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  1. 2 minutes ago, MrBeefy said:

     

    So you are admitting that you invited him hear to start a flame war? That's why my bacon is sizzling.

    No.

     

    1 hour ago, 1001lives said:

    I completely agree with you and ColecoJoe - the thread needs some clean up. But I will say, inviting people here to see if they can attempt to discuss their actual issues isn't a bad thing. He showed what a lot of haters show - no logic, and attention seeking.

     

    It's on the person if they can't make a cogent point after being given a real, moderated platform.

     

    Trolls, haters, etc. can be reasoned with and turned around if you can get through to them. That's what Tommy has done on several occasions. 

     

     


  2. 11 minutes ago, MrBeefy said:

    Not to mention this...Screenshot_20200201-114349_Twitter.thumb.jpg.73ba65a55af6e07fba997351ba9e10a6.jpg

     

     

    That seems pretty aggressive too and I'd be curious as to if Tony was banned for being aggressive why this is allowed? It is this type of stuff that brought said drama. Tony wouldn't have even been here if it wasn't for the purpose to be put in his place. 

     

    I already pointed this out personally. You may have missed it after posting too much bacon 🤡

    1 hour ago, 1001lives said:

    I invited him here because he was spamming the Amico subreddit with hateful comments about censorship and announcing how important he was by being "invited" here to talk to Tommy. Even though I told him to come here and take up his grievances directly. And guess what? The guy aired how hateful he was on here and made it public how silly he was. 

     

    The guy has been all over for months trying to force interviews with Tommy and finding ways to write blogposts negatively about him and the Amico.

     

    You should probably just let people do what they want to do instead of literally, now, commanding someone to do as you will. No one can make anyone stop commenting or responding to vile, hateful posters or commentators. He literally just posted that the initial feedback for Amico was 80% negative until he targeted the haters and figured out how to communicate with them or get through to them. 

     

    Allowing really uneducated hateful vitriol to multiply or get spammed all over without dealing with it is a recipe for disaster for a fledgling company. Social media/PR is part of Tommy's job. 

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  3. 1 minute ago, bojay1997 said:

    The point is, all of that didn't need to be brought here.  Believe it or not, this forum existed long before Amico and it will be around long after.  If Tommy was concerned, he could have dealt with the guy directly outside of this forum or started his own private forum to address hostile commentators.  

    I completely agree with you and ColecoJoe - the thread needs some clean up. But I will say, inviting people here to see if they can attempt to discuss their actual issues isn't a bad thing. He showed what a lot of haters show - no logic, and attention seeking.

     

    It's on the person if they can't make a cogent point after being given a real, moderated platform.

     

    Trolls, haters, etc. can be reasoned with and turned around if you can get through to them. That's what Tommy has done on several occasions. 

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  4. 3 minutes ago, bojay1997 said:

    You mean the guy that you and several participants from the Q&A thread literally baited into joining the forums knowing full well he was toxic?  I mean, you literally brought the drama in here as he wasn't even registered or aware of this forum before.  Please take the advice that others have given.  There will be enough challenges along the road to getting Amico launched without picking fights with irrelevant bloggers and Youtubers or trying to sew more drama on this forum.  

    I invited him here because he was spamming the Amico subreddit with hateful comments about censorship and announcing how important he was by being "invited" here to talk to Tommy. Even though I told him to come here and take up his grievances directly. And guess what? The guy aired how hateful he was on here and made it public how silly he was. 

     

    The guy has been all over for months trying to force interviews with Tommy and finding ways to write blogposts negatively about him and the Amico.

     

    You should probably just let people do what they want to do instead of literally, now, commanding someone to do as you will. No one can make anyone stop commenting or responding to vile, hateful posters or commentators. He literally just posted that the initial feedback for Amico was 80% negative until he targeted the haters and figured out how to communicate with them or get through to them. 

     

    Allowing really uneducated hateful vitriol to multiply or get spammed all over without dealing with it is a recipe for disaster for a fledgling company. Social media/PR is part of Tommy's job. 

