Thunderbird

Better tell him to send me his explanation in an email. I've decided not to sign on here for a while until some of the trollers and flamers get bored an leave. I've had it with the insults and flamewars.

It does indeed work on XP. His com ports might not work! The COM ports will work if they use 16550 chips like a standard PC compatible computer. XP doesn't interfere with that. Strange Laptops with non-compatible ports (or worse yet those ports they hang on the USB bus) won't work. hmmm What exactly does "Hmmmm" mean in this case? Have you discovered something?

The whole engine is a lot smaller than I had imagined. Looks like it could have been used to make a lot of neat games. Too bad it was never fully exploited.

I think you may have this wrong. An Audio blank is exactly the same as a data blank except that it has a few bits set differently so that Audio CD players recognise it as an audio blank and will record to it. Other than that they are exactly the same. They cost more due to royalties being paid to the music industry as they know you will most likley copy the odd CD with them. This is why the audio CD-Recorder decks will only accept them, but a PC Burner will use either just as well. You can on some Audio CD recorder trick it into using data discs. One example I heard of was to put in an audio CDR and one the system recognised it, gently prise open the draw just enough to get the disc out and replace with a data blank. The recorder thinks it has a CD-Audio Recoradble and is happy. save you a few quid too Seems to me like you could break the mechanism prying it like that. Is this really worth the small savings in price of the media? They all seem to be priced pretty much the same.

How much do you sell them for?

I thought that the authors couldn't remember it. Is that not the case? Does someone know what it is?

More insults?

Have we concluded that the task at hand is impossible? If nobody else is working on this, then I'll put more thought into it.

What do you mean "still" on the way? He makes it sound like he can revoke the goods even while in transit!

It has come to my attention that one of you people in Jaguar-Land has been infected with a virus. It has usurped your email address book and has been spreading itself by emailing people at random pretending to be various names from the address book. There are viruses going out with Steph's, Scott's an my own addresses in the 'from' field. We have also gotten a virus claiming to be from 'jeff minter' and from sales at telegames. We have also received a number of "failed" email messages to people we have never heard of. We believe it's all straightened out now, but there was a period over the weekend where some ISP's were blocking mail from my account and possibly Scott's. If you emailed me or any ScatoLOGIC member in the last week and have not heard and answer by today, then please resend your inquiry. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Please stop insulting me with your completely unsubstantiated accusations and off-topic flames. I will report you to the moderators if you continue to harass me. You are just making trouble and ruining this board for everyone. The number of complaints being lodged is enormous.

Grow up.

Yes, you've pretty much nailed it. ..Al Take your punishment like a man. Also, stop being a hypocrite. Moderators are not above the law. Insults are not allowed here. By ANYONE.

LOL! T-bird "changed his ways" only because he was probably more or less told to by AA moderators if he wanted to stick around. Kind of like Hannabal Lector "changing his ways" because he was locked up and put in a straight jacket! But I suspect that AA moderators didn't tell T-bird to go as far as he has in his "changes," but it's probably occured because he's too stubborn to "find middle ground," so he's just gone from one extreme to the other in a sort of immature "protest." IMHO. Are these types of immature insults the only type of message you can compose? If so, please leave. They have no place here. In fact, you have no business posting in this topic, as it is not any of your concern. Your only apparent purpose here is to start trouble with your flames. Even after numerous warnings from the moderators, why do you persist?

It's good to see it finally coming down.

Hey someone tell them that you can get Aircars for $40.00 at B&C. You can also download copies of music and movies with Kazaa and Morpheus too! Does this mean the B&C aircars are pirated? I didn't realize that had been determined yet. No they are not pirated here is an e-mail Ive got from B&C B&C wrote: Someone is pulling your leg.

Exactly' date=' since we have a valid set of test keys, the setup can be easily tested. JagMod[/quote'] I have several reasonably fast PC's and a couple ultra fast PC's and access to some others. If everyone else who participates can come up with some processing power, we can make some real progress. I was thinking we could also possibly get non jaguar people involved if we promote the idea to the general public as "cracking RSA encryption". We could get additional help that way.

Hey someone tell them that you can get Aircars for $40.00 at B&C. You can also download copies of music and movies with Kazaa and Morpheus too!

There's a lot to be said for finding out the real key just to prove it's possible. (I mean, what's the point of climbing Mt. Everest anyhow???) But the learning process involved is something which will definitely help reverse engineer the key for the CD, which is our ultimate goal. There may be unexplored benefits to using the real encryption instead of the bypass as well, like helping copy-protect software or something.

Tbird, I've been pondering on "how" for quite some time. I thought of maybe using the RSA encrypt and decrypt routines to take a known piece of information (say maybe the universal header), decrypt it and get whatever that may be. Then use a method of trial and error to re-encrypt the universal key and do a comparison. But I'm not sure if this is even correct method to try? By decrypting the universal key only, is whatever is produced all that is need to re-encrypt? Will the de-crypted MD5 program give us the memory range that was encrypted so that we can match the original data correctly? I'm not quite there yet to know if this has an chance of success. I do realize that this method will take a very long, long time to complete unless we had a good amount of distributed resources. I had just last night stumbled on some of Scott's discussion on this from years ago and some discussion from Bastian / Duranik on their thoughts. What do you or anyone else here think? Glenn At first thought, I imagined that this was the way to go, and thought I could whip out a program in a few minutes to do just that, but then after thinking it through a bit I realized it would take longer that I'd like and that there should be a way to reduce the number of keys tested. I was about to study it in more detail this weekend, but it looks like Linkovitch is the resident expert. What we need to do is write such a program and then test it with the test keys to try and see if it works. (Obviously giving it a "head start" by starting at a value close to the actual test key.)

Well, it looks like I'll be finding myself a different little pet project to take care of this weekend. Damn day-job getting in the way again!!!!

Not sure I can agree with you. The public keys appear to be indentical, so why would they make the same public key amd different private keys?

Does anyone else suspect that the private keys are the same for the Cart and CD encryptions?

This thread sucks.