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I see what you mean. It's decent...at least the grfx are good. I gotta admit, the game is hard as $+!+. But, at least it's got a *MAJOR* feature that I love...... PAUSE BUTTON I love that feature....and I really wish all of the PnP's had this. Well, this, and actually being able to keep high-scores after you turn it off. All in all, I'd have to agree with you, I did get a deal. You have to be carefull, though...WalMart is "clearance pricing" stuff...and the Ms.Pac-Man stick with the game-keys is actually $.04 higher clearanced, than it was retail. Can someone explain to me how that one works?

Alrighty. Thanks alot! Now to run over to Good Stuff Cheap and nab some batteries....

It pretty much brought me here. I won't deny it. I was looking into the cart hack, and ran across this site. From what I read on here, I liked what I saw about the FB2, so I went and bought one. I'm glad that the site isn't strictly limited to Atari, though. That's a plus that has been keeping me coming back. It's cool to be able to read and post reviews of other PnP games.

I just picked up this stick at WalMart for $5. After reading the review...I'm wondering if I should take it back. Answer me one question, though...since you have one. How are the game sounds? I'm not refering to the music, I kinda gathered how you felt about that. I can live with it(I suppose) if the actual game sounds are close. I actually hate taking back opened items that have no defects. They just get ash-canned(at least, most of the time). I'll wait until I hear about the game sounds before I do anything with it. Thanks.

The "Buzztime" trivia P&P box. For those who haven't seen it, it's the home version of the NTN/Buzztime trivia games that are popular in bars and taverns across the US and Canada. K-Mart slashed the price in half($25, down from $49). Well worth it, at the discounted price. A little pricey at the full retail(at least to me, but then again, I'm poor). It comes with 2 controllers, expandable to 8(each a different colour). It keeps a record of cumulative points, and has 750 trivia questions built in. Carts can be purchased separately for additional questions. The controlers are wireless, which is a huge plus to me, and use 2 AA batteries each. The main console(which sits nicely on top of our bedroom TV) runs on 4 AA batteries. Up to 12 player records can be kept. Personally, I give it a 4.5 out of 5. If you are a trivia buff, this is a good unit to add to your collection.

I really don't mind the lunar lander screwup....I actually have the arcade machine. TBH, there's only 2 games on there that I play with any regularity(mostly because I can't find my damned paddles )...and that's Missile Command, and Pitfall. But, to me, those 2 games alone were worth it. The fact that I can hack a cart port into it just adds to the bargain. My old 2600 doesn't work....and I really don't have the time to open it up and poke around.

Today, the wife and I decided to do some re-organizing. I made the decision to pull one of my IBM computers out of duty, which freed up a piece of real estate on the desks. I had the idea of pulling out an old Commodore 1084-S monitor, and setting it up in the place of it...and having all of my PnP's available to be hooked up to it. This free'd up space under the TV on the entertainment center, so I could keep the Atari 5200 and N-64 there, without as much clutter. The 1084 is a great monitor to have for PnP devices, as is ANY C=64 compatible monitor(1702 is probably the best, but more than likely, most costly). I'm just wondering if anyone else is using an older PnP compatable monitor, and if so, which ones? If you're just using your TV, sound off as well. We might all learn something!

Hi Lord Chaos. You *SHOULD* be able to use a travel adapter to power it....the problem lies in the difference in screen sizes between PAL and NTSC. There is a chance it may work, but a chance it may not. It certainly wouldn't hurt to try it(in other words, it won't damage anything). I would run PAL software on my Amiga, and it would work fine, except that the bottom of the screen was cut off. On yours, it may show up shrunk on the screen(which would be fine)...or it might flicker like crazy(because it's putting the next frames data at the bottom). Something else to consider, the travel adapters tend to get hot fairly quickly(within 10-15 minutes)...Do you have a "Saturn" store near you? It might be possible to find a European power supply that will work with it.

Does anyone know if Atari did any advertising at all for this thing? The only reason I ended up hearing about it, was because of a Vintage Computer forum I belong to, and someone posted a link to Curt's "Hack" page. That was the first I heard of it. I can actually visualize a 15-20 second commercial on TV....(I mean...I have a neat idea for one.....) Damn shame it's probably too late to use it. Although, it could be used for the FB3(HINT HINT).

It does seem odd...but every version I've ever played(including the arcard versions, from various manufacturers) have the same glitch. I'm wondering if there is a "dead spot", where the border meets the paddle....they appear to be connected, but a small gap exists(or, rather, the machine sees it that way).

We have 2 local WalMarts(I do hit both).....the closer one was down to 2 units when I bought mine. Went to 0 when I had to make the exchange. Went back a week later, and they had more. I was there the other day, and saw some woman looking at them, along with the other PNP games. I told her about how neat the FB2 was, and she ended up buying it. I think they had....maybe 3 left after that? I haven't had a chance to check out the other WalMart yet. At least Atari didn't over-hype and massively under-deliver....like another company *COUGH*Microsoft*COUGH* did.......

I'm not sure if mine is the heavy or not....has the hard angle front plastic. Here's the info: Manufactured for Atari, Inc. by TRW Electronic Components Company in Taiwan. Model No. CX-2600. FCC Type Approval No TV-363 SN: 81417989 I just spotted something while looking at that sticker...... Above it(from this angle), is "191" stamped in the plastic under the controllers/power adapter plugs. It's on the bottom of the case, on that little lip around the base. It does have the channel select, and open holes for speakers(which I thought were vent holes).