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  5. 8 minutes ago, MrBeefy said:

    Yeah there would be no Amico for you to love if us Tommys didn't go behind Atari enemy lines. We distracted them from work with our ever so delicious tacos. In stead of getting combative with the Tommy Legion of Tacoricos maybe you should thank us. Without us destroying Atari your friend Amico would not be able to make it into your living room. You should apologize and thank @Flojomojo for his part in the tacos wars. Us vets are often forgotten and under appreciated by those who haven't fought but have reaped the rewards of our service.

     

    To my fellow members of Tacorico Squad, I salute you. 

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    In bacon and tacos we trust.

    🥓🌮🥓🌮🥓🌮🥓🌮🥓🌮🥓🌮

    You're speaking to a veteran of the Cat-Bun wars. Which was much more intense than the Taco Wars.

     

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    That's a picture of me in the middle for proof. (real footage)

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  6. 16 minutes ago, ColecoJoe said:

    I don't remember that battle. Wasn't it Atari vs. Intellivision? Although it was never a fair fight in my eyes. INTV WON!

    I think Coleco vs Intv was a much more fair battle. Those consoles always struck me more as a "2.5 generation" whereas the 2600 was more outdated. Of course, the 2600's stranglehold kept it around longer though.

     

    1 minute ago, MrBeefy said:

    He doesn't know that you are a Tommy sock puppet account. 

     

    We are legion....

     

    Man remember those days? The ones in which people were calling us Tommy. Because we liked the Amico. Because we (Tommy) were a part of a hit operation. An operation to undermine everything Atari. Do you remember those day?

     

    I feel like we have been missing a few of the other Tommy Legionnaire Sock Puppets though. Weren't there at least like 4 more of us Tommys?

    Really? That happened? What the heck haha


  7. 17 minutes ago, racerx said:

    One thing's for sure...Brandon's random bits of word salad have been some of the most entertaining things I've read. I'm still trying to find the modern Enigma device that deciphers this code.

     

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    "well balanced"

    "great potential for games"

    "versatility that Atari offers"

     

    """custom cooling system"""

    "I ESPECIALLY ENVY THE UI THAT GOT PORTALS WITH THE SPEED LOADING"

     

     

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  8. 2 minutes ago, roots.genoa said:

    What I see is:
    - left: an obnoxious brat
    - right: same obnoxious brat with makeup, and apparently afraid of burning his hands!

    What I see is

    John P:

    Left: I can't wait to get my Atari VCS, keep up the good work guys

    Right: It wouldn't be in your best interest to screw us Atari!!.... you won't like the consequences...

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  9. 14 hours ago, kevtris said:

    The Amico is pretty small time right now (compared to what you want it to be) and while you can control the narrative right now, once it gets bigger that will become impossible.  So far it seems that when a small youtuber posts something deemed "negative" or wrongthink, the current solution is to post a comment, then send them t-shirts and hats, and then they make a more positive video afterwards.  I have seen this several times now. Whether this is what really happens or not, it sure looks like it.  While this is good viral marketing, it makes me wonder what will happen when larger outlets start reporting on it that can't be so easily swayed with swag. 

    "Wrongthink" is a pretty horrible, nearly damning word. I wouldn't use it here. What I think we're dealing with, and you can disagree freely, is the CEO of a company sending out free swag to promote his product with the hardcore crowd before any real marketing begins for the casual sector. And I don't think that's out of the norm for any company. In fact that's par for the course. It would be odd if at this point no one was getting any promotional material on Youtube. It would almost be remiss of the company.

     

    What's happened, pretty much exactly, is no one is really sure what to make of the Amico. I wasn't. I had no idea and was really confused. At first glance it looks like it may be another flop "retro game console" to add to the pile. Of course that sounds better on Youtube, too. Youtube sensation = makes negative clickbait video = make money on ad revenue.

     

    I think Tommy is recognizing the lack of marketing out there, and going to these people and saying "Hey this is actually what it is." People are then saying "okay, I thought it was something else entirely." If he's got the free time and it's HIS product, this early on in the development, let him have at it.

     

    I don't know if you watch CUPodcast but Pat and Ian are the most egregious examples of what happens when negative thinking is allowed to fester. It is LITERALLY "wrong think." What they think about Amico is wrong and they won't discuss otherwise. They've gone from saying Amico won't sell, to now saying that Amico has no audience because anyone can buy and use a PS4. And everyone in their comment section all repeat what they say because they say it. Like gospel. You can surely understand how Tommy, or anyone working at Intellivision, may want to curb that right now if it's within their ability.

