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Well, i believe there is no analog control chip in the M model(its near the controller ports), as Atari was trying to cut costs towards the end. There may be other differences too. But basically the K model was made by IBM & the M model by JVC, I think. There was a thread here and a site(jaguarwiki i recall?) that tells you everything about the numbers/letters on the bottom. But check the jaguar FAQ(google it) also.

Look on the bottom and see if you have an M model or K model jaguar, post it here and then one of us needs to research if there is a problem with MC3D not working on an M model Jag. I know my mc3d works on my K model jag. I'll start looking around and in the meantime you could break out rubbing alcohol and qtips, cotton cloth and a cut credit card and thoroughly clean the cart edge connector with the qtips and the cart port with the cut to size(2 parts)credit card wrappped in cloth and damp with a bit of alcohol. Or i've used white paper folded up too, it gets black when inserted into the port a bunch of times. Just to be sure, but neither the jag or cart is likely faulty just possibly in compatible. I think i have an M model jag that i will test my mc3d on later and report back, if someone doesn't post a definite answer for you.

I'm glad i was able to get two Battle Sphere overlays, that i helped the artist(rubixcube6) with a picture of a design i found that he used as a template for the BS overlays I got from Gaztee earlier this year. They still need to be laminated tho.

Just play it on the base module then.

Interesting ☺ Jaguar more or less DOA sounds about right, Atari fans hoped it would do well, but the glory days were over, Jaguar marketing dept. /software/ release timing should have been better.

I know right!, lol, for some reason i've had trouble remembering it's two g's and one n, not the other way around 😁 - must be i am subconsciously thinking of my most prevalent similar association - cnn news lol but i think i got it now with all the disc encryption keys i've been making and your post.😁

For those that don't know, it would be nice if you were to explain yourself a little more. What is QLvs Jaguar? QL fanboyism - if so your in the wrong place. Why do I have have to follow all your links to find out, I suggest its so you can get hits at all these links ao you can make money on the site hits. Don't like my presumption? then explain yourself for those who don't know so I don't have click all over the net to find out what all this is about.

Wow missed this thread, will have to check it out on the skunk, thanks GroovyBee!☺

Sorry about the disc 1 chapter 2 of the movie freeze, i'm getting a second or two of white noise there which is indicative of too high a bitrate, my disc doesn't freeze there though, with this drive. I may be able to re-encode that track at a lower bitrate and redo the disc if i can locate my night of the living dead burn folder and source files which are somewhere in my Jaguar taiyo yuden archive cds collection. If any of you have a second cd player you could try it on that drive too.

That's awesome Chris! Very nice job on that box man! It really looks professional. I like how it's a Jaguar games box and not just a dvd case - nice choice. Sweet. I also like the Radius Cinepak logo - nice touch!

Haha! Good one bro! I'll leave that type of flamboyant illusion & subversion, passed off as reality and which is in the current repertoire (of a certain idiosycratic individual still grievously lurking around (^x2 )) to further venture into the realms of obfuscation of real unreleased Jaguar games as if are all obtuse and don't know what 3DO footage looks like! lol CJ.

Mickcris -that is a very nice case for your Skunk - I like that a lot. Especially the USB-A port on top! and label is very nice! @Sweet family of Skunks picture, Saturn!

Great! glad they worked! and that I didn't mess up the CD images. I watched a lot of Disc 1 last night and it worked pretty good with no freezing, so yeah try burning at 8x speed to prevent freezing or even lower say 4x if available. I noticed some of the previews on there had a momentary freeze but only at the end of a scene so I'm not sure if it's the original video and an intended effect or the Jag. It didn't cut out black or totally stop tho - a good sign. I think the Jag CD might be operating at max thoroughput with some previews. The XP machine and older burner would prolly be best. Now I'm thinking what I want to upload to my Mega account next, Cinepak Video wise,....that people may like to see. Oh hey, Thanks for the recent BattleMorph walkthrough you did - I'm using it and found it to be cool and helpful.

Hi Zerosquare thanks for chiming in here! I saw your post asking for documentation on the Ambery device in question, So I think I got the right link to the one I have which is the one needed for the Jag, http://www.ambery.com/rgbcgatovgac.html I have the older Ambery AV-1 but the current net page says the AV-1M is the current model, not sure of the differences but I would like to use my device with the Jag. I just scanned in my Ambery AV-1 Manual (below) and here's the link to the webpage (above) too. Can you tell me what I would need to alter on the current included adaptor or what would be needed to make the cable I have work - In my kit I have a DB15 to RGB component 3 wire adaptor, Power supply, and a DB15 to DB9 cable as well. The current model has the same device input/output which is: Input RGB Connector: D-sub 15-pin VGA female x 1 VGA Output Connector: D-sub 15-pin VGA female x 1 Thanks for your time on this matter.

