)", "white noise (8)", or "distortion (12)".

     

    I remember noticing that the range of the tones were 0-255, with 0 being nearly inaudibly high but as you went down, the changes in pitch were uncomfortably discrete and large, and I remember the lack of really low notes. The octave range (and pitch control) in this regard were woefully lacking. However, I played with distortion 12 and didn't think it was much use, and then I heard the first A8 game soundtracks to use the perfect musical scale found in 12 (in amongst the "off" sounds, if you know what I mean) and I was amazed at the distinct bass and quality they gave A8 sound, and I've loved Distortion 12 ever since then. Hence my example above, which I would swear uses two channels for that.

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    The thing about POKEY, ST's AY chip, the BBC Micro sound chip and so forth is that these all sound like general-purpose sound chips for a multitude of uses in both music and sound FX.

     

    Bob Yannes' SID sounds like he made it to resemble the type of (godawful) synth music HE likes, and we all have to work around his limitations imposed on us.

     

    I think this is why I don't like SID.

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    In 1985 my family made a terrible mistake – a mistake that would have far-reaching consequences; a mistake that would blight my life for several painful years. I still look back at it with a sense of sadness and, yes, if I’m honest, fury. What happened was this – and if you’re a gamer of a certain age, you may want to sit down: my family bought an Atari ST instead of a Commodore Amiga.

     

    Perhaps his memory of when this purchase happened has warped with time? Maybe he's thinking of 1987? It would make more sense.

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    I see 4 wrong and three unanswered. Not bad if you didn't cheat! I made up the questions and The Doctor pointed out two that I got wrong!

     

    DavidMil

     

    I didn't spot your post with the answers until after I did the quiz. I just wanted to test my own memory of my experience with an Atari 600XL and 800XL. I was glad I remembered about that plotter I had, it was an interesting little device, but it broke quite fast.

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    but why i reacted to your post is because, you come here as an amiga fanboy, on a Atari forum in a ST topic and start a flame war and trolling around.

    it is fine by me that you feel and think like this, but could you not do this in a amiga forum. you don't see me or others ST user go on the amiga forum and start making silly Atari threads.

     

    I thought this thread was done until it was bumped up again the other day. I wish an admin would lock it so it will sink without trace.

     

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    1. i my book a synth chip is better then a low level sampling chip, i will say technically the chip in the amiga was groundbreaking, and it lay down the road for many things

    2. but i did not like the sound from it in many things.

     

    1. I can't bloody STAND synths, like SID or the massively overrated Vienna by Ultravox (I never saw the appeal of that song).

    2. What you heard, I'm assuming, is many old Amiga games (no doubt ST ports) from the late 1980s. I would suggest that you look at the highest-rated examples from the Amiga Demoscene from the 2010s to see how good Paula can be.

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    What I think is true though, is that many Paula stuff sound a bit muffled and squashed (if they are the correct words in english) while the YM is higher fidelity (if that's also the correct word).

     

    The muffling is caused by the separate low-pass filter in the A500, added by Commodore later because low memory limits resulted in poor samples which sounded harsh until they were muffled by the filter. However, with more and more memory, Paula can sound amazingly clear.

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    Calimero, I looked at your comprehensive thread about Atari vs Commodore over Amiga, and I do believe you're right about what you said before, and you say that From Bedrooms to Billions Amiga Years tells the truth, and that Viva Amiga were spreading falsehoods and even false newspaper articles (I never liked Viva Amiga anyway, I thought there was something off with it).

     

    From my personal recollection of articles written decades ago, Amiga were having difficulty finding an interested party for their tech, and that Tramiel wanted the chips but NOT the design team, so that is at least the truth as I know it.

     

    RJ Mical and Dave Needle were probably extremely pissed at Tramiel at the time, so maybe it was just a bit of mud-slinging, but they relented later on? Didn't Mical tell the truth in FBTB? I'll have to check out the part of that doc you mentioned at some point.

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