     

    Again, this is entirely the fault of the lack of marketing. Tommy knows, so that's why he's seeking out smaller youtubers in the hardcore crowd himself. That's also why he's here.

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  10. 4 minutes ago, GrudgeQ said:

    On the good news front they did show the menu in action and actually went into Ant Stream and a game in the Atari collection (also I think they fixed the "Asteroid" spelling issue). However, yeah, there is no way they are shipping this thing anytime soon - hand assembling in a jig is about a prototype as you can get at the production level.

    I'm pretty impressed they showed anything at all, but the UI is really really poor and the console's lineup looks so barebones. 

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  11. 6 minutes ago, Jeffrey Bouchard said:

    Tommy,

     

    just received an Atari email with an update: still doesn’t sound good.

     

    https://atarivcs.us16.list-manage.com/track/click?u=514d5e8e2ca64b78c0c6f5a2e&id=f338f207d8&e=7bcac1c252

    Pre-production? So they aren't in actual production yet? Do we have any way of knowing how many of these are being made? The pictures they took could be a dozen and that's all that are even manufactured right now.

     

    Pre-production could take months.

     

    And the OS is a WIP build... So in no ways final. 

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  12. 1 hour ago, RetroAdvisoryBoard said:

     

    Here's a lead for you.. I'd been thinking of such a game as well, glad you guys have this on your radar.

     

    For the last decade, but originating in 1986 from a Japanese toyline and children's series/books called "Maple Town" or "Maple Town Stories", Toei Animation with Tonka as the toys manufacturer created a whole woodland creature setting of anthropomorphic, cute critters targetting young children, especially girls.  Playsets, hundreds of collectible characters with clothes, every animal had a job - perhaps working at the post office, the local bakery, the supermarket, the sawmill, the furniture factory, etc.   There's the built-in building element of building a town filled with unique characters and tasks. 

     

    That series died off in the mid 90s but was replaced in the late 00s as "Sylvanian Families" internationally, rebranded here in North America as "Calico Critters" (at one time "Calico Critters of Cloverleaf Junction").  The series has a new Netflix tie in and a toyline with hundreds of characters, reissuing some of the old Tonka molds but still dozens of character models, all with families, all with unique stores and jobs.  It creates quite the "lived in" town experience for a 3-12 year old target audience.

     

    Owner EPOCH Everlasting Play (also goes by EPOCH Making Toys) does not have, nor have they had, a partnership for a video game license - neither "Calico Critters", "Sylvanian Families" or the possibly now-expired "Maple Town" license appear in game searches and these lines really haven't branched out to other licenses.  But they promote quality toys, they brand the line as wholesome and loving, they're a regular fixture at independent smaller toy stores, filling in the niche that was doll houses.  From their website:  All the citizens in Calico Village have hobbies and jobs. The underlying theme is giving, friendship and happiness. Calico Critters are wholesome, never trendy.  Calico Critters of Calico Village are timeless, classic toys that delight children and promote wholesome family values. 

     

    Huh.  That sounds like a certain Nintendo-hating cult leader CEO who loves the groveling over on his AtariAge Intellivision threads that I know ;-)

     

    Really, it may be a good match if you can reach out to them to discuss if they're open to a license.

     

    As to gameplay, I would suggest the team or partnering developer take a multi-game approach.  Animal Crossing has the "checking in with friends and family over time" appeal to see what everyone has been up to.  You engage in little tasks and invest in characters chores and life-building.  Little Dragon's Cafe came out Summer 2018 but has the protagonist (group of friends/family) running a local cafe, the mechanics have customers come in and out of the cafe and telling stories, they need help to complete their adventures - the cafe becomes the hub for accepting adventures, BUT they're also running the cafe, so they have to run the shop, and hired help all have flaws and do silly things and are more troublesome than they're worth sometimes.  An opportunity for humor definitely (think Earthworm Jim humor, dialed to a for-kids audience, but in the end endearing as you grow attached to these characters coming in and out of your shop).  Now with Little Dragon's Cafe, your adventurers yield famous recipes that you can sell at your shop to draw in more customers... and some recipes could grow less appealing with time or customers grow bored of the same fare.

