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So this didn’t sell, I know it’s niche but it cost me £200 - £250 to put this together and I really don’t want to lose money on it. Any suggestions on it’s worth or am I better breaking it up and looking to make money back that way ?

Hi everyone, After a year or so of being boxed up I've decided that I have had my fun out of my PC-50x collection and am now willing to sell. ebay listing here: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/255051032804 Brief description of what’s in the lot: 2 x Grandstand SD 070 consoles (1 working, 1 spares and repairs) 1 Working Radofin console, 1 not working. Controllers + Light Gun + Tank Controllers Grandstand games: Supersportic Motor Cycle Grand Prix Shooting Gallery Superb Wipeout Submarine Radofin Games: Tank Battle Superstar x2 (1 doesn’t work) Grand Prix Skill Cycle x2 Superb Wipeout This is a collection built up over many years, all games bar one work. This is late 70’s early 80’s tech so please appreciate it’s isn’t going to be like new. Feel free to ask me any questions.

Hey, glad you’re back !

Thanks for the suggestions think I will go with: Super Castlevania IV (Castlevania Anniversary Collection) Platform: PS4 I double mine as a playlist as well, personal ratings and if I have completed the game etc. I also like to list games I don’t own but have played. For example mega expensive games, imports or only available via emulation (Mame). E.g. Darxide on 32x played on Mega SD. I don’t own it, but I have played it so want on my list for personal ratings, if completed, etc. The game is not good enough for me to spend my life saving getting an original copy. Perhaps it may be better for me to have a separate collectors app/list and a played app/list ? GamEye seems good for console games but lacking for my big in Europe stuff, there are not many entries for my Atari ST games and I presume the ZX Spectrum may be similar. I like the ability to have it on my phone as I have 3 consoles in the living room and my others hooked up in the loft so makes it easier to move around.

How do you catalogue games that are in a compilation ? Take Castlevania Anniversary Collection for example and Super Castlevania IV. So I own Super Castlevania IV on the PS4 which emulates the SNES version. How would you catalogue it ? a). Super Castlevania IV on PS4 b). Super Castlevania IV on SNES c). Not catalogue it at all and just catalogue the compilation d). Something I haven’t thought of. Sorry if this is anal but it has been bugging me for ages and I can’t seem to stick to any one method. So thought I would ask how everyone else would catalogue it.

Just found this thread, always nice to see 1st generation gaming get some love. I have all the PC-50x games apart from PC-508 if there is anything I can do to help let me know.

Sorry Blazing Lazers it has now been sold.

Thought would post on here first to see if any interest before putting it on eBay. This is the French RCA Studio II clone the Victory. Complete with two joystick attachments (which I believe are unique to the Euro models ?) along with a multi-cart. The system powers on fine, but there is no AC adapter included in the sale. I cannot get a clean picture, I don’t know if this is down to the system or the fact I am trying to use a French system on a UK CRT TV. I am also including the multi cart containing RCA Studio II games, MPT-02 Roms and homebrew titles. Regarding price I’m just looking to get back what I spent which is around £100 (shipping costs on top). Feel free to ask any questions and I’ll do my best to answer them. Payment via PayPal only. Thanks for looking.

Thanks for the information on the Visicom I didnt realise it ran slightly different to make incompatibilities. I just assumed it was like a Euro clone but obviously Japanese. The model Im hoping to get is a Victory MPT 02 what I like about this one is the fact it has actual joysticks rather than that horrendous keypad.

Hope I’ve posted this in the right place apologies if not. I might finally be able to source a European Studio II clone and was wondering if the multicart was still available ? If so who do I speak to and how much does it cost ? Does the multicart include the European and Japanese exclusives ? I don’t want another console to collect for so the multicart is the ideal solution for playing on original hardware. Thanks and again apologies if the wrong forum but this seems the go to place for Studio II. Oh I’m based in the UK if that information is required.

Wouldn’t it be more feasible for an Emulator and ROMs to run off a Jag CD ?

How about PS4 and Xbox One emulation as well ? He’s been a member since 2011 - so I sure hope he’s joking.

Yes that’s exactly what I get. I think the Emulator is looking for it in PSP/Game/PLynx which is not in my directory tree on Vita and it's not obvious how to point the Emulator elsewhere. I’m having the same problem with CaSTaway looking for a TOS Rom in a directory not available.

