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  1. Posted

    Yeah. I expected that you will come with that. The next rule for such case: detach everything unnecessary for basic work from computer.

    Third rule (just to prevent more unnecessary replies) would be to call neighbour or local friend for help.

    How is that this 'huge design error' was not fixed ? Because nobody reported to Atari (or at least minimum reports).

    Truth is that I know much worse design failures, actually myself found some:

    http://atari-forum.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=32669

     

    1. This was around 28 years ago, and I was too panicked and too young to think logically. To be frank, I can't remember if I tried to resolve it but it happened again or not, but I think I would've tried something.

    2. What could a neighbour or local friend do?

    3. I will reply here as often as I like, you're not going to shut me up that easily.

  2. Posted

     

    It would not help!

     

    Problem is that ST wont boot if "auto fire" (hardware switch on joystick) is turned on!

     

    I concur!

     

    Paranoid, it's not just a case of "turning it on and off again", it would happen whenever a joystick was connected with autofire turned on and contact made at the right moment. I mean, once you know how it happens, you can take steps to prevent it by turning off the autofire, but as I said, I practically panicked when it first happened, as I recounted above.

  3. Posted

     

     

    The reason is simple: coders of TOS did not care about. And why should waste time about such trivial thing ?

     

    Trivial? I thought I'd damaged my ST, somehow, and I risked it further by taking it as I did into town to get it seen to, to no avail, on an unnecessary trip, because I did not know about this quirk of the ST, and I had absolutely no possible way of knowing about it back then.

     

    Put it this way, this philosophy of "not caring" nearly cost me a computer!

     

  4. Posted

     

    I prefer the term accurate description of your posts. I didn't insult you, I never called you any names or implied that you are some stupid person who can't see the light, as your posts seem to imply for any ST fan who reads this. It's absolutely OK not to like, dislike, hate with every fiber of your being the ST, what ever you think accurately describes your feelings, but I don't see why you need to keep repeating those long debunked myths, misinformation and outright lies. I also don't see why you refuse to accept the proven arguments about the ST's merits that have been made by other users or why you refuse to accept that any other experience but your own is valid.

    You've had a bad experience with the ST, that's great because you found the Amiga and you saved your 16-bit computing. We've had various experiences with the Amiga, good, bad, whatever, and a wonderful experience with the ST. That doesn't mean that any of us is an idiot, just that we had different needs or expectations or whatever. When you realize that, you won't come accross so arrogant.

     

    Sorry, Christos, I meant to change that first remark about insulting me, but for some reason the Edit button was non-existent. I take that back. I was also soused when I posted last night, so that's another something-I-should-not-do for me, really, but I was upset by the posts I saw, namely yours and the one that followed it, I reacted and I take it back.

     

    I don't hate everything about the ST - the graphics are good and, to be frank, I've been impressed by a lot of the Demoscene graphics stuff I've seen on it (both STFM and STE), but I think the poor sound chips let down the ST line. After all, that's what this thread was all about. If I've gone off on a tangent, I shouldn't really have insulted people on the computers they had, as children, or by choice, or both.

     

    I had a mostly good-to-great experience with the ST - after all, it was my first 16-bit system, by choice - and I enjoyed several games on it, namely Carrier Command, Damocles, E-Motion, Vaxine and a few others. The joystick autofire was the only worrying part, as I recall. It was only later that I went for the Amiga, after much convincing of my parents after the £300 they just splurged out (I must've made a hell of a speech, I don't recall anything about it). They gave in, my Dad walked in my room at Christmas and practically threw in my first (albeit faulty) Amiga 500 and that was that. I sold the ST to the college I was at at the time, and continued to use it there for a while. I have fond memories of my time with the ST, but it was not a Jay Miner machine (I must've had a REAL hard-on for that guy at the time, but all I knew was I wanted a kind of "higher-end" Atari 800XL experience. More of the same, please, etc. BUT, the audio was a disappointment for the most part.

     

    I don't mean to troll, but my drinking at night gets the better of me. I should really stay off forums at those times, I've landed myself in trouble before. If I sound hostile once more one night, then call me out on it. :)

  5. Posted · Edited by Foebane

    Foebane... the problem was your joysticks autofire. Btw since you clearly hate the st and since anything you write is produced by a very simple piece of code

     

    if(string=='amiga'){

    return good;

    else

    return bad;

    }

     

    Is there any more point to your comments?

     

    To elaborate, I don't exactly hate EVERYTHING about the ST, and to be frank, "hate" is a strong word, but I really don't like that Yamaha sound chip, it just doesn't seem suited to a 16-bit system.

     

    I couldn't edit my previous post to you, so I posted again.

     

     

     

    I am NOT trolling, and I take a very DIM view of people who think I am. Don't forget, this is an Atari forum, not just ST, and I appreciate the Atari 400/800/XL/XE much more than I appreciate the Jackintosh, and I doubt I would be banned because I support at least one of the platforms here.

     

    I take back my attitude here, but again, I couldn't edit my previous post.

  6. Posted

    OK, first time I joked here, mostly because name Foebane - but now I asking moderators to look his trolling, and get rid from this misery.

     

    I am NOT trolling, and I take a very DIM view of people who think I am. Don't forget, this is an Atari forum, not just ST, and I appreciate the Atari 400/800/XL/XE much more than I appreciate the Jackintosh, and I doubt I would be banned because I support at least one of the platforms here.

  8. Posted

     

    Something was touching a key?

     

    That happened to my STe recently. Booted and keyboard seemed dead and constantly making that sound. Moved it to a different room and it worked. Discovered something was resting against the space bar just enough that it wasn't obvious, but enough to give constant keypresses.