     

    Of course such a team should look at the farming and crafting mechanics of Stardew Valley, Harvest Moon, Rune Factory, Stranded Sails, and Little King's story, or the dozens of more recent games built around crafting and allocated task management.

     

    The unique Amico pitch?  Well, the group "adventure" could play out on screen.  Or managing the shop can be the on-screen shared tv experience.  Players are getting cues about things that need attention on their controllers.. they're maybe talking to each other as cues start buzzing from all over - oven is done, dishes are piling up, table four is flagging us down, a large party just arrived without a reservation.. eggs are burning, table seven has some unique request combinations for the soda jerk to make.. think about the frenetic moments of Overcooked that require a lot of people managing tasks.  BUT with the forgiving nature of the Karma engine that isn't going to condemn a player who can't keep up based on its tabulated metric of their experience and performance.


    Then throw in a team adventure component.. maybe the whole team goes to one of the many other shops/locations in town to help, maybe one player goes to complete that task and they temporarily get a little map on their controller as they go to complete that task/fetch quest, and in the meanwhile, the remaining 3-7 players are running the shop and picking up their chores, their tasks, making their lives a little more hectic.  BUT if that player/players escaping the main gameplay can complete the task.. well, the whole group gets a bonus, sells more, has a new item, unlocked features.. etc. 

     

    Replay ability?   You don't need to work at a cafe each time.  There's a hundred shops.  Each with a hundred tasks.  Throw the gang into the post office.  Into the chocolate factory a la I Love Lucy.  Into the fire station and respond to small emergencies around town.  You guys can build this into an amazing world for kids to explore and play together with friends and families.  Scale down for single player, or throw all sorts of tasks and happenstance and humor with groups playing together.


    Since it's digital, the whole game can grow and grow and grow with future updates into its own beast of a game.

     

    Like Animal Crossing, it

    • has anthropomorphic cute characters
    • you check-in with them as the world evolves over time
    • build a town or exist in a built town
    • complete small achievable tasks
    • customizable characters
    • mini games in every shop/location

    Unique features

    • group play
    • fetch quests can be done solo or with others
    • facility/shop management gives it an Overcooked frenetic sense
    • you're invested in a growing cast of characters - it becomes your escapist town
    • opportunity to use the phone app for easter eggs like wardrobe changes, decorate your home
    • opportunity to use the phone app to assign tasks when not on Amico (think Farmville)
    • sharing your village or town with friends through the controller RFID
    • toyline tie-in already exists to engage young children
    • Netflix shorts and classic series already exist to help expand the brand/concept

     

    And although it's a natural fit for kids, we know Animal Crossing has a particularly outstanding demographic of women ages 18-24.  You know all those 30-something moms Intellivision is reaching out to?  How about a toyline tie-in that they're familiar with from the late 80s-mid 90s, with a hundred cartoon episodes as a tie-in, an almost identical concept now in toy aisles and on Netflix for their 2-10 year old daughters (and sons, nothing too gendered really)?   AND it hasn't been picked up as a license by any competitors?

     

    Oh, and would you look at that.. look who's appearing at Toy Fair in a couple weeks and getting recognition as one of its 25 Hero toys.. if only Intellivision were sending somebody out to NYC's Toy Fair in a couple weeks.  *sigh*

     

    EDIT - looks like they were at London's January Toy Fair.  They are not showing up when I look up retailers at NYC's February Toy Fair (must they share the same name???)

     Can't break all this down right now but I think a virtual pet/tomagotchi would be an amazing Amico exclusive. 

     

    It could be some kind of a Harvest Moon/Animal Crossing mixture with the child or even adult caring for a virtual pet in the controller as well as on screen. Maybe the pet has it's own enclosure like Seaman had (Dreamcast) and you check in every day as it grows and evolves. You could furnish the house, get toys, do mini games, etc.

     

    Every day could be tracked in real time with real seasons as you grow food for your virtual pet , train your virtual pet, expand the housing, get new furniture, items, etc. 

