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Another Solution would be a developer Bios of some sort or Beta Bios with more room for changes then VCS currently has. Any Developer on here able to get me the developer version of the Console Bios? Could i download the Beta or Developer Bios any were? I have the original reflash bios. Any homebrew creator could help me out here getting the support onto my console sometime in future. Software engineer needed, or College student that might want to take a try at adding support for the Ryzen 3300U for me.

Could someone add support to the Atari VCS Bios for the Ryzen 3 3300U for me to find out if it would work then. Anyone know how or has added support to Bios before, A software MOD here to get my Console Working would be Cheaper at this point before i do any other hardware mods that may not work again. Again Reballing the old APU by hand is 300$, A new Atari is 300$ , Getting a Reball Stencil Made is also a problem because there isn't a 3D image of the AMD FT5 BGA 1140BALL package i can download from the internet with the precise ball distance and Ball diameter I can't just download one from the internet so to have one made will cost me 150$ Just to image the APU so they can make a Reball stencil for it. Then this Stencil itself is 150$ to make. So im at a cross roads with moving forward for this reason. Too much Cost Every direction. If someone can make the stencil form me including imaging the APU component to create the Stencil for less than 200$ Then i might do it. It cost almost 300 $ to have the APU imaged 3d or scanned then have the stencil made. Also i have to have the reballer able to use the stencil i have made meaning its one he knows how to use because im not a reballer. I inquired about this with no answer yet. If i get the Stencil Made i could pay a reballer to make another attempt on the motherboard with another APU Much easier faster and cheaper if i get the Stencil Made for the AMD FT5 BGA 1140ball Package. Could Anyone Image the APU for me to creat a 3D image or cad or data sheet for the APU for me for cheap. Or Even Better know were i could download a DATASHEET complete with precise measurements of the APU Package. Then i could bring the cost down to have the Stencil Made and Save some money.

Any performance boost... Most games use 4 cores so the dual core processor was a bad choice in my opinion to put on this game console in 2020-2021. Should have been at least a quad core. Smart TVS have quad cores, tablets, hand helds, etc. It was disappointing to me this console that i want to succeed only had a dual core processor. In fact i purchased my Atari VCS hopeing i could upgrade it with a better processor. Your right the Apu from the dead laptop could be bad. And NO the solder points were not X-rayed. It was an affordable attempt at 70$ for the dead board vs over 100 to 200 to 300 and up to 400$ for similiar processors on other high end boards. To attempt the swap. I went with a low end for that reason. The chipsets for these embedded processors are expensive. And the Atari VCS is a low end laptop budget system. Im already well over that price point. Overspent for this failure. But this should help someone else in the future discussing this topic on here. If you could find me a motherboard around 70$ to 100$ with the other processor maybe i would attempt it again. Also one good thing here is if the APU is in fact good and passed a xray test then that rules out all the mobile chipset processors for swaps and helps progress this idea narrowing the list of possible swaps that i am sure a few will try in the future if not already.

Or would the power more rely on the motherboard or the APU itself.

Anyone think it could be the psu used in atari being too small. It dawned on me today. The Ryzen 3 3300U came from a dead HP 15-CW1500SA witch uses a larger power supply at 19.5 v 45 watt vs the 19v 65 watt atari vcs power supply.

On this note this the reballer who did it for me here is his website He does computers and game consoles and phones like in the mall repair service. He does CPU socket replacement as well PS4 and PS3 and hdmi replacement etc https://ps3specialist.com/playstation-3-reballing-repair-service-up-to-two-years-warranty-you-choose-your-warranty-term/ He also has a shop recently opened near were i live. If you things break he can fix it. My hope was this would work and he could later offer this swap in the Atari VCS as an upgrade service or a reball service in the future when these machines begin to break witch they will eventually

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Its soldered to my board right now. Wiki chip package datasheet AMD FT5 BGA1140 and CPU World FT5 BGA1140 Ball. I had a reballer do it and the sockets are the same. Pinout too. Unless they did something to there socket for the Atari VCS like omit pins or something. That is the information i am hoping to find out as to specifically why the ryzen 3300U did not work? Otherwise my system is dead and project here is dead. Im trying to get someone to make me a stencil so i can have the same reballer try again with another apu or put the old one back. Below i listed my links for reference. There are a bunch of processors that use that socket. Ryzen mobile and ryzen embedded. I believed it was a Zen + Picasso That is why i tried a Zen + Picasso CPU World website link to the R1606G ATARI VCS processor https://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Zen/AMD-Ryzen Embedded R1000 R1606G.html Wiki chip link package details. https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/amd/packages/fp5 CPU world link to the ryzen 3300U this the information i went on. https://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Zen/AMD-Ryzen 3 Mobile 3300U.html

Thanks this is the end of the line for this one i think.

Thanks to my local reballing friend who made this attempt possible I forgot to say that in my earlier post. I might have that stencil made and have him put the old apu back in the console.

I Also had the soldered on board storage upgraded to 60GB and it worked and read in the bios using a Kingston 512gb endurance witch is 60gb tlc storage chip and it worked and read in bios. However Atari vcs will no longer install after doing so and my best guess is the installer does a disc check of some king and won't install to the larger on board chip. This is prior to the APU upgrade attempt So that can be upgraded. I was looking to find a 32gb FCBGA 153 ball slc chip witch is must faster and last longer but i couldn't find one. Or 128 gb or 64 gb slc. Kingston doesn't make an slc only mlc or tlc but. I realling wanted to find a 512gb MLC soldered on board chip but the only one kingston had is obsolete and i can't figure out what device it goes in or went in.

ATARI VCS apu upgrade Do not try this yourself as a disclaimer, I had mine done by a professional who does it for a living. I had my Atari VCS professionally reballed and had an a Ryzen 3 3300U soldered into it and it won't work, Witch i was prepared and knew it might not, after dumping 470 $into the project. The fans just spin so the board gets power but it seems there is no firmware on the board. Help!!! anyone out there think they could get me a generic bios on my Atari VCS and get it working for me. With the new APU installed. Confirm Ryzen 3 3300U FT5 BGA 1140 ball 4 cores 4 threads vega 6 graphics, did not work for apu upgrade. If anyone has done this with success leave a post. The best reballer in town did it to who does custom apus for xbox and ps4 and ps3 all the time so i know the bga solder rework is good. I can either buy another Atari VCS or have it reballed and put the old apu back in , both cost about the same. Labor for hand reball without stencil is 300 $ or so. Witch is fine. Anyone else try this with another APU, Maybe having success. Anyone know why the ryzen 3 3300U would not work as a replacement pinout is the same. Its on my board right now. So confirmed if not already the atari vcs is a amd FT5 bga 1140 ball unless they did something special to there apu to make it not work with another other apu. Atari VCS Engineers please chime in and explain if you would why the other apu would not work with the same pinout similiar specs. Thanks in advanced for replies Anyone think about trying this and going bigger think again it might not work. What core is used in the atari vcs. The 3300u uses a picasso core zen + according to cpu world.