ovalbugmann

Jason Data (MegaData) compiled his Native Spirit project for me and I now have a single "Spirit.cof" file. I understand this is for an Alpine Dev unit only. Is there any way I can change the header or alter the file to make it compatable with BJL, JUGS, or a flash cart?, as that's all I have. Incidentally, could you tell me what are all the file types that BJL can run, .bin, .jag, .pif? are there any others?

Is Rick on the Chaos Reins website still taking orders for them or modding a controller if you send him one? The link to take orders is still set up to do so. The Goatstore is sold out. Anybody know?

Hell yeah! their the best, wish I knew where to get one. Buddies - I can understand why you flip the controller upside down, so you can use the rotary spinner with your right hand, sounds more comfortable. Chaos Website

It's all good guys, lets just give him some more time to take care of necessary things on his end, he knows we want several CLEAR Jaguar cases, and is probably gathering materials (very clear plastic), and getting ready to bring the Jaguar case maker back on line for our limited run. We've waited years for this so, I don't feel a need to rush him, he'll get back to this thread when he's ready to take orders, I'm sure. You've heard it a million times: Patience is a virtue.

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Wow! Interesting message. So this message appeared on screen when you ran the rom at that address? It was just that text and nothing else? Hmmm... unusual. I wonder what other games have secret messages on them.

Yep, we should be happy with the games we have now, and knowing more are on the way. Here at AtariAge I usually stay in the Jaguar sections of main & programming. I also check the marketplace section, classic gaming central and off topic sometimes. However I like to check the 2600, 5200, & 7800 sections to see what their talking about and learn about cool things like the cuttlecarts & krockodile carts, & superchargers. I would like to get a 2600 six switcher, heavy sixer - Sunnyvale edition and a 7800 though. But the Jag keeps me entertained pretty well!

That's what I'm saying dude, a lot of questions, problems, and probably trashed Jaguar's could have been saved if this simple feature was added, I think it was an extra cost, and you know the tramiels. (but then we wouldn't have the goatari returns, being sold in six unit lots to take advantage of) All other systems show something, even if just an LED. Definitely. How many Jaguar's do you think have been thrown away, and trashed needlessly, because somebody that doesn't know you must have a cart inserted to complete the power circuit for anything to show on screen of even the LED to come on. A lot probably. The person on ebay that sold me one thought it was dead as well as islandfishing, that's 2 people I alone have come across in the last week. It just makes sense for the power to come on regardless of a cart being in there, that's a good sign and it will probably work then, as far as the Jag, but other electronics - who knows, we're talking Jag only here. Dead Jags always don't power up in my experience (of the three dead ones I've seen). Now I do agree as far as goatari getting dead Jags sent back to them, is a plus for people in the know, they just don't know what's required to make the console come on, and yes they are probably lazy or not a problem solver by trying simple things of the process of elimination, and changing things around, such as trying a different outlet, flipping the switch in the room, switching power supplys, etc. When I first bought my Jaguar I figured out quickly you have to have a cart, to turn it on. It's just a simple thing really, but a hassle for people like islandfishing, and that guy on ebay I mentioned. I don't mind it either it's just a question that will come up from time to time, one of those Jaguar quirks, a unique system - a unique power up requirement. This does happen often I'm sure, yet another person that had to figure it out, why not spare people the hassle, like I said doesn't bother me either, but people that don't know will continue to wonder, what's up with it. I too think it would have been a good idea, to have power without a cart.

There's some cool downloadable free games/video in following thread, to get your started with homebrews, but you'll need BJL or a JaguarCD unit to run them. some links in here

Congratulations, on picking up the original Atari's last and best console. Cybermorph was enjoyable I thought. I've played it to the end about four times The last time I went for a high score and got well over a 1,000,000 points, took about 3 days - had to leave the console on the whole time to get that score. Not all games come with an overlay, if fact a lot of 'em don't, but people make overlays for some of the ones that don't - even if it really doesn't need it, it looks cool. There are several in different threads here. There's even a dust cover one that says Jaguar 64-bit. There's a number of homebrews avalable, with some free downloadable CD images , search the threads here as there are links to them posted. Start picking up a few Jag carts here in the marketpace or ebay has a good selection. Enjoy! your Jag when it arrives and the Atariage, Jaguar forum.

I'm glad your figuring out better programming tools and techniques to use, it's kinda nice knowing there may be some software surprises instore for Jaguar enthusists!, it's great keeping the Jag alive. Cheers! to the future.

Cool! tag line, Gorf.

Whew! When I started reading your post that was my first concern! Yeah! Same here, glad your not exiting the Jaguar business! I have all your Songbird Jaguar exculsives and look forward to additional releases in the future.

I'll take a plain PCB with no shell, man! I like looking at the electronics I'll just hold the card by the edge and put it in a static free bag when done!! Sell me Madbodies! (While I have some spare money and before it all goes to bills and I get caught short for this game.)

How did it go LS? were you able to get full night effects, no stars, and with flares added?

Yes, I try to back up my HD often , using an incremental back up feature, to a full back up image I made previously. I'm using a program called "Acronis - True Image 9.0", which backs up the entire hard drive, partitions, OS, everything and compresses the data a little bit, so if my computer doesn't boot one day , I can just get another HD unit put it in and install the old HD image from CDRs. That's my plan anyway. I'm backing up to CD-Rs as I think their the most stable.