     

    You are VERY warm indeed. Clue: It's to do with the connected peripherals I mentioned, but I bet you'll never guess it in a million years - no offence. :)

  10. Posted

    I've noticed that there seems to be two people in particular across the 8- and 16-bit divide, and who happened to head teams who developed competing systems, namely Jay Miner and Jack Tramiel.

     

    One was a mild-mannered man with a cute dog who developed pacemakers when he wasn't developing robust, polished early computer hardware and who suffered from kidney problems.

    The other was a man who suffered horrifically in his younger years, and as a result grew a ruthless streak and a zeal to promote cheap computer hardware and undercut the competition.

     

    One created the Atari 400/800/XL and later on masterminded the Amiga development, both computers which I admire and appreciate to this day.

    The other spearheaded the development of the Commodore 64 and later Atari ST, two computers which initially undercut the Atari 8-Bit AND the Amiga (to my annoyance) who won with the former but ultimately lost with the latter.

     

    There is the old axiom "Nice Guys Finish Last", but to be frank, I know which one I'd rather admire as an icon of computing. I guess it could so easily have gone the other way.

  11. Posted

     

     

    When Jack Tramiel took over Atari Inc. it was clear that he have only one goal: to bring RBP (aka ST) to market. Everything else was not important.

     

    So Amiga would have no future with Jack Tramiels Atari.

     

    Dave Morse have no option but to sold Amiga to Commodore (since Apple, HP, Sony, SiliconGraphics... all turn down Amiga)!

     

    You mean Tramiel wanted Amiga so badly so he could KILL IT STONE DEAD??? WHAT a BASTARD DOUCHEBAG!

     

    What is RBP again?

     

    So, here's the real reasons why those companies turned down Amiga:

    Apple sucks, it's only ever been about Jobs' closed-system vision, nothing else matters.

    HP only ever do printers anyway.

    Sony are Japanese and do their own thing.

    SiliconGraphics are a bit high-end with their stuff, to be honest.

  13. Posted · Edited by Foebane

    Let me tell you a little story about one way in which the ST sucks:

     

    I had my STFM back in 1990, around Autumn, and one day I put it on and was horrified to hear a constant beep, like that annoying blippy little beep that occurs every time a key is pressed, but this time it was a constant bleep and I couldn't do a thing, like use the keyboard or mouse, and the ST had locked up. So I disconnected everything, including the mouse and joystick, and proceeded to put the ST in a suitcase, wrapped in newspaper and took it to the computer shop.

     

    Guess what? It worked perfectly. I was confused and annoyed that I'd taken this thing on the bus to town and had to go back with no explanation as to why it suddenly started to work again, but I took it back home, and yes, it did work again.

     

    Guess what the cause of the lock-up was. I'll give the answer at the end of today.

  17. Posted

    Platformers? You want platformers on the ST, you go to the Demoscene, there's a whole massive bunch of ST demos disguised as platform games out there.

     

    The premise is simple: unlike something logical like on the Amiga where a multi-part demo is loaded one part at a time and you press the mouse button to move on to the next, ST demos require you to play a (mostly shitty) platform game with a lame character who goes to each door to load each part. I mean, it's honestly tedious, whoever came up with that idea should be shot.

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  22. Posted · Edited by Foebane

     

     

    I know tht you said that is "good for him" and I continue that it is not only "good for him" but also for million other people.

     

    Why I am so defensive toward Jack? Why you can not accept that Atari Falcon is better in some ways than Amiga 1200 (but you rather pooling argument of "14bit Amiga sound"?!? :D)

     

    Why are you so negative toward Jack Tramiel and so pro Jay Miner?

     

    I'm sure I acknowledged the ST/Falcon's sound superiority (at least with MIDI and DSP) in an earlier post on this thread.

     

    I'm so Jay Miner because I grew up with his hardware, and was jealous at the C64 getting all the software that the A8 could've also handled. I only knew one other A8 owner at school, and I swapped games with him. I also got an ST when I should've gotten an Amiga from the start, I never even went to the local computer shop for a demo of both of them, I just carried on with Atari, not knowing ownership had effectively swapped around.

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  23. Posted

     

     

    Making C64 best selling computer is "NOT GOOD FOR HIM" but also good for MILLIONS of people that could afford computer back in days when computer tend to cost more than 1000$! His moto was "best product, for best price", "do not charge more than twice for your products"... you should listen to his interview before you fall into Amiga fanboys trap of spiting on Jack Tramiel, trap of lies that was setup and spread by R J Mical and Dave Needle and now propagated by all Amiga fanboys!!

     

    I didn't say "NOT good for him". Read again.

     

    Why are you so defensive towards Jack Tramiel? Did you personally know him? Are you a relative of his?

  25. Posted

     

    Exactly, any way you slice it -- the Amiga was a commercial failure. There are a lot of superior products that fail commercially -- Betamax was way better than

    VHS..... The consumers didn't buy it. Obviously, Commodore's management team was inept -- they had a great product, but they couldn't market it. Most

    Americans were never even aware the computer existed -- in its home country.

     

    I really love my Amiga and Atari Jaguar -- but I acknowledge they were both commercial disasters.

     

    I would say that the Jaguar and Falcon were commercial failures (disaster is a bit strong) but the Amiga sold quite well outside of North America. The way I see it, lack of R&D on Commodore's part (or at least, not enough), mismanagement and looming obsolesence were the death knell of the Amiga and Commodore, as the PC became much more powerful, upgradeable and popular as a gaming machine. Even if Commodore had gotten their act together, the Amiga would've had a fixed lifespan anyway, but would've been a serious competitor to the PC during that time. But it was too little, too late.

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