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Try again, if it still pops up then stwich from IE to Firefox.
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I'm going this year, but staying away from the Digital Press guys
So, you're planning on staying in your room all weekend?
Nah, what I mean is staying away from their table, booth, or something like that.
Nobody knows what I look like so I'll be cool.
I just might hangout at the AtariAge booth, or just play the arcade machines all day.
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I wish there's someone in the world who can mod tons of Ataris at one shot.
Like it would be cool if more Ataris would support S-Video and Composite.
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first Brazil (good call there CPU!!) , now Mexico.. what will it be in the next couple of years?

can't wait for a boxed one to pop up, would love to get this cleared up for good.

Rick
It's crazy when dealing with rare games.
first Brazil (good call there CPU!!) , now Mexico.. what will it be in the next couple of years?

can't wait for a boxed one to pop up, would love to get this cleared up for good.

Rick
Didn't someone have a box in storage, or has that years-old story been put to rest?
I think that rumor has been debunked. Several carts have appeared over the years and no boxes, so I'm guessing it's like Eli's Ladder and there is no box.
As for the scanline thing, If it's between NTSC and PAL wouldn't that make it PAL-M? So wouldn't that point to a South American origin for this game? To me that would make sense.
Tempest
Yes it would most likely be an PAL-M title (so it points to South America).
If some people's copies of Air Raid plays perfectly fine on NTSC TVs, then what's the deal with the 580 scanlines? Playing an PAL game onto an NTSC TV gives you an rolling image. That photo of Air Raid playing played on the TV in the auction doesn't show any rolling issues whatsoever. Also the colors didn't change when playing on an NTSC TV.
There's have to be more to the story than simply an hack.
my jedi sense tells me that fighter17 might not last long before the wolves get him
What wolves, I didn't do anything wrong.
FYI: There are enough members willing to ship to outside the US or Canada.Haven't you learned to read yourself, some people do have friends.
And the info posted about Air Raid that you seem to be refuting with all fervor has been re-hashed, then the re-hash has been microwaved enough times not to want to touch again. Search functions I hear are the "in thing" nowadays.
Hoppy Easter, Happy Spring, Happy Hoppy Everything, all.
Now if you are around Cleveland there's about a foot of snow on the ground in the last 3 days, lol.

It's great to have friends you can ask for shipping. Didn't thought about it at all.

Edit: Did anyone contact Garry Kitchen about Space Jockey and if he had any idea about Air Raid?
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first Brazil (good call there CPU!!) , now Mexico.. what will it be in the next couple of years?

can't wait for a boxed one to pop up, would love to get this cleared up for good.

Rick
It's crazy when dealing with rare games.
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Edit: Are you kidding me? Air Raid is not a hack of Space Jockey!Edit 2: You think Air Raid is an jack of Space Jockey because it sounds similar to Space Jockey and the gameplay is somewhat silimar?
Tip: do us a favor, do your homework and use the search function before you post: Air Raid contains 56% of the Space Jockey code.
The topic of Air Raid has been discussed many times before here, and while we still do not know the whole story, the weird number of scanlines and the Space Jockey code sharing are established facts.
Cheers,
Marco
Wait a minute.
You said Air Raid shares 56% of Space Jockey source code right?
How can you call a game a hack when just about all of the sprites were different (to some extent), and the shooting is vertical (not the other way around like in Space Jockey)?
Of all the hacks I saw in my life, they were just graphical changes or enhancements, not a totally different game all together like Air Raid.
I do admit that Air Raid plays the same like Space Jockey, but when the shooing direction is totally different than the original game (with also different sprites, and buildings than a moving mountain), I have my reasons.
Also I only call a hack a real hack if the hack version shares at least 80% of the original source code.
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Some times it's good to have common sence.
Classic
Thanks for proofreading my terrible English.
Shows how much common sense I have (hint: none).
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I herd getting Iron Soldier 2 is an bitch.
Price is right.
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Bulla.Don't think that cart is PAL or an fake (or even an hack).
If you'd checked the forums, you would have found out that:
- Air Raid is a hack of Space Jockey (an elaborate one, but still a hack)
- NTSC has 525 scanlines, PAL has 625 scanlines, and Air Raid has 580 scanlines
which shows it's, at best, not a normal / regular US NTSC release.
The cart on eBay is the real deal, well as real as real goes in this case.
Cheers,
Marco
Never knew about the scanline number.
Well according to the auction the picture of the game looks just fine on an NTSC TV set.
Then again most Atari titles don't cover the whole screen when playing on an SDTV set like I have.
Edit: Are you kidding me? Air Raid is not a hack of Space Jockey!
Edit 2: You think Air Raid is an jack of Space Jockey because it sounds similar to Space Jockey and the gameplay is somewhat silimar?
- Air Raid is a hack of Space Jockey (an elaborate one, but still a hack)
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Looks at Rubik's Cube.
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Might just be sour grapes too. How can it be authenticated?
Open up the damn thing of course.
Can someone get this guy unbanned from DP, like pronto??

