Paolo

OH! This is news to me. I had to make a copy of the CD myself, in order to get it work, and it does. So I just hold the original in its case, and play with the copy. Maybe I should consider the destroying thing...

If I may express my opinion, I'd say that this would haven't happened if the discussions were 'live' (as in face to face). I noticed that sometimes the written words do sound heavier because the writer wants that the concept is clear. Unfortunatly, in order to acheve this, you have to use stronger words than necessary. Then, the flames start. I remember I read the very first annoucment and replies about JagCF, and I clearly remember the "you gonna kill the developers this way" attitude. However, I always thought that this was just a "let's hope they won't run ROMZ on that thing" attitude, actually. Then, we know we have some developers that can have real colourful and funny wordings, and again, maybe, written words without real face expressions can be sometimes irritating. I am a Jagfan just the next AA or JS2 guy, and I am sure everybody appreciates the Scatologic work, as well as Gorf's team work, and Jagware work, and Starcat's work, and also publishers'/vendors' work like B&C and Songbird. Of course everybody has got his own opinion. Let's just express it in a friendly manner, shall we? </rant> :-) edit: By the way, I'd buy the CF just for running the new amazing games will be developed for it (yeah, Starcat, I'm talking to you!), since I would not be interested in USB downloading homebrew stuff that is not readily available on CF/cart/CD (I am a lazy one, I know), nor in the networking thing (I don't know if there are more then three active Jaguars in Italy) unless it can be deployed through the Internet.

From what you say, Gorf, it seems that you had an extremely nice and intelligent contact ad Midway. I can fully understand how valuable is such a contact, and I can understand that you mean to credit him and thank him whatever will happen with this licencing thing. And this is the right thing to do. Thanking people for being honest and serious with us. He could just say, "Yeah, ok, ok, we'll see... yawn" and then forget about you; instead... All in all, thank you, Gorf, and kudos to Midway for their PR/legal/licence guys behaviour. About me, if this Gorfian thing has a happy-ending, I'll be happy to 'sponsor' a new owner to honour your charity campaign, since I already own a copy of your first run.

OK, guys! FrogFeast #45 is home, safe and sound. Well, sort of. It didn't work, but afret a disk copy made with my mac at the lowest speed (8x) everything was ok. Too bad I don't have another sticker... Maybe when I have time, I'll scan it... :-)

I think that the solution is in a small, very focused new Atari. They obviously can't be the huge megacorp right now, since they wouldn't succeed. It should be a restart. like Nolan did the first time, and Steve did with Apple, and the guys at Activision did later, and the YaHOO! guys did recently... I know, it's still a 20M value, but I think that the way Curt did with the FB should be the way to go. HW and SW again. Small steps, knowing what Atari really has been and who values it today, and then grow up from that.

Just to jump into this discussion, I've had my Falcon running at [email protected] for ages (only software trickery) and recently I sterted toying with higher resolutions. I also managed some weird 600x600-ish @"true"colour

I have been in contact with Mario at that time, since I wanted a card. As far as I can remember, any "normal" application would benefit. NVDI was happy with it, too. There was a list of known issues, but they were some minor bugs. I think Mario's website still has the whole documentation... EDIT: I was right: http://gem.win.co.nz/mb/atarihw/galaxy.html is the main galaxy page. there are pages about the bugs, and other interesting stuff.

and, by the way, you can know what does your hardware/software do, by visiting Tim's Atari MIDI World. tamw.atari-users.net/

Even if the price tag is small, it would be interesting to have a premium shipment option, where your order is handled via registered mail, with a tracking number. I know this would cost more, but it happened almost twice to me that a package (jag or atari stuff) has been lost in the mail hubs, and I had to search endlessly and buy again... :-( So, I'd be happy to pay for the insurance/assurance. However, I understand that it would raise the price in an uncomfortable way.

I'd just like to know if the actually ship overboard without a price increase: I placed my order (to Italy) and the price tag was the same... Well I hope they'll ask me more money if needed, instead of letting me in a loophole.

... and anytime I hear about the bad framerate in HS, i feel the urge to clarify this: it. is. not. the. framerate! Just leave your hovercraft going straight and then tell me if the framerate is bad. The point is that those lazy programmers had the great idea of divide a 360 degree field in -say- 36 steps. This way, any time you tap the left or right arrow, you 'jump' 10 degrees to the left or to the right in A SINGLE FRAME!!! That's why you think it'a a choppy framerate.

ME TOO! (this is obviously going to be a me too'er thread, so ... )

Hi hate to break this extremely interesting conversation, but I had to chime in just to say: WAY TO GO, GORF!

If I remember correctly, Homa Systems used to have Mustek, Umax and HP scanners drivers. Their website looks down, now.

it is VHF on my ntsc jag S-video? So it is not RCA. you can get a scart-SVideo converter or you can build one yourserf: if I remember correctly , it is just a matter of a couple resistors and a diode

well, don't quote me on that, but if it was STF*m* it would have the *m*odulator, so you could hook it up to any RF input of a TV or a VCR. However, I think that you can take an RGB signal out of the monitor connector of the STF and hook it to a SCART input of any TV.

However, you already made the mouse adapter thingie (and the code for it). Will Eerievale still support it?

Italy here! (two Falcons -one is a ct60-, 1 Mega4STe, 1 520STfm (populated 1024)

I think I just miss the 'defocus' effects on the jag edit: I wish it *was* in the Jag

Let me think... ...hmmm... Well, ANY new Jag game would do for me!

And, maybe, if you need to show that people care, you could start a petition-like thingie, and we would all sign it, so to avoid useless mailing campaigns.

You know, I find your conclusions right, but you took some weird road to reach them :-) I used MultiTos (MiNT came later) with my MSTe because I had to use a PPP connection to my ISP since they dropped SLIP. I couldn't setup STiNG so I bought CAB+PPPconnect and I HAD to use Multitos. It was ok, nothing impressive, though. A little bit unstable, and nothing new in the GUI/AES department, but it got the job done. MTOS evolved, and new AES started appearing, as well as new desktop managers. MiNT (MINT is NOT TOS) took the Unix route (and became MINT is NOW TOS) and now is a walk in the park for linux experienced users. It allows multitasking, and manages various filesystems (more than windoze can handle) including NFS for network shares. AES can be somehow considered the equivalent of X in unix/linux, the graphichs device manager that allows application to run in graphics mode (so to say). We have N.AES (commercial, pretty solid, no more supported/developed), MyAES (very nice and cool, I'd say early beta), Xaaes (mature and developed, it currently became a kernel module for MiNT, so it's fast and powerful) and there still is the plain old AES4. Then we have the desktops. Thing, Teradesk, Jinnee. They just let the user be at ease with folders, files, programs, doubleclicks, file associations, copying and such. My favourite is Thing. I am "studying" Jinnee, I don't like Teradesk too much (I find it just plain, however I sometimes skip the desktop altogether and run my apps directly from N.AES) PS: I am not reading again what I wrote, so, please, you probably would just ignore my post

US $1,525.00 !!! The thing ended up at OneThousandFiveHundredTwentyFive American Dollars!!! Then they talk about mad-priced Macs. Phew! :-)

$1200??? WOW! Maybe I could find some of my old Falcon styrofoam somewhere. Anybody interested?

Nice to know what's up at Jagware. :-) You keep yourselves so busy that you don't feed news very often.