LOL! Zero! - That gave me a chuckle Thanks.

Hello! this thread hasn't been active since 2010!.......... Mediafire has taken down my "Living Dead" Cinepak movie sometime ago for whatever reasons, sorry I thought it would be a good place but the new Mega.co.nz is where it's at. I have received a few requests to make this JagCD movie available again for download, and since it's 1 day after Halloween 2014 - I think it's a good idea for those that like put into practice the full potential and fulfillment of; "The Atari Jaguar 64-Bit Interactive Multimedia System" -something Atari wasn't really able to do, therefore; I'd like to now present you with an encore midnight showing of George A. Romero's 1968 classic film "Night of the Living Dead!" (PD) on the Atari Jaguar CD Player! All Fully Encrypted - Enjoy friends; CD1: https://mega.co.nz/#!yBp0zZ4R!lL329Zp5NgTdEUOwH0RzWdtdKcszE6J98cGmHOWBNT0 CD2: https://mega.co.nz/#!zE4ByCQC!DIBCXSJ-wKOMnDDEobSrMfV6vUMKtB-cH-TgWBI0hr8 CD3: https://mega.co.nz/#!3AwUTT4Z!5R_D8b_qIPOoM77ByTx15RsK81VqmJr6RIOF4-LvBPc -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- In creation of the cd images I used Discjuggler's image creator and selected; RAW Read, Verify Image, and ignore read errors for the encryption track which is made to look like an error. I have not burned an image to test but if there are any problems let me know we'll try to get through them. Thanks again to CJ, sh3-rg, ggn, & Neo and all at Reboot and Jagware - also Rubixcube6, & JagMod for helping me make this possible, without which I wouldn't have been able to do this at all. :) Happy belated Halloween!!!! -prolly my favorite holiday.

Well I haven't actually tried my Ambery device yet with the Jag, lol, but it's my understanding that the input connection that comes with it is not wired correctly(sync on green?) for the Jaguar's RGB output. A special cable will probably likely be needed. I guess i should pull it out and verify this, lol. Gunstar has one and has said he would make a cable for me so I can use the Ambery device but I never hit him up. If you read some of his posts he knows more about it, or maybe someone like zerosquare will chime in.

It may be similar as open tray mechanisms go, but I wouldn't count on it being the same exact Philips drive mech - the CDM12.1 or VAM1202 in the Jag. Open her up (the CDi unit) and see what it says on the back sticker of the mech, or look up the CDi specs to start.

I got that same error too, recently. But it still was able to process the disc. And your cd doesn't have too much info to get thru, so I'm not sure what's going on. Maybe just try it again. When you used cdrecord to burn it did you see it putting HOLDER.RAW at the end of the burning process looking at the number of blocks being recorded? I only have ever used reboots' utility for encrypting, which I know does work good. Maybe try a different JagCD unit too.

I'm not sure if the; kbps in the details pane of M$ Winblows7(jk!) of this cinepak converted video is meaning kilobits or kilobytes(bytes is the smaller bitrate size right?) but this video file runs on the Jaguar and is decent quality for the Jag, lol. Another thing, should I looking at the total bitrate - video and audio combined? to judge Jag playability? Anyways, I'm at 145kbps in QTPro conversions and i haven't gone higher yet recently since i started doing this again. I can sacrifice another CD-R to test. One thing is that some encoders say that; if the video quality is high in details the encoder may overshoot the set bitrate, if of course the encoding setting is not set to constant bitrate or something to that effect. Also, I have keyframes set to every 120 frames as you can see in the other screenshot which is supposed to be calculated as: fps - for the Jag it's 24fps multiplied by 5 which is 120. This is as I understand it how to calculate keyframes. Of course all keyframes set to 1 or 0, forgot, for both used encoders on the project would be the best, but use more disc space. (girl is from the movie "Dagon" (2001))

Those are the ambery units on ebay, I have one but it needs a special input cable as the one that comes with it doesn't work, I need to find out how to make the needed cable. may have to try to hit up Gunstar if he's still around. http://www.ambery.com/rgbcgatovgac.html or maybe this one; http://www.ambery.com/rgbcovitovga.html

