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There's no reason why you not have both of these features on your model M. When I first got my Model M and Fs (IBM PC AT) keyboards I looked up and printed out all keyboard shortcuts for Windows XP & 7 Google Chrome & Torch, Opera and other keyboard shortcuts lists for programs I use a lot VLC player too. It just takes a little time to memorize the keyboard shortcuts instead of relying so heavily on the mouse. For instance I use the keyboard for browsers a lot: Opening and closing tabs, switching between tabs, highlight and copy URL, reopen last tab closed, arrow keys to move around a webpage, etc, etc. I think that using keyboard shortcuts for many commands I issue may actually be quicker that turning on my wireless mouse and navigating to a some little box to click onscreen. It's easier on the wrists, less tedious and I like and want to use my vintage M and F keyboards more. You can access the windows key on a Model M by using the: Ctrl+Esc key -further the arrows can be used to navigate. You can make any Vintage Model M or AT board into USB -that has either the the old 240-degree large 5-pin DIN connector or the new DIN connector which is the ps/2 connection. You only need this OLD 5-pin DIN to ps/2 connector: http://www.clickykeyboards.com/index.cfm/fa/items.main/parentcat/11298/subcatid/0/id/569794 Then to make that USB you need: http://www.clickykeyboards.com/index.cfm/fa/items.main/parentcat/11298/subcatid/0/id/124184 All from: http://www.clickykeyboards.com/index.cfm/fa/categories.main/parentcat/11298 Now you can get that little USB keyboard adaptor box slightly cheaper maybe on Amazon, But in reading the reviews there are other ps/2 to USB keyboard boxes that do not perform as good as the one I linked to, they don't have the right chip in them to correctly process the Model M keystrokes to full USB compliance. Now for the really old IBM PC XT computer keyboard, the above scenario will not work for the XT boards, only for the Model M and IBM PC AT(a Model F) boards. I was thinking about getting an old XT board to try but I am unsure how I will like the layout and I am really happy with my AT board with fat enter key. But in order to use the XT board on a new age computer you need this unit: http://www.hagstromelectronics.com/products/ke_xtusb.html Also look at this info on the old XT, it's got a small enter button: http://www.clickykeyboards.com/index.cfm/fa/items.main/parentcat/11066/subcatid/0/id/571248 http://www.clickykeyboards.com/index.cfm/fa/categories.main/parentcat/11066 There are some on ebay right now, I think, for about $100 USD but there may not be any of the cool IBM AT keyboards that can be hooked up easy just like the model Ms. Further, The IBM Model F Terminal keyboards can also be used, but are going to be a little project for you and these are the hardest to hook up, to use a IBM Terminal board you may be able to just solder in a modern ps/2 connector ripped out from a donor board and it will work or you may need what is known as Soarer converter - a little board with USB protocol chip and pads to solder it up. And in order to make full use of a IBM Terminal board you will likely need to use a keyboard key mapping software for windows as some keys don't line up correctly and need to be moved around in software key mapping protocols. I ordered some dark blue keytops from Unicomp recently to replicate the $965.00 eBay sold olive-drab colored Industrial Spacesaver Model M as shown above, on a regular model M. However, for me there's nothing like the real item from the 1980s so I got my boards on ebay, they have a born-on birth certificate date on the bottom of every model M, for instance mine says made on: 17AUG86 - August 17, 1986.

Uploading new Dvd Cave .iso now,...this new Mega site has auto encryption, entropy and RSA key pairing. Maybe that will help this new Mega site from getting taken down by the Federales. I haven't did a test burn of the .iso but it should be good to go. Will update again when it's ready for downloading.....

