ThatGuyMike

Gotta have a career to kill it. Jane just cosplays as a game developer.

I will note one funny anecdote during my interactions with Jane. Somewhere along the line he used to claim some connection to Peter Molyneux, and Bullfrog staff. A few months after I called Jane out on the lies about their Athena tech, guess who I started working for? (Ok I went from a con-artist to a more successful grifter, but I needed a job and at least the latter has delivered a couple gems in the past). Suddenly that Molyneux connection disappeared. Weird one eh? And every ex-bullfrog person Ive worked with or spoken to has zero recollection of Jane save for one, who suspects they werent around for particularly long. Then if you follow some other stories following the Indestructables, which Jane likes to brag about having a large part in, its said the project was canned because it was showing no meaningful progress. Sounds familiar right? Almost like its a repeating pattern over literal decades. Then lets look at Homicide Detective at Keystone Games. Another non-delivery (unfortunately one I was part of. Ask me what Janes direction was like on that one, there are some real special moments to share from that). Then look at what was delivered in Blue Sock Studios (once again, unfortunately I was part of this for a few months before Id had enough). Then Bad Panda. Then Athena Worlds. Each and every time the studio was abandoned, shut down or faded into nothingness. And whats the newest name he registered? Fantasy Parks or something? Lets see what miraculous world-changing thing gets announced this time around. I may have been fooled when I was still fresh-faced and eager to break into the games industry, but I broke in myself despite the stain Jane left on my career. And it turns out the industry is very small. Maybe one or two degrees of separation from any dev to another. We network a lot. And we all talk. Jane is basically an unknown in the industry, and the few that DO know, know. Theyre not shy about sharing what they know either. Jane lucked into a semi-success at one point and tried riding that for the rest of his life. Never seemed to try actually learning how to do the things he claims to do. I mean hes had more than my lifetime to learn something other than lying.

I also know that Jane does read these threads, he’s far too narcissistic not to. That being the case, I’ll offer a small reminder: I still have the entire Slack chat logs from Blue Sock ready to share. Full email chains between our lawyers. Chat logs from when you asked me to doctor a logo out of an article. And of course, the full court documentation uploaded here to the forum (and backed up in several places in anticipation of your games). I only have basic rules: Don’t slander me or anyone else, don’t threaten to ‘expose’ us for the hate-crimes you know full-well never happened. Stop claiming there was ever a hate-crime case, we all know there wasn’t. I don’t care what you lie about otherwise, you’re bad at keeping them straight and they always tumble down around you eventually. But keep me and others out of it, I’ll not have to intervene again (I can’t say the same for anyone else, only me) and for anyone else reading and still figuring out what’s true or not: just check out Janes business history over the past few years. Literally every one failed after some big ‘groundbreaking’ announcement at the start. Not one product actually delivered. Whether a fraud or not, that’s an abysmal failure rate.

It always happens unfortunately. They all come around eventually, or at least slowly disappear into the shadows. But the reality is nobody likes to admit they got taken for a ride, it’s easier to pretend they were right the whole time no matter the evidence to the contrary. I mean that realisation messed me up bad considering how involved I was with Janes work at the time. I’d not waste more energy on it, you’ll only be going in circles and Jane is already done there (even if he tries pretending otherwise). The sick wife (who has been terminal at least once a year for the past decade now) and excuses for silence are usually the indicators.

As the guy here says, I wasn’t ‘theTruth’, I’ve never been shy about using my real name online. I even laid out my full name in my initial response to Jane. in any case, it does appear Jane has played the same game yet again. I only interviene in special cases now, otherwise I just wait for others to discover the reality of Jane. I’ve spent far too much of my own energy dealing with that waste of space myself

