Mayhem

I'm guessing "Mean 18" must be a LOT easier to find on PAL because I have a duplicate of it myself and I've only just got into 7800 collecting here! Of course this does mean I'll miss out on playing a few NTSC only games for the console now...

>i've been getting all my stuff off ebay. >who are HES? How much have you been paying >for your cartridges? i averaged out all the >prices i paid and it works out about £3.50 >a cart; all but 3 were boxed and half are >still sealed in shrinkwrap. Probably a little bit more on average, just depends where you get from really. But most of mine have been shrinkwrapped as well. I'd say the two 7800s, lightgun and 40 different games have cost me around £250 so far, I will have a few dupes after this too. HES = Home Entertainment Suppliers, an Australian company who published both licensed and unlicensed cartridges for a number of machines such as 2600, 7800, C64 and Nintendo. A number of the non-Atari brand 7800 games were published in PAL by them, which makes that route the best way to get them. >i released yesterday that 5200 = 2 x 2600 >and 7800 = 3 x 2600 I always wondered why >they chose those numbers..... >why 2600 in the first place? No idea, but the multiplying up was deliberate. Having said that, the 5200 was originally going to be the 3200... >i thought sentinel was going to be a >lightgun version of the BBC micro game. I >was EXTREMELY dissapointed when i got it >and found out it wasnt, because that would >have been a GENIUS idea I thought it might have been a version of the Synsoft "Star Raiders" clone for the C64, before finding out it was a different lightgun game. No idea what this BBC version you are talking about is now, never came across that one...

I need all the ones you do apart from Super Skateboarding. I also need Centipede and maybe a couple of other PAL ones I can't think of offhand. Most of those listed are likely to be found in Australia, as HES (different to the US company of the same name) released some themselves. As for the lightgun, there wasn't one specifically made for the 7800. Most people (like myself) end up getting the XG1 which came with one of Atari's computers instead. Works fine apparently. Or you can use other makes with a little rewiring done.

Welcome to the fold! Like yourself, I live in the UK and have recently just started getting into the 7800. And funnily enough when the current orders I have are processed, I'll have 40 games collected as well (and a lightgun too). I've been trying to find out what games were NTSC only, and so far it's come down to the 2 Froggo games and Robotron. Don't know anymore at the mo. Perhaps you can enlighten me as to what you've found out. >Is there any way to play them on a PAL system? Not as far as I know. Some of the hacks you'll find around are for desperate US owners trying to play Sentinel on their system! But for now, I don't know any conversion method. Just a case of collecting and never playing I suppose... >did the pro-line controller ever get released in the UK? Not as far as I am aware. One to get in from the US. It's not too bad, similar to the controller that came with the 2600 Jr I think. >also do master system light guns work on the atari? Don't think so directly, but can probably rewire it. I'm sure info like this is featured in the 7800 FAQ on this site. >did the 5200 actually get released in the UK? No. That's a definite answer. It's NTSC only. If you want to collect for it, you'll have to import from the US and then either rewire or homebrew a PAL conversion board so you can plug it into a TV. I have friends who have done this, so if you are REALLY keen on getting one, then I can find out how to do it properly.

I currently have 40 PAL 7800 games, was wondering how many in total were not released outside US (ie. only NTSC) so I know realistically how many more I have to get? Presumably the Froggo games weren't, but after that...? Just not sure. I heard Robotron wasn't either...

I'll be getting this (on PAL) very shortly, and as I'm a master of the game, hopefully I should be able to go straight through it and find out for sure if it was properly fixed