I've got a nice little collection of C= 8bit hardware. I wouldn't mind seeing a PNP console-style version. Especially if it either had a serial port, or had a way to hack one in. If it's done right, I'd have no problem adding one to my collection!

I don't know of anywhere that has it cheap....but it is a nice package. Worth the money, even if you can't find it on sale.

IIRC, this was a flaw in the original game as well. I happen to have a pre-Atari "Telstar Ranger", which has 4 pong games on it. The same problem happens on that system as well. I can only guess that the x/y on that upper corner is faulty? Maybe the code conflicts in some way?

I think Curt indicated that it would be a slot that is pin-compatible with the original cartridge slot, but in a different form factor. I imagine it will be something smaller, cheaper, and easier to carry around with you than the original cartridges, but also something that would allow an (unauthorized) adapter so you could play original cartridges if you want to. I don't care too much if they use a 5200-looking case, which would probably be "retro" enough to suit the product even though it isn't as recognizable as the 2600, as long as it is a 400/800 clone internally and not a 5200. As for games that should be included, one of my points in pushing the 8-bit computer idea for FB3 is the richness of its library of titles. Almost all of the major arcade games of the era had ports on the Atari 400/800 or 5200, many of them of high quality, and they could easily assemble a recognizable collection of core pack-in games by tapping into these, as well as some of Atari's 400/800 titles like Star Raiders, Star Raiders II, Caverns of Mars, and some APX games. Other titles they could tap into to create a really nice mix include the most popular games from EA, Broderbund, and Lucasfilm (I'm thinking mostly of Archon/Adept, Ballblazer, and Lode Runner), as well as some games from Synapse (Necromancer and Pharaoh's Curse would work great in a handheld, IMHO) and some others like Spindizzy, the Boulder Dash games, Flip and Flop, Jumpman Junior, etc. A lot of these are third-party games that would have to be licensed, though, so they might make better "sold seperately" titles instead of pack-ins. Of course, I wouldn't mind seeing some new games, either, as long as they aren't rushed like some of the FB2 games seemed to be. 988982[/snapback] Jumpman JR was on the C=64 stick. And a perfect port, IIMSS. Boulder Dash would be a neat idea. As would a miriad of games. I'd love to see a 2600 compatable or even 5200 compatible cart port. I have lots of both carts. If we can at least plug some of our old games in, I'll be happy.

As an Amiga owner, I know well how that battery damage can affect a PC board. Something you CAN do, which will protect it in the future(assuming there is no damage to the board already), is to run wires from the spot on the board where the battery goes, to the battery, and place it into a medicine bottle. Any cheap wire will work. Just solder the wires to the board, then onto the battery at the appropriate spot, then cap it in the bottle, and you're protected from anymore leakage.

CX2667. I have no idea which game it is.

Greetings to Bavaria!!! I would imagine that because they previously had a liscence for those games, that they could re-up that. I'm sure it would add some to the cost of the units, but I don't really see a major problem with that. Of course, that could be avoided by just adding the cart port....those other games would then be available to anyone who has the cart. I, for one, would have paid an extra $10-$15 for a built in cart port.

Why not? These things happen. The first one I got was broken, but the second one(replacement from store) works great. I doubt your wife will get upset about it, it isn't like she went through them to find a broken one....and it sounds like you didn't do anything to it.....

Unfortunately, you're not going to see Stargate on anything except MAME. What you can get is "Defender II," which is Stargate with a new name badge. It's as close as you can get. I think the Atari 2600 was the only platform that got it with both names. You can play Defender II it online for free here or you can buy it for any of the zillion home platforms it's on as a "Williams Arcade Classic" or a "Midway Arcade Treasure" (Genesis, Super Nintendo, Playstation, Saturn, Playstation 2, XBOX, Cube -- and probably others, including a mini standup "arcade" version. There's more about Defender II/Stargate here. 985931[/snapback] Well, the shockwave version plays pretty well. I've heard of MAME, but I've never used it. Does it cost anything? I'm rather strapped at the moment, but I'd love to be able to play this game!

Damn. Ah well. At least it's listed on the rarity chart as a 3......that's better than some of the ones I've got. Although, I haven't checked many of them either.......

Well, I'll be damned. How did you find......nevermind...... That's the one alright. Any idea what it's worth?

What? You thought he tossed some butter in a skillet, turned the flame up and made himself a sandwitch?!

Ok....you guys seem to know your stuff about the rarity of carts, and I happen to have an "Adventure" cart that I looked high and low around here for some information on....I'm coming up empty. I'll grab a picture of it, and edit it to this post, but for the moment, the label reads: 3 Tele-Games 3 skill levels for 1 player Program contents c 1980 Atari, inc. Use with Joystick Controllers sears, roebuch and co. 49_75154 That's the "main" label. The # in the lower right corner actually has the 49 with the underscore below the 49(which is about half the size of the rest)...but that's the best I could do to represent it. The end label simply reads: "ADVENTURE" It's been so long since I got this thing, that I'm not sure if I got it new with a box, or as part of a package deal at a HamFest. I'll have to go looking through my closet with all those boxes to find out. Any info on this would be appreciated. Like I said, I'll take a pic of it and add it to this post.