Yes, I noticed that too, no lubrication on the new gears, on the transports from Donberg Electronics either, so I put some on the cogs and slider mech for the laser eye, with a toothpick. I used some clear dielectric grease. Although I was thinking about auto grease. There was some old yellowish grease on my original CD pickup by Phillips.

jbanes: So your saying a chain is only as strong as it's weakest link? I believe that's what your saying and I just don't think it's that simple cut and dry here. There are aspects of the Jaguar that you are not taking into account, like the 64-bit components - why not all 32 then. And your being a little bit arrogant assuming that the reason for the 64-bit bus is to carry 32 x 2 words how the hell do you know what Mathieson intended putting in 64-bit components and bus? You estrapolated from his quote you posted that: I don't see him saying it's a 32-bit system, and the bus is for half-measures? Give it up, you know what happens when you ASS-u-me don't you?

From the JagFAQ: "Some say the Jaguar should be considered a 32-bit system, as that is the maximum register size in the programmable processors (the 68000, the graphics processor, and the DMA sound processor) Others say the Jaguar can be considered a 64-bit system, because 64-bit components are used, and the GPU can access 64 bits of data if required. The lack of an agreed-upon definition serves to complicate the issue." It just depends on how you look at it, jbanes sees it as a half-empty we see it as half-full. Jbanes: "Computers use all kinds of different bit widths, but the one that is used to define the overall "bitness" is the width of the main CPU's ALU. In the case of the Jaguar, it has 3 CPUs that all have ALUs of 32 bits in width. Even the ability to perform SIMD instructions on a 64-bit data sample does not change the fact that it's really 32 bit operations." How is it a 32-bit operation if the jag can access 64 if needed? I guess I don't fully understand this, because what would the abitilty to access 64-bits at ONE time be needed for if it's only going to be 32 x 2? Doesn't make sense there must be a logical reason for a full 64 in one instruction ability. jbanes: "The Jaguar is a 32 bit system that has 3 32-bit processors wired to a 64 bit main bus. The double-word size of the bus allows for twice the data rate of comparable systems, meaning that the Jaguar can potentially process more data in less time. No processor in the system can handle 64 bit words. That fact is utilized in the design to increase the data throughput between the GPU, Object Processor, and Blitter. If the machine was capable of 64 bit processing, it would slow things down as only one word of data would be transferred over the bus at a time rather than two words." Ok, makes sense, except for 3 -32bit processors mentioned, I thought it had 3 64-bit processors. From the FAQ: Q. Was the Jaguar really a 64-bit system? A. The question is hard to resolve, largely because the definition of what constitutes an "N-bit" system has not been set. Of the five processors in the Jaguar, only the object processor and the blitter are "true" 64-bit components. Because the blitter and the object processor are in the Tom chip, by extension Tom is a 64-bit chip. Furthermore, the Jaguar also used a 64-bit memory architecture, according to Jez San of Argonaut Software.

Even if the GPU only accessed 32 bits x 2 at a time, it is still possible to access a full 64-bits in one instuction, that means it is truly capable of a full 64 bits at once, which makes it a true 64-bit system, even if it doesn't take advantage of that feature all the time. jbanes: Your pushing word size, right?, if it's accessing 32 bit wide words -the the system is 32-bit? ILLOGICAL, because it is still capable of accessing a full 64 if and when it needs to. I guess it depends on how you view this, jbanes you say it only accesses 32 x 2 bits at a time (2 words) that may be true while running some programs, but it is still capable of a full 64 if needed. You are looking at the actual work it does, we are looking at the full capabilities of the system. Let me give you an analogy: in the simplest terms: If your watching the Twilight Zone on TV and of course it's in black and white video - does that mean - Your watching a monochrone monitor or a Black & White TV? No. Your TV is color capable dude, and if you switch channels you will see that your monitor is not monochrome but fully color capable. The Jaguar can be considered a 64-bit system, because 64-bit components are used, and the GPU can access 64 bits of data if required. So, basically; "Communication is performed with a high speed 64-bit data bus, rated at 106.364 megabytes/second" and " the GPU can access 64 bits of data if required" So, looks like your in the minority, jbanes, and majority rules, I totally agree with Gorf (he has 12 years of Jag code writing experience and what experience on the Jag do you have, huh?) on this and think you are downgrading the Jaguar by speading innacuracies by telling people it's 32-bit because of word size, it still can do 64 in one pass and that makes 64-bit whether or not it uses it. Your logic is not all-encompassing, as it should objectively be, but limited to your "word size theory" and your biased definition of what makes a 64-bit system.

Cool!, I didn't make it or anything like that just to let you know, forgot where on the net I got it, but it's supposed to be a actual working basic schematic of the Jaguar's systems. All Ligit.

Saboteur is back and going to do another Jagcode 500!! Check it out on JSII. There's no reason why Do The Math can't continue with his plans, the more development the better!

I'm keeping a few handy too! As far as rust on the motor casing, I'm inclined to believe it was atmospheric, a lot of mosture in the air, or it could have been taken in from the cold and put in an enclosed space - condensation would form that way. Nevertheless, you know how to fix it now! I got my CDM12.1 (now a VAM1202 sometimes) from Donberg Electronics LTD in Ireland it's at: Donberg Electronics Here is the page with the part: CDM12.1 at Donberg the part number there is: 21241/G Cheers, ovalbugmann EDIT: Oh, Were you able to move the rectangular piece of cover aluminum with the laser eye slot in it over to the new transport, if your replacement didn't have one? There was glue on mine that was able to just stick to the new transport easily. I had to be careful not to bend it though.

Just for fun , I wanted to add this diagram, it's good to get an overview of what's being talked about:

Just for fun,... ever wonder what a Jaguar Memory Track looks like with the shell off: