Defunkt

Completely agree. Myself and a couple of others have already said the useful information should be put on a dedicated set of web pages. This thread has turned into a "Vince apologies" thread. The people who are picking the bones out of his books for mistakes might think they are being helpful but they most certainly are not. When you go down that road it looks like school playtime to outsiders like myself. Somebody needs to get a handle on this because about 90% of this thread is now complete rubbish, off-topic and/or childish. Anything productive has been diluted to water by a few people who can't seem to stop typing their unhelpful nonsense. This thread needs a huge purge of unhelpful posts or a dedicated site put up where the crux of this matter can be archived. I most certainly wont mind if you have to remove this post if it helps in cleaning things up.

I disagree. I'm one of the people that follow some of the Youtubers involved. I had no idea what was going on until directed here. Trying to read through this thread is gruelling and would test the stamina of an Olympian. It's really helpful that the 1st comment is updated to contain the important parts but i agree with Buffalo Bill Burger. A concise documenting is needed. A massive forum post isn't doing this justice. And like Bill said a lot of it can come across as "he said she said" I was one of the unfortunate people who backed the ZX Vega+ and if you Google that now the #1 result is the website that conclusively exposed their lies I found that site extremely helpful and will always be grateful to all the contributors and of course especially to George. I understand members and staff here would like to keep the expose of Kieren onsite here but if you REALLY want what's best (and a proper downfall) then someone should consider a similar approach. A simple site dedicated to detailing and exposing the facts about this appalling person in a concisive way. A site that can serve as a warning to others. A proper hub. When people type "Kieren Hawken" in Google you get Amazon and IMDB links! This forum thread will never get #1 on Google because most of you won't even use his name here. Make it easy for people to discover the truth about Kieren Hawken.