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5 hours ago, alex_79 said:Another try...
Woooww! I will burn an Eprom just now to test it!!!! Thanks again!!!
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17 hours ago, ChildOfCv said:"Works" and "Correct" are not necessarily the same thing. From Fairchild's TTL design notes:
Hi friend. Once more thanks for replying. I know and I understand you are right about the TTL information you told us so I'm going to change my answer. What I meant is that this cartridge has been running Atari games for the past 37 years without ever failing. Which means that for this purpose, at least, this circuit works correctly in the way it is designed even if it is a weird thing.
I have another older PCB whose design is also like this with these floating pins.
But now you advised us about the question, I found a lot of other circuits here that matches exactly as you sayd! It haves the pin 4 and 5 conected together !
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8 hours ago, ClausB said:It's interesting to see the economical construction and design of these Brazilian carts you've shown us in this and other threads. Most have no plated-through holes, no gold plating, no solder mask. They use minimalist circuits in strange and clever ways, often with patched game code. It brings to mind a cottage industry with limited resources but with some smart people.
Do you (or some other friend here) understand something to tell me about the Kankaroo cart I placed at the beginning of this post????
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4 hours ago, alex_79 said:Very interesting, thanks for sharing!
That one with the touch switches is really cool! Never seen a 2600 cart like that.
Here there were several like this !!
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8 hours ago, ClausB said:It's interesting to see the economical construction and design of these Brazilian carts you've shown us in this and other threads. Most have no plated-through holes, no gold plating, no solder mask. They use minimalist circuits in strange and clever ways, often with patched game code. It brings to mind a cottage industry with limited resources but with some smart people.
You are absolutely correct!
Everything you just said, accurately describes the Brazilian computer industry in the 70s and 80s! Very few resources, little money and a lot of creativity, intelligence and cleverness!
Here we have a famous saying: "A necessidade é mãe da solução" that means something like "Needing is the mother of the solution!"!
Nowadays we have better resources than in those days, but unfortunately it is expensive when compared to countries like USA, Canada, Japan and part of Europe. -
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" DIGITAL " Game Selection!!!
Another strange to me Dynacom 2 in 1 2K games.
That cart haves an Eprom and one more IC. Both of them were sanded and is impossible to see the chip numbers to identify it!!
Two electrolytic capacitors 1000uF x 10v and 220uF x 10v.
The games are Freeway and Skiing (both from Dynacom).
The game you want to play is selected by touching the metallic contacts (red pointed in the pic I take)
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45 minutes ago, ChildOfCv said:Pin 4 of U2 needs to be connected to something. Floating inputs are not reliable. Should probably be connected to pin 5, or to VCC. Makes me wonder how this board ever worked, since the connections are confirmed after removing the ICs.
Hi friend. Thanks for replying!!!
That circuit has been working perfect for the last 37 years exactly as described in the schematics drawn by alex_79.😄 -
AMMMMAAAAAAZING GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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4 hours ago, Thomas Jentzsch said:The Tapper conversion runs in the coming Stella 6.3 if you manually select UA bankswitching.
The problem seems to be the "bit $c6c6" code executed in RAM. The attached ROM should fix it.
Hi friend. Unfortunately the rom converted still not works. But now the issue is changed if compared to alex 79 version.
Now it remains in an Eternal looping trying to start.
Attached video is the present issue and the picture is the alex_79 version. Both still not working yet.
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3 hours ago, Thomas Jentzsch said:The Tapper conversion runs in the coming Stella 6.3 if you manually select UA bankswitching.
The problem seems to be the "bit $c6c6" code executed in RAM. The attached ROM should fix it.
I Will Burn an eprom just now and test it!! Will post the results here!
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I own a Dynacom
8k Kangaroo cart that I think is a curious thing.
It haves two eproms. What is the reason for that?? Why two ones?
All ICs numbers (even the logics) were sanded and is impossible to me to know more.
I have others Kangaaroo carts that uses only one eprom.
Would be exactlly a half of code on each of them? I yes, why?
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3 hours ago, alex_79 said:Here are some modified roms for Centipede, Tapper, Beamrider, Galaxian and Pengo:
fa0_conversions.zip
These should work with your board.alex_79 my friend!!! You are a Genious!!!!Tapper is the only one rom that does not works!!! All the others appears to works GREAT!!!!
I converted my board to use a 27C256 and now it supports four 8K games! As you can see in the pics I sent it is working perfect thanks to you!!!
Now I have two identical boards that fits four 8K games each.
I think you've already helped me a lot!
I sent you a private message to thank you once more.-
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12 minutes ago, Thomas Jentzsch said:6.3 is not released yet and it may take some time.
Very Thanks for replying!
Where is the official place to download the latest versions?
How to donate living in another country? I have interesting in donate if I can.PS. I think I found the place and the way!
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On 9/6/2020 at 6:53 AM, Thomas Jentzsch said:How does one switch between the two games?
YES! But this board can easily be converted to four games by adding one more switch. To tell you the truth I do own another identical board with one more switch that runs four 8K games
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50 minutes ago, alex_79 said:Here are some modified roms for Centipede, Tapper, Beamrider, Galaxian and Pengo:
fa0_conversions.zip
These should work with your board.WOWWWWW!!! I Will try it just NOW!!!!!
As I promissed I removed the logics ICs from the board and did a Picture for you. !
Once more I HAVE NO WORDS to thankyour attention with me!!!!-
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Digikey is very very expensive way to get parts!!!
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Unfortunatelly I think that MK4027N will not work. Maybe with some changes in the circuit but I am not sure.
Please read the post I sent.
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2 hours ago, Thomas Jentzsch said:If you split the 16K ROM into two 8K ROMs, they will work with the next Stella release (6.3).
Here are some screenshots.
MBM27128-30 H.E.R.O. (Mania).bin 8 kB · 2 downloads MBM27128-30 Kung-Fu Master (Irem Activision).bin 8 kB · 2 downloads
Very very cool!!! Where to download the latest Stella's version ??
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Once more very thanks!! I want too much to get a way to make a BeanRider cart.
I had a cartridge like that when I was a kid. It had BeamRaider, Tapper, Galaxian and Pengo and was my favorite cart but when I was 17 years old, I gave it to a friend! He promissed to return it to me when I asked for it back.
I really regretted it cause he says that lost my cart and I really want to play these games again with my daughter. Here in Brazil, unfortunately any cartridge (even a pirate) that has this game (BeamRaider) is very expensive !! There are many modified BeamRaider cartridges here to sell. I saw an advertisement for one of the same brand as that was mine that is the same brand I posted here (but with four games inside. It haves two switches and I do own a cart like that here with others 8k games. The circuit is identical but with one more switch. I tested and the any rom from two carts works on any of both circuits. Does anyone here have in their collection a BeamRaider rom extracted from some cheap cartridge that works on my circuit? Or does any friend here know how to modify my circuit to work with the original rom?
Thanks again!!!
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I bet on a PPU issue too.
Do you have the schematics to show us?
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3 hours ago, TopJimmy said:does anyone know what chips i could use as replacements for a gen 1 ram? the existing chips are labelled 33-9023-00 F 7714. thanks
Hi friend. I don't know if it could help you but please take a look here

Curious and weirds Atari 2600 carts.
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Posted · Edited by pcrock
Hi friend, thanks again.
Please tell me what you think.
As you can see in the pics I attached, this Board is locked at this time to run two 4K games but it is designed to run till four 4K games. It will works without any inverter with a 27128 ???
The red pointed places in the pics below is the switches to select the games.