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Points taken guys. I concede that a lot of what I wrote, is not concrete, just observations. I'll stay out of it unless I've got some fresh evidence-backed insight.

I have an another insight into K's rather troubling obsession with Octavius. None of his jibes against her stand up to scrutiny, and no sane person would back them, what with his backwards views on women which appear to emanate from the 17th Century. This is about the fact that Octavius has experience as an actor, and a look at why K and the anti-Octavius accounts use that to smear her. Let's remind ourselves of that paragraph in that multi-page 'It wasn't me honest it was fifteen people from the retrogaming community conspiring against me using facts and evidence' grief-warble... And a special someone close to K, who he thanked at the end of his machiavellian masterpiece... Now, Paul Andrews is based in Luton, as is K. He is the publisher of K's rather questionable ebooks and physical books, through his business Andrews UK, apparently "the UK's leading independent publisher" (I think Lulu.com might have something to say about that claim). I'm from a ZX Spectrum background. (Yeah, I know all I've contributed so far to AtariAge is writing in this thread, but I do cover Atari platforms on my YouTube channel and am going to be covering the Atari 800 version of Feud in the near future.) A lot of people know Paul Andrews as the man who invested heavily into the ZX Vega+ project, that hand-held Spectrum emulator that went disastrously wrong as the other senior players - David Levy and Suzanne Martin - severely ripped off the crowdfunders and only delivered the terrible effort to a tiny fraction of its backers. The story is quite well-known even outside of ZX Spectrum circles. I never backed the thing, but had huge sympathy for Paul Andrews's plight and an extreme distaste for what Levy and Martin did to the retrogaming scene. Apparently, Paul Andrews nearly lost his home and he faced a lot of internet trolling, attacking him and his disabled wife. Whatever I say about Paul Andrews (which won't be flattering as you read on), I still have immense respect for him standing up to the con merchants in this debacle. He was the good guy in that incident, unquestionably. I joined one of the ZX Vega+ groups on Facebook trying to keep tabs on what was happening. It was primarily managed by Andrews, with a lot of immense support from George Cropper, who issued videos ridiculing Levy/Martin. These days, Paul Andrews's reputation (and I know this is subjective) is less than glowing in the eyes of many, with the Horace saga which primarily attacked Octav1us and Retro Princess. As a businessman with lots of projects aimed at retrogaming fans (like the dubious TheC64 mini), Paul Andrews has apparently bought a lot of IP rights to retrogaming icons and brands, such as "Sinclair Spectrum", "Jupiter Ace", "Manic Miner", "Jet Set Willy", "A500", etc. I say 'apparently' because as you may notice, the sprites of Manic Miner and Jet Set Willy that his company Subvert Ltd bought, are definitely not authentic. In October, #Horacegate kicked off as Paul Andrews claimed to own the rights to that character (a glance at the UK Trademarks database does not depict that scenario) and did not want Retro Princess making plush toys of that character and he issued copyright strikes against Octav1us's YouTube channel, as she had been using Horace as a comic foil in some of her videos, usually depicting Horace as an obsessive fan, spewing out unrequited love to her. Now, Paul Andrews was successful in issuing two copyright strikes on the Octav1us channel, and we know what happens with the third one. It was a dumb move of his, especially as copyright doesn't really conflate with trade mark. (Especially a trade mark that he has never been fully proven to own.) Paul Andrews issued this statement on his reasoning... A lot of questionable claims there. Especially expressing distaste at the 'sexualisation' of Horace. It had been pointed out that George Cropper covered the three ZX Spectrum Horace games on his YouTube channel years before, using very jaw-dropping sexual language, including sexual assault, for laughs, a far cry from Octav1us's portrayal of Horace as a love-struck loser. "Okay Pete, loads of us know this story, what's the new stuff you're bringing to the table?" you may say. In the ZX Vega+ Facebook at the time (specifically 17th-19th October), Paul Andrews was being challenged on why he had used his somewhat questionable ownership of Horace to go after an innocent retrogamer and it was pointed out that his stance was doing him no good. Indeed, many on the retrogaming scene vowed never to touch his products again. Related services, like Anstream Arcade (of which there is an indirect connection with Andrews), were cited as boycott targets. In his responses to me on that Facebook group (which I was kicked out of on 19th October), he continually pointed out that Octav1us was making a lot of money from Patreon, dressed sexily and that she had experience in acting. He got very personal and aggressive about this, repeatedly. I didn't like the portrayal of her as some profiteering 'tits4clicks' YouTuber using thespian skills to milk a Patreon fanbase, this was a truly dark side I was seeing from Paul Andrews. Gone was the nice tone from his time battling it out