Rise from your grave ! Im trying to get PLynx running on my Vita via VHBL but it will not detect the lynxboot.img ? Yes Ive got it and yes its in the same directory as the eboot so why doesnt PLynx see it ?

That is an awesome collection he is selling. If I lived in America and I was extremely rich I would buy it lol. Thats the first time Ive seen the US box for Bingo.

The Odyssey limitations (or poor design choices) come to the fore with this one. Because the Odyssey has no idea if your obeying the games rules regarding the blue maze walls the game is to easy and to tempting to break and just resorts to a game of tag with a grid over the top.

Hmm have to disagree with Chronogamer on this one. Played with my daughter using OdySim. Unfortunately either due to us both lacking any interest in American sports or the complete lack of any automatic scoring we found this very dull. I find it odd how poor the Odyssey actually handles Pong style games. I know it’s said that Pong ripped off the Odyssey but Atari Pong is a much more refined game.

We enjoyed this too ! Once again using OdySim this is one of the few games I’ve played with my daughter (upto yet) wherein she has actually stuck to the game rules. Probably won’t play the game again but it was an entertaining diversion.

Managed to pick up a Radofin PC-50x System which accepts these size cartridges for a mere £5, strange how it is easier and more cost effective to buy additional systems rather than variants of the cartridges. Regards the game it is just like Combat on the 2600, impressed with the beefy sound and bespoke controllers. Apart from the Fundamental cartridge (which Im not interested in as its just more Pong) I now have all the PC-50x games. They are a fun distraction but the second generation was indeed a great leap.

Thanks to the wonders of Sly's fantastic OdySim I am now able play these old 'gems'. Like you I roped my offspring (daughter in my case) into playing. Mixed report if we stuck to the games rules we got caught in cul-de-sac's and keeping 'interstellar contact' just got annoying. However we tweaked the rule set dumping the 'interstellar contact' gimmick completely and both started with 8 diagonal chips so if we ended up in said cul-de-sac's we had a way out. Turns out with these 'mods' my daughter had a fun time, we will probably never play this again but we enjoyed it. However the Odyssey is pretty superfluous for this game, it is essentially a board game with the Odyssey merely supplying your avatar.

Nice. Wonder if hes planning to add the Visicom games and make it a complete Studio II Emulator.

Brilliant that it's turned up. I see the auction has ended early. Wonder how much it sold for ? Would be nice to confirm if it's the same as the Euro version.

So excluding the Odyssey, arcade and LED games for a minute let's have a run down of available games for first generation home consoles. 1). Pong and it's various iterations Tennis, Hockey, Squash, etc. 2). Breakout games, Super Wipeout, etc. 3). Stunt Cycle, Motor Cycle 4). Tank, Combat, etc. 5). GP Race, Road Race, etc, some seem vertical (PC-50x) some seem horizontal (Telstar Arcade) but appear to be the same game 6). Submarine 7). Shooting Gallery, some seem blocks some enhanced to large pixel men (Telstar Arcade) . Video Pinball standalone system only ? Am I missing anything ?

I would agree with the classification of PC-50x systems as first generation. They are Pong on a cartridge, it was a neat idea to save consumers buying a new system every time they wanted a different game but the console itself is just a pass through system. I also have a Channel F and find it definitely a leap ahead of the PC-50x. Not just for the ROM cartridges but the single player AI aspect. Did the the Telstar Arcade ever leave NA ? Or perhaps cloned in Europe which seemed to be the case for early systems. The first and second generation eras were definitely Wild West frontiers and pretty tricky to research. There doesn't seem to be much of a emulation scene (probably more simulation as we are talking none CPU systems) for the first generation. A MESS style emulator which simulates the different Pong chips and the Odyssey would be fantastic for historical and preservation purposes.

I own a PC-50x system and most of the games, it's nice to see some variation in game style as the first generation is normally just wrote off as Pong. There is also the Telstar Arcade which seems to offer some variety to Pong (would like to get hold of one of those). And of course the original console Odyssey tried to change things up a bit but seemed to require outside assistance such as board game pieces and overlays. I suppose discrete logic arcade games are first generation console cousins so the DICE emulator could be used for further first gen fun. So should the first generation be dismissed as Pong or is there more to it than the iconic bat and ball ?