     

    Could potentially be some battling too. Tap your controller to take your pet into your controller, bring it to a friends, and have your pets hang out or fight each other in an arena. Maybe like Digimon/Pokemon or the old web game "Neopets." The more you train your pet at home and in your day to day errands the stronger it gets. I could see house expansions for exercise rooms, game rooms, living areas, maybe a town with shops you visit, where there are also mini games for money, the farm you grow food on, etc.

     

    This could be like a... Digimon... Animal Crossing... Tomagatchi fusion.

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  13. 9 minutes ago, Swami said:

    I first heard this conspiracy theory about buying support a couple weeks ago in the taco thread during the FE conspiracy theory, but thought it was one crazy comment. Now it seems to be something with a life of its own. I wondered what Tony was angling at with the “it’s odd so many YT critics are changing their attitude towards the Amico.” Now I see its just a part of the conspiracy theory to dismiss people liking it more as more info becomes available. It’s ridiculous the lengths some people will go to try to shore up their negative view as they see the attitude toward the Amico becoming more positive. 

    It's totally okay to dislike Amico or say "This isn't for me" but people are taking it way beyond that. They're going out of their way to make sure people know they disagree or dislike it. 

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  14. 4 minutes ago, dj_convoy said:

    Because hopefully you understand that someone who has supported this forum for a long time isn't merely naysaying Amico for the fun of it.

     

    I'm glad Amico brought you (and a number of new people) here, but there is SO MUCH more to this place than Amico. Some of us posters who have been here a long time are concerned about this forum becoming a place for advertising. Some of us are actively concerned about new, niche consoles, because we have been burned more than once. Some of us think the Amico might be a cool thing but have been turned off by the behavior of others. Obviously, some long timers are excited, and are into the possibilities the Amico offers. Some long timers here are actually WORKING on this thing, which is cool. 

     

    I think a number of you would benefit from the realization that it's OKAY if someone else doesn't dig the same things you do. As long as the questions are respectful, it's okay to disagree, or hell just flat out QUESTION things. I'm sick of long time forumites being written off for concern trolling or whatever, particularly by new folks who are here to cheerlead for a new product that they're excited about. Not everything is "trolling," not all concern is bad, and we don't need more drama or sales pitches all day long.  

    Formulated, rational discussion is not the same as crafting insults, and now literally saying that Tommy can't speak because of his title, and saying someone who is excited for a new console concept is "cheerleading." How about we call you doomleading? Doomleader! It's just a useless moniker designed to label in a disparaging way. All for defending the idea of the Amico.

     

    This verbiage is designed to dig at the person supporting an idea. It's not conducive to actual critical thinking - nor is it actually improving anything you are discussing. There is nothing wrong with disagreeing - wondering why an Amico thread has positive Amico support or discussion is another thing entirely. Furthermore, saying "I'll just be ignoring all Amico stuff again!" just doesn't add much.

     

    Once more - it does not matter how concerned you are. You have spent nothing. You have invested nothing. This is not an Indiegogo, or a Kickstarter. This has nothing in common with any of the past machines you are conflicted about and it's kind of a false comparison.

     

    If you had invested time and money into the Ouya, or the Chameleon, I could understand (money you never got back) - but bringing the same concerns here when this is not the same situation is why you come off like you are "concern trolling." If we just keep saying "Well remember bad things happen, we're just concerned bad things happen" it's doomleading. Or, I should say, it's the same as "cheerleading."

     

    Being an intelligent, well educated consumer doesn't require you interact directly with the product developer. But it's something Tommy is allowing you to do. Slamming him over and over that this is "concerning" because of past machines, or because he accepted $100 dollars from people who willingly gave it up for pre-order, like what you did, and I also started out by doing in the other thread, is useless and doesn't advance any positive, proactive discussion. I realized this quickly.

     

    We just have to hope for the best and keep asking questions and discussing and see where things end up. No one is making you spend any money on Intellivision or devote any time to any of these threads. You should not complain about what you willingly subject yourself to. 

     

    If you think there are other developers or other people you'd rather be in charge of this - by all means, believe that. But if someone coming here to talk to hardcore fans and being excited about his product comes off as too sales-pitchy, you don't have to put up with it. You have options, other threads, etc. 