for Vega+ backers, he was getting very heavy on the Horacegate situation and I saw his comments against her as being rather derogatory. As a stage performer myself (I make no claim to being a proper actor, but I've played characters in comic performances from pubs and clubs to theatres, radio and TV) and as someone who has been through PTSD (as well as knowing other survivors), I rightly told him what an absolute crock of absurdities he was spewing. I'd previously been very supportive of the guy, but I couldn't stand for this, it was a hate campaign. Not many others in that group went against the grain, but sod it. I know what it's like to be incredibly nervous and then just go out in front of an audience portraying strong confidence as an act, practically every stand-up has been through this (and the fake confidence soon becomes real). People with social anxieties and MH issues tend to mask their despair even from close friends and family (as the recent report of a tragedy involving a UK celebrity taking her own life, shows). The biggest irony of this, is that Paul Andrews himself is an actor, check his iMDB profile that lists him in five movies. The hypocrisy is staggering and I told him so on that group. I think that was the catalyst that got me kicked out. Now I don't personally know Octavius/Sarah. I've been in the same room as her one evening in Cambridge and saw she was rather nervous with people she didn't know and was only comfortable around friends. I respectfully kept my distance. (On the stand-up circuit, I've had a few strangers come up to me with praise, which really throws me as it's not like I'm at the Michael McIntyre level of fame/success/aptitude, and I've also had a couple of nasty stalkers, so I can kind of relate.) I've spoken to her once, and that was post-Digitiser-the-Live-Show last year, keeping it very brief, saying that I loved her work. I think I came across as a jittery fanboy. Anyway, I've never liked bullies and the #Horacegate saga really was, in my eyes, the bullying of two vulnerable women on the retrogaming scene. I feel misogyny and jealousy had a big part to play in that. I've always stood up to bullies, I've defended targets of it, some times getting myself in the firing line for some of that abuse. Unsurprisingly, some of that troll network went into overdrive about "white knights" and "SJWs", terms that arseholes use to denigrate those who make a stand against bullying. And, how hilarious that there was some inference that I was only doing it in order to get into a relationship with Octav1us. (I do have the self-awareness to realise that I'm a balding middle-aged gargoyle and the age gap is nearly as wide as the hole in K's credibility.) In all honesty, I'd have done the same had Octavius been a man. And that's the funny thing, Paul Andrews, his author friend and that network of trolls primarily went after vulnerable women. The 'gamer girl' trope being used to smear Octav1us. She's an actress, therefore she's a faker! She's in tight shiny catsuits, practically a porn star! Don't believe her MH woes, it's all fake!... ugh, despicable bollocks. Prior to #Horacegate, a lot of that troll network have many many statements that go after David Levy and Suzanne Martin, the crooks in that Vega+ scandal, as well as World Of Spectrum's Lee Fogarty (who did a lot of work for the Levy/Martin side of things). And while I can't really shed a tear when those con-merchants were getting slated (although the really personal attacks just came across as bitter and immature), it's pretty obvious the trolls have been quite heavily pro-Paul-Andrews. Now, turning to that recent 15-page toilet roll issued by K, specifically the bit that channels Miles Cholmonley-Warner... That does remind me of being on that Facebook group, where Paul Andrews got very personal about Octavius. These 'reasons' are also cited by the troll network. To conclude, I have in mind, three theories... 1) K's obnoxious attitude to Octavius's success has been influence on Paul Andrews? 2) Vice versa, Paul Andrews's obnoxious attitude to Octavius's success has been influence on K? 3) A bit of both, they've come up with this style of attack between themselves? Now I cannot say which one is true, or indeed if any are true. Yet I do recall a very vindictive portrayal of Octavius in that FB group (which she was not a member of). I never saw K there, but then, K had blocked me on Twitter and Facebook quite a while before, for having taken the piss out of his ridiculous claim to have written the (non-existent) Steve Davis Snooker 128K for the ZX Spectrum at the age of 7, on this very forum. Paul Andrews has also blocked me, to nobody's surprise. I don't like citing these personal attacks into the public arena, especially as Octavius is a reader and participant in this thread and I'm not saying I've got the conclusive 'smoking gun', but I've written this rather lengthy post to help join a few dots here and there. At the time, I was convinced George Cropper - being pretty pro-Paul-Andrews - was behind a lot of that troll network. I had it down as either being him or K, perhaps both. I cited that to him on the Vega+ FB group, and he let rip into K's work, saying how he opposed it. With the hindsight we've all gained this month from K's clumsy change of a profile picture on his Google account that ended up exposing his sock puppets, of course I, along with