Yes, I'm thinking CJ is on the right track as for why videos tend to black out after about 5 minutes on the JagCD. Yeah, see what I try to do is encode cinepak video to the max bitrate, going right to the edge of it's capabilities and when the player is operating at max thoroughput if there is the slightest hiccup the screen goes black. On pre-conversion of the videos(AVS Video Converter) I use average bitrate encoding to vary the quality of the video to maintain an overall bitrate, so the over 5mins. blackout tends to happen at the same spot in the video - possibly when there is just a little to much picture detail for the player to handle. i do have options of varying the bitrate to maintain constant quality as complexity increases, and constant bitrate - varying the quality of the video and dropping frames if necessary to maintain instantaneous constant bitrate. I am thinking I should be using the latter? You know I'm not sure because the QTPro conversion changes to cinepak so wouldn't that negate what was done in pre-conversion? IDK, did you know that video compression techniques is considered almost an electronic art form, I have a book on it - maybe i should read it more, lol. So my workflow is like this: find a video I want to run on the Jag, then take that to AVS Video Converter and encode it into an Mpeg-4 or 3iVX Mpeg-4(but Zerosquare said it is lossy which it prolly is) in max 320x240 aspect ratio - although you can resize the video with the cinepak conversion in QTPro by clicking properties and watching the aspect ratio as you adjust the window by holding the corner. From there i drop it on Jagmods' converter to get the .T00 file which is renamed to a TRACKXX.RAW then place it in the burn folder. Now Jagmod says to use .MOV files to drop on his converter and I notice it's harder to get more detail in the picture with that method - but I believe videos don't cut out as often after more than 5 minutes playing time - since the quality is less, the jag cd doesn't have to work at max thoroughput constantly. Oh, Saturn with the Cinepak-burnencbat.TXT!,txt file I made you would, of course just highlight/copy the amount of track.raws you need and only use that in the batch file always ending in the holder.raw if you want to encrypt. I just made that so I don't have to type all that with each disc made and to avoid errors as even a single blank space will mess up the cdrecord burn. So yeah, I got a stack of 100 taiyo yuden cds I will be experimenting with because each little thing we want to test out costs: 1 CD-R to check it out! Every change cost a CD-R lol! So many variables as several different stages of video conversion to figure out! So, I will at least re-upload the PD movie 3 disc set - Night of the living dead to my Mega account for Saturn and anyone else who wants it. I just need to make a .cdi, .nrg or .iso and .rar it lol! I seem to prefer .rars over .zips I was thinking I should take screenshots of all my settings panels I use and upload those to for reference. Here's a few shots of all the programs used opened on my desktop....

Hello Saturn!, I have recently found my Cinepak burning tools (by rubixcube6) and have relearned how to make a good quality cinepak CD and encrypt it also. You may want to read my Reboot thank you post in their Downfall+ thread thanking them for the utilities; CD Encryptor: Skunkboarded and the QUAKE picture display programs. I recently made two cinepak cds and encrypted them and made some JagCD Picture roms using their QUAKE program - it's awesome. Ok, well real quick I have uploaded the Cinepak burning tools folder and 2 texts that I use to burn cinepak CDs. I will help you create a cinepak cd from what I relearned about it. Let me go over some points you'll need to make your own cinepak cd with the desired content. Ok, first you need to copy the CDRECORD program in the folder to your "system32" folder within the windows folder on your C:\ drive and if on Windows 7 64-bit then also copy it to the "sysWOW" folder too. Then open an administrative "CMD" dos window change the directory to system32 and type; cdrecord -scanbus take note of the dvd burner location on your computer and then change it to the same in the CD_Tools folder below batch file and save it for later when you double click it to run it. This is so cdrecord can find your burner. When you make your cinepak videos, use a setting - to .avi in the QTPro movie exporting command and well I started with bitrate 120kbps but you can go up to 145kbps i think (haven't completed that test yet) will let you know how it comes out. If you right click your cinepak converted QTPro movies, check the details pane it will say a very high bitrate, well into the megabits range(not kilobits) but it should still work on the JagCD! You can use my text to just copy and paste the required number of video tracks(TRACK04.RAW TRACK05.RAW, etc.) you made to the batch file, if you want to use reboots Cd encryptor you need to add HOLDER.RAW to the end track. The other text is the PADCD string used for encrypting - fluffing out the key.ggn file. Keep your cinepak videos under 5 minutes - I don't know what happens but it fucks up and freezes sometimes with long videos so I keep them at max 4:50 times. We could do more experimenting to see if maybe a low bitrate file would run longer than 5 minutes on the JagCD and not freeze. I use a video converter program called AVS Video Converter to cut up and convert all videos to Mpeg-4 or 3iVX Mpeg-4 videos before I take them over to QTPro for cinepak conversion. Oh and with AVS Video Converter or others I'm sure try to beef up the audio volume in addition to any other stuff to enhance your videos like I use extra contrast, sharpness and brightness - a touch of each cause lots of videos are sometimes shitty, washed out or dull. Very important, when you get to Jagmods' converter - use version 1.52 from his site or you could still use vers. 1.51 which is included here - with the .avi files to drop on the program(Jagmod says to use .MOV files) to get the .T00 video file the sound has a reverse ATOM fuckup so the sound will come out as white noise unless you check "Skip conversion of RAW audio data.......etc..CoSo after effects" and also "square root(lossy)" in the box. This is why I up the audio volume in the pre-conversion to a 3-8 decible boost to make up for the lossy bullshiite. lol Ok, uhhhh, when I think of some more info I will post bro, sorry it took so long for me to get this info/files to you Saturn - I never forgot when you sent me that CD of Soulstar many years ago, If you need more help or have additional questions just post here or PM whatever you like. Files below. oval jag video cd tools.rar Jaguar Padcd string.txt Cinepak-burnencbat-TXT!.txt