!!!!!!!NEWSUPDATE!!!!!!!!lol Under duress, I have just stumbled upon in a random, clumbsy quick-n-dirty search of suspected jaguar items laden areas of the house, a clue that lead to the ascertainment, of the verified location of the offending DVD disc in question, control has authorized and initiated a robotic retrieval team into the dangerous dark reaches of the vile and sometimes pr0n riddled back closet in my room, now many minutes later, gloriously, "The Cave" highest available resolution DVD disc now lay in my hands,.... ready for a new assignment to entertain the people with pure 90's fun and laughs & women, it has no scratches on it at all and has been tested good for video/ audio playback on the on PC using VLC and XP. I have also looked up, investigated and found, it took me a few minutes tho, to find: mega.co.nz - the cloud based successor the the US Justice Department siezure of megaupload both founded by Kim Dotcom. I am all signed up on Mega cloud. All that beneath the remains, is to make an non-regional .iso image of it, (imaging program undetermined) and upload it to their cloud in the deep blue sky in one big massive file. *******This is a prime example of something my English teacher taught me: never use a bigger more complicated word when a smaller more simpler word will do!******* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mega_(website) (You'll have to excuse me but I am pretty ripped and tired and really liking this awesome IBM PC AT keyboard from 1984 that I'm typing this on.)

Awesome, you guys can appreciate a quality keyboard I see I don't think many people really give a seconds thought about their keyboard -but I can tell you typing gets easier, faster, a lot more enjoyable and with less mistakes when using a quality board. Btw the first picture above which is the dark olive-drab colored industrial SpaceSaver model M keyboard with some dark blue keys recently went for around $965.00 USD! on ebay. It is a very rare industrial board. I wanted that sucker but it's crazy expensive. The other lighter colored spacesaver Model M is worth about $250.00 or so USD. These are the prices on ebay anyways, supply and demand...oh well. It seems like many younger computer users/ pc gamers today are prefering smaller keyboards with the number pad cut off. I have some buddies that have really small keyboards on their home PCs. I'm like ok man - i don't know how that would be feeling after a few 10,000 word essays!

Oh great you got my order for both games. Yes, I said "almost" before I bought it! I got frustrated at not getting Elansar for the Jaguar so I went ahead and bought it for PC - it's better than nothing I figured and it looks nice! Can wait to get those games. I sent email/PM to you and I should be on your list for the Jaguar version of Elansar?, I hope as well.