many others, have directly apologised to George Cropper. I'm still not exactly his cheerleader, I don't like the tone of his personal attacks (even when the targets are the despicable Levy/Martin brigade) or his liberal use of "spastic" as an insult (and yes, I know George is physically handicapped, it still rubs me up the wrong way). But I acknowledge George Cropper played a blinder with his two videos on K, he nailed it. He was not behind the troll network. Some of the troll Twitter accounts are still online and if you know how to use Twitter's advanced search on specific usernames (For example, from:reheatedpixels "Out Run" will bring up all tweets from me that use the term Out Run), then you can discover some of the rather favourable-to-Paul-Andrews material that has been tweeted. A not-entirely-complete list of the Twitter troll names... iRetro2017 NickRoperRIP JoeMilano1980 beast66618 jansaggiori dave_jatt TopTwatGaminMan ShillerSimon ArseBiscuits10 Pres_JackTunney RCL_FAN_CLUB thezxkingpin pressedontowel r99152907 GrandadSpectrum joystick_engage retrogamerssuck I reiterate that I have no actual proof that Paul Andrews is involved in the trolling, but I did witness him being very outspoken about Octavius, on Facebook. K has his books published by Paul Andrews. K has seemed, in my eyes, to be very favourable to Paul Andrews.

Speaking of which, [url=https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/profile/amzn1.account.AHISQUH5BKSHPV7JZCNON53WOUMA/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_gw_btm?ie=UTF8]the Amazon reviews from 'Retro Girl'[/url]... ...which as you mention, feature overwhelmingly positive reviews for those books, only have the 'Verified Purchase' for things that aren't those books, like Cards Against Humanity, some salsa from Tenerife, etc. It's the very thing the Luton Liar has condemned you for... Still, if Amazon needs one thing, it's a line by all the Luton Liar's books, that states People who enjoyed this book also liked the work of these people:

The 'nudge nudge wink wink' inferring that those with more than one Twitter account are up to some sock-puppetting tricks is quite a nice theory. I wonder who else that theory could extend to?

I was diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome within 3 months of visiting my first AND ONLY consultant on the NHS. "Autism" and "Asperger's" are definitely NOT interchangeable terms. Asperger's is a part of autism, but it is not autism as a whole. The same way the terms "fruit" and "banana" can't be considered pure synonyms. Congratulations on the supersleuthing on discovering that I run an account called Reheated Pixels. I have absolutely no idea how I got caught out there... Not sure how I could be 'West Midlands Comedy' though. I'm from the east midlands. That account hasn't tweeted since 2011 and has never touched on anything to do with retrogaming. My first gig in any of the west midlands counties was in 2015. "Unless they have somehow put a root kit on your computer, which you would probably know about if you have virus software installed, there is no way they could trace your I.P. address through Twitter, YouTube or Facebook." - Alex Delany of the - apparently - 'highly respected I.T. experts' Optima Computer Consultants Ltd. ABSOLUTE BOLLOCKS. Totally humongous claptrap. It's quite easy to set an IP trap through social media platforms and forums. It can be done through Twitter and Facebook, very much so. Those two are probably the most common platforms for it! And I love the laughable claim that "virus software" can definitely spot root kits. Oh, I wish! The absolute worst is page 8, which is simply vile misogynist abuse aimed at a vulnerable woman. Really nasty personal abuse. It's truly disgusting. And the rest of it, is a load of nit-picking that doesn't really go anywhere (the 'rebuke' against Mr Biffo is laughable). I wouldn't even call it semantics, because even arguments based on that, are at least rooted in some truth. It's just 15 pages of pompous denials. Just about every page can be read as "Well you said I did that thing but I can say for sure that I did not do that thing so you are a liar and that is the end of that and I think I won that one thank you very much I am proven right, just goes to show that you should be ashamed of yourself".

Contacting people's workplaces is a bit of a rum do. It's very high stakes gambling, the complaint have to be 100% watertight against its target (ie. directly related to their work, not baseless accusations). Saw it happen a while ago with a vicious ex-husband who filed in a complaint against a colleague. In this GDPR age, well, she obtained the phone call recording from HR (they HAVE to supply it on request) and used it to not just get a caution issued by the police, it was the sole basis to successfully file a restraining order. If Mr Kizza thinks it's a way of getting round the Malicious Communications Act 1988, (as one of my aforementioned trolls did some time ago) he'd be very much mistaken, as it covers communication about you, sent to your workplace - specifically section 1 (1): "...cause distress or anxiety to the recipient or to any other person to whom he intends that it or its contents or nature should be communicated". Also, in the UK, employers of all sizes have to adhere to the HSE's Duty Of Care principles, which covers harassment, either internal or external.