I just gotta thank you for a little bit of vindication over there. I’m Mike, the guy who posted a little while back in response to Janes legal claims. I genuinely didn’t want to post there and disturb the community, I know Janes repeating patterns would lead to (his now? I swear Jane was straight-up claiming hate crime and bigotry for labelling them a guy previously?) inevitable self destruction yet again and I don’t follow closely what he does anymore. But he was being outwardly slanderous, threatening to ‘expose’ people etc. I had to step in and make a stance, let Jane know I won’t let that slide. I will apologise again for having to do that, it shouldn’t have been the place for such messages, but it’s where Jane happened to spout these lies and threats. I did expect the post to be removed quickly, as is Janes method of operation with these things. Silence the naysayers, use the gender identity as a shield, label the opposition bigots etc. I don’t follow the forums myself, but I have friends who let me know when they see stuff, in this case the ‘stuff’ being Janes inevitable self destruction. While I never aimed to convince anyone of Janes BS (the post was literally just for Jane), it’s nice to see an awakening of sorts occur. So once again, thank you for the vindication you provided over there.

A little early Christmas present for you all. You've seen the particulars of claim (posted a couple pages back, I believe), but now you can have the complete set with the official defence. This is all officially filed stuff, nothing Jane can contest. And since we got the case dropped with no gag-orders, we can post this freely. Once this was written up, Jane tried hard to get the case dropped under the condition we'd never be able to talk about it. But then nobody would ever get to see this comedy. Defence.pdf

Yeah thats the one Im thinking of!

Did you know that during my time at Keystone, Theyd regularly try to start conversation on Slack about their socks? I tried to brush it aside as just 'weird dude' but anyone who responded would be treated to long discussions about their little girly socks, or how they hang off the ends of their feet. Jane tried their luck with one person and tried to get pictures of their socks (I wont say gender or role because Im sure they dont wanna be associated with this). Over time Id heard other stories of weird sock-based discussions and behaviours. I came to suspect it was a fetish thing, and normally I dont care what gets you going. But when you involve unwitting people? Eugh, freaking disgusting and perverse. As for the programming skills, I have my own anecdote (not sure if I'd shared this one before, forgive me if I have). When I was working on Homicide Detective in Keystone, one particular asset required some additional code. Nothing complex, something I (an artist with a very base understanding of programming) could have cobbled together in an hour. In fact there was even a sample script in the Unity tutorial pages that gets fairly close to what I needed. But I figured the legendary programmer Jane Whittaker could do much quicker, much more effectively and more bespoke to my needs. So I ask Jane for the script, gave a description of the needs and a couple hours later Jane provides a script. Literally the same one from the tutorial pages. I ended up having to modify it myself, and there raised the first flag of "why didnt Jane just do it properly?" This was maybe a couple months into my work at Keystone so I didnt think too much on it at the time, but that one oddity kept sticking out whenever I learned something new that didnt quite fit Janes stories.

Theres no interviews that come to mind there, but dont take my own memory as fact on this. We had to speak to a lot of people and read a whole lot of interviews, articles and documents to get the truest version of events we could find (even now there are gaps and confusions in certain areas) so some things may have slipped my mind during that time 😅 I do recall some mentions in an old forum (someone else may be able to recall where this was) about Janes code on AvP having to be largely rewritten, and their time at Atari being cut short because they struggled to set up the equipment they were supposed to be adept with (I dont recall the equipment. Showing a bit of my ignorance here in saying Im no retro expert, just a modern dev who got caught in Janes web) I believe the only interviews that really hyped up Janes (or Andrew, but I'll keep using 'Jane' for the sake of consistency here) roles in anything were from Jane, not many people outside Janes very closed circle have much good to say, if anything at all. Most stories beyond just a casual name drop usually mention some of Janes odd behaviours, and often those behaviours revolve around socks in some way or another. Theres some things I wish I never learned about Jane and socks, things you can only laugh about lest you let the memories traumatise you a bit *shudder*