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  15. 32 minutes ago, Flojomojo said:

    The CEO of the company with a thing to prove and sell is not "a regular guy like you or me." I'll go back to ignoring everything with *mico in the name, at least until there's something of substance to talk about. If you had been a long-standing member of this forum for more than one month, you might feel differently about it turning into a quasi-advertising platform. Or being told your opinions are wrong because you "just don't understand" and "don't want family fun." 
     

    I think that one cheerleading thread is more than enough. 

    Calling out someone based on title is not really useful. It's not going to get anyone anywhere if you say "I don't want the developer of this to talk to me about what he developed."

     

    The problem with calling on authority like this, is you place him on a pedestal and define him by that title. You create a now impenetrable barrier between the end user and the product developer. You've muted the person in charge of something that is being developed for an end user. That would be the most anti-consumer thing you could ask for. It's quite possibly the most opposite ideal anyone should attempt to set in the indie development market (not the big 3). 

     

    I'm not sure what the purpose was of commenting on the age of my account. It just comes off as another smug comment to invoke seniority... Which is... An appeal to authority... Which is a lot like deferring to title... Which you implied you don't support with Tommy. I'm getting a general sense of self-importance here and it also looks like you do not want new members of this forum. I won't apologize that my interest in Amico brought me here.

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  16. 1 hour ago, Flojomojo said:

    I know ... so many threads have turned into the home shopping network.
     

    I started out mildly curious, but thanks to mister hard-sell, I'm completely turned off from anything to do with it. I don't know how much money they've actually raised from investors, but the constant, desperate filibustering makes me question the judgment and competence of the whole project. 
     

    If there's to be a big reveal at E3, I'm content to wait for that, without having to see dozens of rah-rah posts every single day. 

    This may come off pretty heavy handed , but I needed to say it. I apologize for any derailment, and I DO understand this is an independent thread (supposed to be).

     

    You strike me as the same kind of person who would also be flustered and upset if there was no communication or very little communication.

     

    To lay out the series of choices you have made... You willingly come to an Amico discussion thread, in an area of this website where Tommy is very active, and expose yourself to the updates and communication deliberately... Then say "Wow, all this communication from the lead at Intellivision has really turned me off!" (again, I know this is an independent thread, but given the insults and accusations that were flying of course anyone can come in and defend themselves).

     

    It's one thing to say that, fine, but then to go further and start to question judgment and competence just because this guy's a regular person like you and I discussing his ideas and keeping folks updated every day is beyond silly. It's neither here nor there - you can take it or leave it. You can put in as much energy as you want, or as little, and you've surely invested no money in this. So what was the purpose of this comment other than to act smug?

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  17. 1 hour ago, Tommy Tallarico said:

    Here's an interesting video that was uploaded today.

    In case it's deleted, here's a record of the video.

     

    TITLE:  The Intellivision Amico is a scam. False "sold out" hype and youtubers shilling & selling the story.

     

    Description:  Tommy Talerico we know your cock is small. Quit selling junk to autistic beta male adults and work on cock enlargement.  This system is no different than the marketing scheme for Revenge of the Bird King. Take notice of which ebay seller(s) end up selling and relisting, relisting, relisting... Not sold out not limited just a marketing hype scheme. False sense of rarity and demand. Intellivision is GAY, TOMMY.



    The video itself is just some random thing they uploaded.  But the name of the video, the video description and their comments say it all.

    Given the title of the video and the timing... I wonder if this person has been a part of this thread at some point?

    This is the level we are dealing with here.

    Yeah... yeah... everyone is going to tell me to just "chill" or ignore it.  Those folks would be missing the point.  I could care less about idiotic crap like this.  And whether you believe me or not... it doesn't bother me.  I actually laugh to myself knowing how much these fools focus on Amico and me... to the point that they feel the need to do things like this.

    I only bring it up here to once again showcase the level of immaturity and hatred some people have.
     

    Have fun engaging with these folks.


     

     

    These are the people who are just unhappy in general and want to spread their negativity. They are meaningless in the long run and they will say everything is a scam and everything will fail no matter what it is.

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