Computer Hardware has always especially intrigued me, the physical components that allow us to use all the software programs we love. I want to know all about the hardware I use, I'm more into computer hardware than any of my friends or relatives. I've always been able fix the viruses, trojan horses, and insidious rootkits that sometimes take over, cripple and shut down the XP and Win7 PC computers on my home network. Sometimes all three Desktop PCs on part of my network get hit at the same time with three different but crippling problems that sometimes take me days to figure out - gets frustrating especially if I don't know if my data has been stolen, uploaded or wiped out by the malware. Luckily I've been able to fix all the tough problems that render a PC completely unresponsive or, un-bootable. I do not and never had to just "re-install windows dude that'll fix it" due to a problem. Because obviously I don't want to spend the hours tweaking the system to the way I want it, reinFingstalling everything! Surprisingly The Google redirect virus was my hardest battle to date, I was wrestling with that one for a few weeks. I do use Acronis full HDD images for disaster backups so I can relax and feel safe, I wouldn't want to be deprived of my internet, lol BTW, I feel nothing beats a full PC, not a tablet, not a laptop, not my Samsung Galaxy s3. Ok enough of my thoughts about computer hardware and destroying modern day malewares. I'll lead into the famous IBM Model M masterpiece of a keyboard by telling how I became aware of it's existence. So my newest computer is a midrange HP, I bought it from tigerdirect and proceeded to upgrade every component maxing out the RAM to 8GB, Virtual RAM, registry tweaks and Pagefile increases well. Then shoved as many sound cards, video cards Usb 3.0 cards, better fans, added internal blue/red lights, cloned my standard 7200rpm HDD onto a $200+ 1TB 10,000rpm HDD-(it's like a porsche: fast and expensive) - I wanted to try that before getting a ssd solid state drive, after that I bought the fastest Quad-core Intel i7 processor that my midrange motherboard could handle and put that in, I am tired of slow dilly dallying computers! I keep many things on a offline HDD array for storage. The reason why I didn't just buy a high end PC in the first place is because I wanted the experience of modding the system. Next time I'll by a high end bare bones kit. So now with a fast Windows 7 machine I have the cheap-ass bendy, squishy(not the good kind of squishy between a girls legs either ) keyboard that is responsive but hard to type on, for several reasons like keys that move considerable from side to side, black harder to see key placements. short cord, cheap cheap feel, no tactile feedback, not much key movement - kind of like a membrane keyboard like the Atari 800 but with no sound when the key is pressed. I feel I type reasonably well but these all to common bubble membrane pack in keyboards really slow down my typing and are tedious to use. So I started research keyboards, because I feel to have the least frustrating, fast and enjoyable home PC computer using experience that I should have the best human interface components that one can afford(regardless of the actual hardware in the PC case) - the monitor, mouse and Keyboard. Well I already have an awesome Sony 1080p large LCD that I use my computer exclusively on as well as the best mouse I found that I like; which is the rechargeable wireless Logitech Performance MX - a full size manly mouse with "darkfield" invisible & dispursed laser that will track anywhere even on glass. I use my mouse on the bed, floor, table etc. with no problems. I also use the woman's hand size Logitech MX Anywhere mouse also with the neat "Darkfield" laser. So I still had the cheap rubber dome keyboard to replace. My research led me to very nice gaming keyboards with full NKO rollover for multiple repeated keypresses that modern PC games require. These modern keyboards sometimes use Alps keyboard key mechanisms but most use the German made and designed Cherry MX series of keyswitches they have 6 different kinds of them I chose to buy the heavier ones that require 50g and 80g of pressure to activate they are the very popular Blue Cherry MX and the Green Cherry MX switches respectively. Many people like the non-tactile response Cherry MX Brown, black or red switches. So I paid bucu denero of $200.00 USD for a highly praised Filco board and $150.00 for A CoolerMaster Storm Quickfire XT. Now both these keyboards are nice, have full NKO rollover and are similar to the classic IBM Model M keyboard. But you know being the vintage stuff liking sentimental person I am I was just not that thrilled with their typing experience, but they are good - but I still may sell them off. So my first exposure to computers was in the elementary computer room (early 1980's) where I vaugely remember typing on the lighter colored IBM keyboards that were kinda like typewriters but I do distinctively remember the US asci? computer keyboard layout with the large backwards "L" shaped enter key!!!! -ring a bell anyone? And I thought wouldn't it be nice to have my most remembered childhood computer keyboard hooked up to my Windows 7 now customized modern day powerful computer! So I found out the IBM Model "F" keyboard is the one I remember with the big enter button. I searched it out and $220.00 later on ebay I had one. It was IBM Personal Computer AT (stands for advanced technology) used between 1984 thru 1987 and shipped with the IBM 5170 AT computer. It was their first keyboard with bi-directional IO but has a fixed cord with an original large DIN connector, which I hooked to a smaller modern DIN connector which is the ps/2 connection. From there I hooked it to a special little box that processes all keystrokes and converts them to USB -viola! It's so cool and retro it's awsome. The layout is a bit different but the ONLY thing it lacks is the dedicated arrow keys. The "windows key" to bring up the main menu can be done by a control+esc keypress. Now at the same time I researched and bought an IBM Model M keyboard from the first year of their production which is 1986 -a really good year for me. Did you know that practically all the keyboards today use the 1984 IBM designed Model M keyboards' layout - this layout was never redone because it was very very good and functional- good enough for all keyboards up to today date to be modeled exactly after. So I regularly switch between the my IBM model F and M keyboards. They are both known as clicky keyboards but the model F is clickier louder and more satisfying to use- my typing speed and accuracy is much improved and it's easier and fun to type Atariage posts on. They have developer Model Ms with clear keycaps for programmers -they can put their code symbols on a piece of paper under the keycap and change it at will - nice. If you look for one on ebay they range from $15 to $80 for the early units like the 1986 one I have. Got a 1991 unit for $15. Despite what you may have heard, the previous IBM computer keyboard shipped with the IBM Personal Computer XT (1981-1984) that doesn't have Bi-direction IO (for lights and such) can still be used on modern systems but a $50 adaptor is needed for that one to become USB -however the layout of that board is worse that the IBM AT computer keyboard and I haven't bought one of those to try - they are about $100 on ebay. I am quite happy with my childhood IBM AT keyboard with the backwards L enter key and the awesome model M. IT computer professionals sometimes often use a real Model M keyboard. One other thing Lexmark manufactured IBM Model Ms are slightly less robust than a real IBM USA (or IBM europe) made keyboard and they took over the Kentucky plant in 1993. So I recommend pre- 1993 for those interested in this top of the line premium human interface device. "Are You a real computer expert? Or just a low end computer user? You need to use a real keyboard. The IBM Model M keyboard. Alright well, I think I have talked/typed myself out for now and I want to give you links, quotes, and pictures of these great peripherials still in use around the world and very usable today! Below are various quotes from keyboard affectionados from the links I've posted: http://www.clickykeyboards.com/index.cfm/fa/pages.main/pageID/5 http://geekhack.org/ http://deskthority.net/wiki/Main_Page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model_M http://www.dansdata.com/ibmkeyboard.htm http://www.dansdata.com/clickykeyboards.htm http://plope.com/Members/chrism/25_years_of_the_model_m http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Personal_Computer_AT