Most of the claims had little to no evidence of Janes involvement. A couple had some vague and disputable links. I mean Jane liked to show those bullfrog cards, a payslip and the Indestructibles design document as 'proof' of claims. Personally when I worked for Molyneux I could have just grabbed some random merch from his old games, photoshopped a couple documents and say I lead the design for Theme Park (and given that Jane once had me photoshop an article to better suit their narrative before, Im inclined to believe that wasnt the only time it happened) so I'd not use those as solid proof of anything. Janes short time at Atari was real, as was their involvement with AvP, outside of those though its highly debatable what they were involved in. At best, Jane inflated their position from QA or data entry to being the lead or VP, at worst they'd completely fabricate a new story. A common pattern that did emerge was Jane often didnt last long in any one place. Coincidentally that time seemed similar to probationary periods common in the industry. Remember Janes claims of Goldeneye 64? Strange how Jane never featured on the recent documentary there, right? In the court case Jane showed literally no evidence for anything at all. In fact when it was Janes turn to show evidence (after our defences were written and evidence given), thats when Jane really started pushing to drop the case. Because the next step would have been in the court room. Kind of a strange move for the supposed victim right? All this libel and attacks, enough to warrant bringing the high court in, but no evidence? So strange.

They made some expansions for Flight Simulator (personally Id also question how much work they did personally, considering during my time working at Keystone Jane also had me create work for both Flight Simulator And Train simulator, while also working on Homicide Detective. I was promised a team to lighten the load, it never happened to the work suffered badly as a result) but didnt work on the core Flight Simulator itself. The expansions have middling reviews at best. On at least one of the expansion on Steam Jane did the cheap and transparent trick of giving their own game a positive review under the guise of 'answering community feedback', because y'know discussion boards or the information page arent good enough for this. Definitely didnt sell however many millions Jane likes to claim (I believe at one point they claimed a higher number than the sales of the core simulator itself? At this point I think its worth wondering if Jane actually understands numbers and the order they progress in). As for the witness list, I have no doubts that most of those names had no idea they were even being used as witnesses. Maybe 3 of them would have known? Shuster, Stalibrass and Ward maybe. Last time I spoke personally to Mathieson a couple years ago was when Jane first accused me of harassment. Mathieson called me up to make me aware of the situation, mentioned it was being dug into and any evidence collected. If this case is anything to go by, the only 'evidence' ever found was a retweet on a Twitter account that wasnt even mine. No joke, that was my entire link to this whole case. A single retweet I didnt even do because that Twitter account isnt mine. But back to the point, I wont say exactly what was said on the call between Mathieson and I but it was pretty evident he knew associating with Jane and having them lead Keystone Games was a mistake. Seemed to just want to be rid of Jane so Im pretty confident he wouldnt have turned up as a witness. As Id mentioned before, it was real obvious Jane never wanted this to reach a courtroom. Id imagine the witness list would be part of it.

I can confirm along with Jason McGanns Twitter post that this ordeal is indeed over. Jane did try a few times to drop the case under the requirement that we'd never be allowed to talk about it which would be just another way for Jane to claim victim to the public, but we knew we held all the cards and just called their bluff. Jane obviously never wanted this to reach a courtroom, could you imagine how quickly their claims would fall apart under that kind of scrutiny? No, eventually we managed to back Jane into a corner where they had no choice but to drop the case with no requirements, which leaves all involved able to talk about what happened. Jane will undoubtedly try to spin this as them 'graciously' dropping the case as an act of mercy or something, but we have all the correspondence and documentation now. The best thing Jane could do is be silent, take the massive loss and humiliation, and just walk away. Decades of lies, scams and fraud all ended at Janes own hands. Ironic really.

I have no doubt that anyone who spoke against Jane will always be villainised by the few who stand with Jane, I've accepted that. But I am absolutely certain that in all Janes insanity, they know exactly what damage they're doing, whats right and wrong, or what stories to weave in order to escape another victim. The story changes and excuses are too purposely crafted in response to each situation to just be the rampant thoughts of a mad person.

I dont disagree at all, theres a reason Jane (and others) use vague phrases like this. Unfortunately it works. As for why the case drags on, without revealing too much or stating names, its because somebody keeps doing everything they can to kick the can down the road. Be that through insanely slow responses, scare tactics or just plain ghosting everyone for a while. Somebody