Hi! guys and much thanks to: CJ & SH3 of Reboot as well as GGN, Zerosquare, Tyrant and Fredifredo, Didn't feel a whole new thread was necessary for a thank you, so I posted here real quick so you guys would see it, hope that's OK? I have recently made a few Skunk ROMs using the "QUAKE" picture display utility released on reboot's site with some of my favorite pictures and its great!- a real compliment to a cinepak CD, I'm really enjoying it. It took me a few times making test roms to get the right balance between ROM space usage and picture quality but I have several skunk pic roms (yes, some are girly nudies! lolz! - gettin' my JagPorn on!! haha-pun intended) now that are 4MB big with nice 20 nice quality pictures on each 4MB rom. It took me a few minutes to figure out how to adjust the preset picture quality of 80% to my desired 100% quality by altering the; dosbox-0.74.conf file since it can't be done directly - I right click copied the whole config file then pasted it to a plain .txt file made my change from 80 to 100 percent quality and then saved the file and renamed it .conf and put it back in place. I'm getting some very nice quality pictures with that setting. At first I had too few pictures and QUAKE was making 1MB roms then I had too many pics and QUAKE was making 6MB roms so I like 4MB files with 20 HD pics on it so I can fit two roms per skunkboard. Quake is Very Very nice work. Thank You to everyone mentioned above and all involved. I'm going to be making some more picture ROMS for the skunk - may even try it on an official Atari flash cart I have. Its awesome to have this utility, much appreciated. Also, I have revisited the reboot utility: "CD Encryptor Skunkboarded!" - another great Reboot utility. I have recently been trying to remember how to make a good video quality Cinepak CD and then encrypt it. I have only ever encrypted 3 cds in my life - a few years ago with my 3 cd "night of the living dead" PD movie Halloween Cinepak release which CJ and Sh3 and ggn helped me with but I forgot how to do JagCD encrypting too, damn. But I have it worked out now and have encrypted two cinepak CDs I made recently. I got an error or two, since it's a lot for the program on the Jag to process without a hiccup from the JagCD. I felt the Jag CD was getting real hot, so I put a fan in front of the Jaguar CD player as the program was doing its hash tables calculations as stuff and that seemed to make the JagCD able to get thru all 747MB of video data to be encrypted - it took a loooooong time!. It sent the ggn.key or is it key.ggn I think to my C:\skunk folder then I swapped that for my HOLDER.RAW file on the unencrypted version burning folder of the cinepak cd and burned it all to another second CD. I only recently bought a Windows 7 computer last year, I really like Windows 7. And the final program to be run PADCD (on key.gnn) would not run on Win7 64-bit OS so I had to take it to my 32-bit Windows XP Home computer (now sitting unused most of the time) and put the files in a folder and clicked PADCD and finally got the actual file to be used on the encrypted CD! in place of HOLDER.RAW. Thanks so much for all your work and help Reboot and Jagware guys, it's really cool to be able to do this stuff on the JagCD -I wouldn't have been able to do it without my friends here!!! I know this is all no big deal, but its still nice to be able to do stuff like this and feel the sense of accomplishment and technical prowess, lol haha!! Finally, I got a couple of unencrypted Halloweenish PD movies I had made a few years back (no HOLDER.RAWs on them) before I got sick with the 3 months of insomnia and it's devastating consequences that I would like to upload for peeps now, but I haven't decided if I should,.. I don't want to cause any waves in case someone finds something they don't like about the movies. Now that I have figured all this out, again! I need to help my buddy here; Saturn, out with some requested cinepak files and burning tools he needs. Peace out, oval

Here's the requested pictures of my scratched CGE Resurgence disc, for the replacement. Email for new disc, sent to Carl.