Since mentioning the Patreon account of a certain Luton-based retrogamer on this thread using the intellectual property (back issue archive of Sinclair User) of Bauer Media, a certain post on that Patreon account is now deleted. Today on Twitter, I noticed that trolling Twitter account @ZXPoppySinclair had become active again, making a new post. An account which is primarily targeted at a certain prolific female retrogaming YouTuber with well-known MH issues. I tweeted that it was a very stupid move for this trolling account to become active, what with the very intense scrutiny of You Know Who, who I would say is definitely behind it. It is now no longer active again. It had been using the user label 'ZXFlouexetine'. Flouextine is a strong anti-depressant, used to treat major depressive disorder. Anyway, here's yesterday's public statement from Octav1us's FB page, which has an interesting line about anti-depressants. It is an exercise for the reader to work out what has been going on, I won't patronise you. Somewhere in the south of Bedfordshire, you can hear a sphincter becoming very very tight indeed.

That can backfire very very heavily. Especially if you claim to be a social media co-ordinator for a major household brand. Oh, the hubris of those who thought they were untouchable...

Do bear in mind, that police officers HATE being drawn into social media spats. Over the past few years as social media has become so prolific in everyday life, police are called out regularly over petty arguments on Facebook. When they get a report that there's something kicking off on social media or forums, they take a dim view of it. (I had someone off the comedy circuit report me to the police because I expressed my sincere view on Twitter, that psychics are frauds, the police were not interested in the complaint.) Now, I know this is NOT a petty argument. Business relationships have been severely damaged (and are only just repairing) because of Kieren Hawken. At least two female gamers with social anxiety issues have been viciously targeted, too. What I'm trying to say is, if the police do contact anyone off this forum - and I know this is going to sound patronising but I speak from experience - just get straight to the point about Kieren's breaking of the law. Honestly, there's no need to bring in his factual inaccuracies on Atari hardware or the (admittedly hilarious) 'Steve Davis Snooker 128K' boasts. And to instigate copyright action would be a civil dispute, not for the officers on the beat, although it is still legitimate to bring in any evidence of Kieren ripping you off. Whatever you've got on Kieren, make it concise, keep it as factual as possible, don't go heavily into 'story mode'. Remember, the police will take action if you can demonstrate him causing anxiety and/or distress. Start with the worst of his attacks. Keep in mind that he will portray you lot as the big nasty bullies, the ones who have driven him to despair. You've got a limited amount of time to demonstrate to a complete stranger, who has no skin in the game on Atari (let alone retrogaming), that Kieren Hawken is an abusive liar. You can cite the troll accounts, he will of course deny being behind them. Once there's a big enough picture built of his motivation, his dishonesty and his trolling, there's a case for the troll accounts to be investigated. If you're not acquainted with the Malicious Communications Act 1988, get reading it. If it's true, tell the police you've been targeted by his troll accounts and it caused major concern to you. If enough people cite those troll accounts (especially the one that brought up the specific anti-depressant medication one gamer previously confided to Kieren that she took), there will be justification for every computing device in his household to be forensically examined. Thankfully, the police do take into account the overall perception of a person within their online community. This week has seen Kieren Hawken absolutely condemned from many different corners of retrogaming, from people who don't always see eye to eye. This forum thread has been a major catalyst (although, it was a bit waffly in the first few pages); George Cropper's Wotsit video was where the dam burst, and the absolute pinnacle in my eyes, is Chris Wilkins's Facebook post with 300+ comments that utterly annihilate the self-proclaimed Laird (a lot of eye-witness accounts of him being abusive at events). More credibility comes from Mr Biffo's Digitiser article on how he was duped by Kieren, and the recent Facebook post from Octav1us that outlines specific abuse from Kieren aimed at her. My life was turned almost upside-down two years ago when a real-life acquaintance - formerly a friend - on the comedy circuit heavily turned on me, all because I could not guarantee her a performance spot at one of my comedy nights. She went full-on troll mode against me, claiming I was trying to censor her, trying to lose her work, stalking her, etc, etc. All bollocks. And my inbox filled up with anecdotes from other comedians on how this woman had caused massive drama for other people, including the abuse of promoters, comedians and even audience members in the past. She was certainly not - how do I say this kindly? - thinking straight. A trawl through her past social media brought up specific posts where she literally wanted a physical fight against a female reviewer who gave her a bad write-up; vandalism of comedy night posters; lots of other threats to comedians. I screengrabbed it all, but never brought it to police attention, because she was clearly not mentally well and I genuinely had sympathy for her MH battles (still do). She was the one who went to the police against me, but it all backfired for her when the police saw my 41-page dossier of screengrabs, getting her a severe reprimand. It's not an episode I want to relive, but I learnt a lot from how the police view social media 'battles' from that incident and how to deal with someone in a scene dragging your name through the mud, in defiance of reality. Anyway, enough waffle from me. Here's hoping the healing goes as smoothly as possible.