Ok, let me know when there is another Downfall+ cartridge to order, I missed the order time window. Will there be a second run available? Thanks.

+1 What vandy said.

Oh didn't know they came in a box or case at all, if so that is a plus.

Very much looking forward to this game!!!

Ok, I was using Safari for windows browser and RGC site didn't load using Torch now and the RGC site came up I sent an email to: [email protected] so I will wait for them to respond but if they don't I may just go ahead and pre-order cause I don't want to miss this game like I've missed everything else.

OK, I am ready to pre-order this game. BUTT, what's all this about sending an email before ordering, pre-ordering? I need an email address to do that, I went to: http://mleguludec.free.fr/assoRGC/index.htm but the page is not loading correctly and I can't find an email address to let you know I am paying for a pre-order. So can I just go and preorder it on paypal anyways without searching for this email?? There is no email address to let them know i am pre-ordering in Albert's first post.

Damn I almost bought the Elansar CD on your website orion_ but then I saw it was just for other platforms like windows, etc. May buy that later but now I must feed the Jaguar, blood and bone & skulls to crush! just like the real apex predator -king of the Central & South American Amazon Jungle.

Ok, I sent you a PM, but I also found your email address, I had to go to your profile here on AA and then on over to your website to get your email address of: [email protected] I hope that's the right one. If not then let me know. Damn this is what happens when you move away from Jaguar for a time then back to Jaguar you miss all the cool ass releases. Put me on the list for anyone who doesn't want their cart on this second run.

I sent a PM to you orion_ for a Elansar cart, there is no email listed on your profile page. Is this the correct thing to do to get on the cart list?

Perfect!, because the Black and red strips like that look like a basketball.

Thanks for the welcome back Linko and sh3-rg - it's much appreciated and makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside. lol seriously thank you, I'm glad to be back. I like Gunstars' The Cave Cinepak idea. But in the meantime when I get ahold of the file I'll make sure it doesn't get lost again and the simplest thing to do I think is make a torrent out of it so as not to burden anyone's site or servers or use up their bandwidth. I can seed it too of course. One of my computers is always on anyways. If the torrent does die down the road then we can think of a more permanent solution. Just don't want to impose on anyone. Yeah torrents are great I still use them all the time.

Awesome! Nice work by everyone involved at Jagware, definitely gonna try this one out. Thanks for the great, long and tedious efforts to make a nice new updated version of this game.

Thank You sh3-rg! Glad to be back was gone too long.

Hello eveyone! That's great people are still interested in this! My bad for choosing a crappy file service site. The infommercial is really good for a laugh! Well, I've been out of sorts much of the time lately and for too long and have unsorted Jaguar and computer archive discs to go through but as soon as I find the conversion .iso file I made I will try to do something with it so it's around again. Or if I find my copy I can just make an .iso of that. Will update when possible. PM sent SacrifyX.

I'm excited about this game, yeah it's just a point-n-click but I liked Myst so I'm sure I'll like this one. Kind of reminds me of being back in the day when Myst stunned the computer world with it's near lifelike graphics. Gotta get an email off to Orion_ so I know right away when it's available.

I missed the first run, because of my prolonged absence from the video gaming world but this game is a great port to the Jaguar and I really hope I can get in on another run of this game. I'm going to read this whole thread now.

Cart only would be fine for me, hopefully i can get in onthe second run!

Yeah, A while after i uploaded my surprise holloween night of the living dead encypted JagCD set, mediafire sent me a email saying some bull about video piracy and they took down all my stuff and closed my account. I don't know what really happened there but they mighta just took it down cause its time was up, not enough hits or something..idk

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