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Ricardo Cividanes da Silva

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  1. Posted

    I think Atari simply made a mistake with 5200. That was simple to launch 5200 with Pac Man cart, like Coleco made with Donkey Kong, seizing the opportunity. Pac Man was not totally burned  in 1982 and was able to compete with ColecoVision and Intellivision, but...BreakOut???
    The Atari 5200 was launched ahead of time.

  2. Posted

    I believe, after reading all answers, what Atari 5200, isn't failed. It did not live up to Atari's expectations. And Atari is focused in 2600. Unfortunately the videgames crash prevented us from knowing what that competition would be like.

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  5. Posted

    I believe what Nintendo politics of exclusivity with game developers were the problem for Atari. The NES stayed with better games and Atari didn't have the same administrative capacity of SEGA and his Mega Drive for example.

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    I didn't know about the Atari 600. Even if not sold in the same stores  in 1983/84 the parents saw. The crash proves this. The Commodore war prices threw lights on computers. Atari produced the same games in carts with different pins, an hour someone would realize.
    And the puzzle about Atari 5200 history starts to make sense.

    It is not a bad system, but yes, a system in wrong time.

  9. Posted

    3 minutes ago, mr_me said:

    Failure is a matter of opinion.  If colecovision made coleco lots of money they might not consider it a failure.  If telegames sold colecovision compatible systems in 1986/87, does that make it a success.

     

    Atari didn't want to be number two in the market so they might have considered the 5200 a failure.

    Yes. I read a Nolan Bushnell interview about your first game, Computer Space. He said, for him, Computer Space had a sucess, but, for Nutting was a fail. Everithing is a question about expectations. So, Atari 5200, can be a case like this.He sad

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  11. Posted

    Really, failure can be a strong term, but the Atari 5200 suffered front your competitors, it's clear.
    Other thing. Atari 5200 were, basically, a Atari 400/800 computer, right?  So, why someone buy a Atari 5200 if they had a Atari 400/800 with the same games? The Atari marketing didn't see the obvious and this fact caused low sales. They not positioned console correctly in the market.

     

    @MrTrust you has reason. I thing it was a little bit of all of that.

     

    @edladdin you has a 5200, right?  How were they the controllers? As I understood you it had fun without any problems with controls. Here in Brazil we don´t  had access to Atari 5200 and I saw it many years late.

     

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  12. Posted

    4 minutes ago, zzip said:

    Basically, it was a bad year for video games when it released.   The crash was just beginning.   There were several systems released in 1982, (Colecovision, Vectrex), all failed and left the market within a couple of years.

     

    Instead of trying to turn things around when the market improved, Atari seemed to panick and decided the tech was the problem, and announced the 7800 two years later, and cancelled the 5200 around the same time.  This obviously angered existing 5200 owners.

    It´s true. Atari forgot what sell a video game: The games! They  focused in more and more technology and bits and new version of same games and forgot the main.

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    11 minutes ago, Goochman said:

    There was alot of hype for "System X" before Atari released the 5200.  When it came out the price was prohibitive, the joysticks were unreliable and not easy to use like the 2600, the "new" games were rehases of the  800 computer, the packin was terrible and finally parents complained that it didnt work with their existing 2600 carts they invested in (ie, I have to buy another version of pacman?).

     

    It was a 1/2 arsed effort and the public reacted accordingly.

     

    The 5200 joystick wouldve been a good choice if it worked well for 95% of the games people played back then.  Offer a "paddle stick" as an option like the 2600 had other controllers.  Atari also needed to come out with new games which showcased the better graphics and sound the 5200 brought.  

     

    Woulda/coulda/shoulda - Atari did not.

    It gives the impression that the system has not been tested. They simply put the Atari 800 in another box and sold it under another name without worrying about the "details".  The Atari administration thought more in profits as quality.

  14. Posted

    Hi everyone.

    I'm working in Atari 5200 history and many reports speak of failure. But, what things caused 5200 to fail?
    Your problematic joystick? Your games? Your old hardware concept? The Atari company strategy?
    I would like to know your opnion!

  17. Posted

    Just now, Ikrananka said:

    According to the "Official" Coleco History Book, Coleco hired Eric from Midway in 1976 (p46).

     

    By P&D do you happen to mean Coleco's Advanced Research and Development (ARD) department which Eric led?  Again, according to the above Coleco History book, it would appear to be in 1979 that the ARD department was formed.

    Yes. In some sites ARD is labeled how P&D. Sorry, P&D is acronym in portuguese language.
    Thanks!

  18. Posted

    I´m have two facts in Colecovision history what I don´t find anywhere:
     - What year Eric Bromley was hired by Coleco?
     -  Year what Coleco created your P&D departament?
    Someone know?

  19. Posted

    On 12/23/2020 at 5:42 PM, GBshe said:

    Olá,

     

    Sou neta de Eric Bromley. Eu adoraria saber a fonte, pois meu avô está aposentado há muito tempo e atualmente mora em Westchester, NY. Eu posso responder muitas de suas perguntas

    Hi @GBshe
    Your grandfather maked our lives much better.

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