Kieren, this is an open letter to you, about the very deep and real trouble you are going to have with the police and legal authorities. A couple of years ago on Facebook, I saw that a comedian had spent the previous evening writing sick and racist jokes. He'd been mocking Muslims, he even took the mick out of the Hillsborough dead and even the people killed in the Manchester Arena terrorist bombing. A huge amount of comments from others on the circuit were, obviously, very condemning of him. Personal friends of mine from the circuit, warning him to stop this tirade of abuse. Some cancelling their gigs with him. I took screenshots of this bizarre outpouring of hate, and put it on my blog, just in case the vile 'comedian' turned his post private or deleted it. It'd serve as a warning to anyone who thought of booking him. None of the screenshots were faked, I just wrote a small paragraph naming him and warning readers that the content will of course be offensive. Last year, that 'comedian' contacted me with a legal threat, telling me to take down the screenshots. He was in the middle of studying for a law degree, so he could become a lawyer (this bit is actually true, as strange as it sounds, I've had friends confirm this, to my amazement). He said he'd use his legal prowess to sue me for having made such screenshots, as I was damaging his career. I didn't respond to him. I actually relished the idea of him trying to find anyone to take such a case on. After all, any sane person, could see that the only person who damaged his career, was himself. He wrote that disgusting content, I was merely quoting it. To this day, I have never heard anything back and the blog still exists online. His threat can be summarised as 'don't show everyone what an awful person I am'. And this is what you're trying to do with this forum, isn't it? Did you really report this thread to your local police force? I know narcissism is your defining streak, and your arrogance and vanity is off the scale, but are you seriously bringing YOUR ABUSE to the ATTENTION OF YOUR LOCAL POLICE? And your sole argument is that you're being criticised here? Do you actually think they're gonna side with you? To bring up a more famous case, let's go back to 1997. In the Bristol branch of PC World, like any other day, a technician is given a customer's PC to repair. Realising who the customer was - a musician who was a bit of a joke of a celebrity but had genuine fame in the 1970s - the technician did something that he was not authorised to do. He broke PC World's own rules, to have a look at the guy's personal files. Did this technician commit a crime? It could be argued he did, but that's just nothing compared to what he found on the hard drive, and those with knowledge of this case already know who I am referring to. No, for the record, I am NOT comparing your misdeeds to that of an actual nonce. However, you have broken the law several times and it's detailed in this thread. The England and Wales law I'd say you have broken the most, is the Malicious Communications Act 1988 - specifically section 1 (1)a and b. Then there are the copyright issues. Now, yes, it was at least mitigating to have closed down your Laird's Lair YouTube account, your Laird's Lair FB page and your @RetroLaird Twitter account. However, right now, your Patreon page is still live and it's actively selling intellectual property you don't own, for your personal profit. One such posting has you pay-gating a mass of content belonging to a major magazine/radio giant, Bauer Media. I have warned you about this in the past, you blocked me. I know why you're going to fail because I've had it in the past from a forum troll. About ten years ago, for the first time in my life, I had police on my doorstep, telling me that I've been abusive online to an autistic man via a forum I ran. The extent of this guy's complaint was that he was being ridiculed on my forum by users - which was true. I was still picking my jaw off the floor because I was astonished he would get the police involved. But there was something odd about him. He had turned up to a real life 'meet forum members' meeting a few months earlier and acted rather strangely, shouting at the top of the voice on subjects we agreed on, as if we were disagreeing with him. We eventually blocked him, he was a massive nuisance on the forum. I later found out he had some learning difficulties and was also very far on the autism spectrum. I can kind of empathise as I'm also autistic. However, whatever condition he had, did not negate the fact that he had spent a week after his blocking, registering multiple accounts to write that "PETER IS A NAZI"; "PETER IS A CHILD MOLESTER" and other slurs. He also mocked up images of him shooting guns at photos of forum members. The abuse was relentless, but thankfully, being a web developer at the time, I rewrote the forum software to notify me of his specific IP address and that was pretty effective at keeping him quiet. I was still astonished that such a guy would get the police involved and here they were in my house. Still, it gave me my