Nah forget it.
They don't want me back (and it was my fault after all).
I think I'll like this board a lot.

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Might just be sour grapes too. How can it be authenticated?
Open up the damn thing of course.
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But how did Songbird release Total Carnage on the Jaguar? They went through Midway for permission?Yes..
http://www.atariage.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=76702
..Al
Thanks for the link.
The waiting continues....
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I WAS THE ORIGINAL SELLER ON EBAY OF THAT ATLANTIS II CART AND WAS UNAWARE OF ITS VALUE IF IT WAS THE REAL DEAL. I HAVE HAD SEVERAL EMAILS ABOUT IT SINCE. ALL THE GAMES IN THAT LOT WERE MY BROTHERS WHO HAS ALWAYS BEEN A COMPUTER GEEK AND IT IS UNFORTUNATELY A COPY THAT HE MADE. I ASKED HIM AND THAT IS WHAT HE TOLD ME. SO BREAK IT OPEN I DARE YOU AND SHOW THE WORLD. HOPE THIS CLEARS UP ANY QUESTIONS.
Maybe this is why the price has been lowered to $49,991.43

LOL this thread is going to get fun really quick.
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Ah, thanks.
Cheers,
Marco
Bulla.
Don't think that cart is PAL or an fake (or even an hack).
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Don't own an Jaguar but I'm praying.
But how did Songbird release Total Carnage on the Jaguar? They went through Midway for permission?
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The game isn't bad if you consider that it was programmed in 4 days.
Damn and I thought ET's 5 weeks was the record of the shortest developing time.
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A real crappy PAL pirate, yes

Cheers,
Marco
Give me a break.
The game is almost $700 on ebay.
And YOU CAN'T BID ON IT!

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How the hell the cart is PAL if the seller is located in the US?
If you think that TV is rolling, it's not. It's just the camera catching the refesh rate of the TV.
Oh yeah, auction is for US and Canada only (learn to read people).
Some times it's good to have common sence.
Quite the researcher, you are.

I've got some really rare Bomb games for sale for you, since I am in the U.S., they must be NTSC.
I herd some bad things about those Bomb games.
Ya sometimes it's good to use the search button too. The debate weither this is pal or ntsc has been on for awhile. So since I live in the usa then i cant have any pal carts cause this is the usa. Common sense my ass.It's because we're hardcore.
Lore says it's an American company.
From what I've read today apart from this thread it appears PAL.
Looks like a crappy pirate/hack to me =)
Well the cart looks real to me. Hell, we never saw the game box in our lives.
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Not bad.
Having an box for a terrible rare game, not bad at all.
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There you go! All you friggin' "NTSC only" collectors back off, and retract your bids!
(or sell me your copy in case you regret getting a PAL game)
Cheers,
Marco
Not "NTSC only", one at a time, I still need to get a shelf that stops these filthy PAL carts and boxes from rolling.

So what is the deal? Is this cart pal or not??
Jim
How the hell the cart is PAL if the seller is located in the US?
If you think that TV is rolling, it's not. It's just the camera catching the refesh rate of the TV.
Oh yeah, auction is for US and Canada only (learn to read people).
Some times it's good to have common sense.
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$697 bucks.
Damn.
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Perhaps because this game has the wrong number of scanlines to be a true NTSC game??
Cheers,
Marco
True shmue, it's friggin PAL.
Damn TV wars.
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I WAS THE ORIGINAL SELLER ON EBAY OF THAT ATLANTIS II CART AND WAS UNAWARE OF ITS VALUE IF IT WAS THE REAL DEAL. I HAVE HAD SEVERAL EMAILS ABOUT IT SINCE. ALL THE GAMES IN THAT LOT WERE MY BROTHERS WHO HAS ALWAYS BEEN A COMPUTER GEEK AND IT IS UNFORTUNATELY A COPY THAT HE MADE. I ASKED HIM AND THAT IS WHAT HE TOLD ME. SO BREAK IT OPEN I DARE YOU AND SHOW THE WORLD. HOPE THIS CLEARS UP ANY QUESTIONS.
Ouch.

I got something in my e-mail today...
in Atari 2600
Posted · Edited by Fighter17
GK should be Gary Kitchen. The man who programed Space Jockey for US Games.
Air Raid's source is based of the source code for Space Jockey (56% of Air Raid's source code is from Space Jockey).
Fake, I have no idea.
Interesting neverless.