chance to show them what he'd been up to. To say they were surprised was an understatement. Were it not for his severe neurological condition, he would have been charged and facing court. As it was, he had to give an undertaking to never visit my sites and never contact me again. I learnt a lot about how the police deal with online abuse that day. I've learnt quite a bit more from a friend who has worked with a charity that tracks down online abusers. Shall I give an outline of how - if that screenshot of your complaint really is true - your police complaints are going to go down? It's already been said that your forum rules are not equivalent to the laws of England and Wales, nor do they override them. Yes, people are taking screenshots of your abusive language, and you could try your hardest to say it's some kind of GDPR or privacy violation, but here's how this goes... The police officers you speak to, they won't care for the nuances of this particular fandom. Chances are, they're pretty young and their concept of retrogaming is playing a four-years-out-of-date copy of FIFA. They may be vaguely aware of Sonic and Mario. Ultimately, they're not here for a discussion on retrogaming itself, their job is to see if crimes have been committed. They have to see both sides of the story. And I really really am playing Devil's Advocate for you here, Kieren. I can't imagine myself in your situation, because, although I'm no angel, I've never been that stupid or egotistical enough to find myself in a situation like yours. A situation where Chris Wilkins, Craig Turner and others are openly discussing the possibility of suing you. Your representation to the police is that we're all a nasty bunch of bullies, intent on ruining your career, making you jobless. If it hasn't happened already, you'll be asked to make a statement on that. And for the identities of people who you believe to be committing these crimes against you. That's all the police care about - WHO HAS COMMITTED A CRIME HERE? Not the 'he said/she said' war of words. If/when the police talk to these people, they put their side of the story to you. And we both know that's going to include a lot of screenshots of your abuse. And despite your protestations, that is still admissible in their statements. To moan about people taking screenshots of your abuse, is like a car thief trying to claim copyright of his face when the car owner sends the dashcam footage to the police. YOU. ARE. SCREWED. And here's what you may probably do. "I didn't do that, that's someone else" is what I think you may say. That you're not @Arsebiscuits10, @dave_jatt, @GrandadSpectrum, etc on Twitter. And to be fair, I don't think ALL of those suspiciously pro-Paul-Andrews are you. I think a LOT of them are you, but I do think some of the others are probably someone else in your hometown. But by this point, the game is up already. The police will challenge you, on if you'd like to go further with your complaint, or abandon it all together. Choose the latter and it's clear to them you're a lying fantasist. And that's actually the least worst option at this point. Choose to go further, and I am 99% certain you will be interviewed under threat of caution. The interview will be recorded. You will be asked if you are the author of the abuse coming from various anonymous accounts. Stuff like this sent to Octavius last year, for example... And yeah, you've probably lined up excuses. The old 'I was hacked' line has been tried by Ian Botham and Rebekah Vardy, but it's never convinced anyone. You could still pretend it's just anonymous outsiders, nothing to do with you, you don't know who you are. As you'll be on the record, you'll be warned that the police will quickly obtain powers to forensically investigate every computing device in your house. That's everything, seized, digitally copied to a police-owned device. Good luck explaining to the rest of your family what's going on there. This happens if ANY of the counter-complaints suggest you are behind the abuse. There's a LOT linking those very pro-Paul-Andrews messages to yourself and remember it's 'reasonable suspicion' from the police. Even if nothing is found on your computers, tablets, smartphones, your ISP(s) can still be brought into this. And this goes beyond digital. Having read Octavius's statement yesterday, with details of how you spread malicious gossip which resulted in lost professional work for people, you're already way deep in the brown stuff. Am I still playing Devil's Advocate? I really don't want to, but if, and a really really really HUGE IF, in that mad parallel universe where I'm just as much of a narcissistic bullying digital jackdaw like you, right now I would be legally changing my name by deed poll. I'd be drastically altering my appearance. I'd never show up at a retrogaming event again. I'd never write a thing again on retrogaming. I sure as hell would not be bringing my abuse to the attention of my local police force. Why do you still bother?

It's not the latter. Kieren Hawken has closed down his account. "...the uploader has closed their YouTube account"