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Well, as a dev person I have a Jag connected to my PC anyway
I take your point though, I'll be much happier if it's possible to format the games for CD without having the source, but you're right, eventually almost all of them are likely to come out.
JagFree is still going to be my main purchase reason...I wanna play Caves of Fear
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And it happens so rarely you remember it for a long time...
C'mon, you stole our language and then started doing things better than us; we have to have something to be proud of
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Sorry, I don't have a SCART television so I'm not able to say how S-Video compares to it.It's a standardised RGB connection for European TVs, so you get the quality associated with RGB connections on standard TVs
Life is good
And Agent X, RGB quality = SCART quality Has to be seen to believed...no more muddy RF for me!
And of course the other advantage is that if I want to take it round a mate's house I can just take a J64 and a scart cable with me
Hehe...you looooooose
God I love it when we Europeans do something better than the USA, hehe!
/smug
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According to Carl, you WILL be able to get the BJL progams on cd, and play them on the Jag with Jagfreecd. He's even including a disc of NATIVE for just that! You may not ve able to just copy them to cdr and expect them to run without some kind of front menu, but it WILL work!!!You need to modify the code to do that, and I'm not sure if the source is required to do so. But your second point is what I said; they have to be formatted as a CD game, you can't make ISO9660 CDs of your BJL games and expect them to work
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S-Video blows compared to SCART.
If you can find a cable and a 60Hz TV that supports it you'll believe me
Until then us Euros will smash your display quality into the floor
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FYI, on a composite linkup the colours are standardised.
Yellow = Video
Red = Audio Left
White = Audio Right
I think the audio channels are the right way around, but connect white to white and red to red and it'll work. Red is used for a mono connection (like your TV appears to have).
Enjoy the Jag!
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Just one Jaguar and ProtectorSE and a cdr with your favorite BJL downloads.Not true. BJL games can be modified to run with JagFree CD, but iirc only if you have the source.
What ProtSE *does* include is a version of the BJL ROM that runs off the cart, so you can use a BJL cable and a PC as a full BJL setup (instead of doing any hardware modification).
Personally I wouldn't do it because I'd not be too happy if I corrupted the ProtSE EEPROM (a known bug...upload a file from the PC before you enter the BJL upload screen and see what happens ) since the increased size is designed to store EEPROM data from any CD games you may be using with it.
Personally I'm looking forward to testing my small stock of prototypes on it
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Don't forget Checkered Flag, Kasumi Ninja, Double Dragon V, Iwars, and other drivel to numerous to count!What're you on? IWAR is class! Great game
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A. No, the ROMs' copyright is still owned by the companies that created them. Disseminating them, copying them to use on emulators, Alpines or flash carts is illegal if you don't own the cart.
B. No. Tom and Jerry (the proprietary design chips) are still (afaik) under copyright. You could recreate the chipset but I honestly doubt you could get it a lot smaller than it already is.
C. THIS is legal. Why is it unlikely given the status of B? There's a thriving hobbyist scene with MANY new developments going on.
Basically, by saying "releases their rights to the Jaguar to the public" they mean you can use whatever means to produce new stuff for the system without fear of being sued by them. (if you made and released eg GBA games without asking Nintendo you'd find their suits on your door within days; this won't hapen with the Jag). That doesn't mean they'll HELP you, they just won't hinder you. Thats why mods that would normally be illegal (eg Songbird carts that bypass encryption) aren't.
Hope that cleared things up for you.
Any more questions don't hesistate to ask.
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And Painter is a game that can be loaded up with a BJL, JUGS or possibly the Jagfree cd, what's up with it being in the list?Because the JagFree CD of it hasn't been released yet, and the game is still being worked on. The version you have is actually one of the demos included on the most current BJL ROM.
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If it's the same game,Which it isn't.
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and someone is going to "publish" it, I doubt I'd buy that one since I already have it!No, you don't. I do
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It's not good enough to be a commercial release either...Again...your version isn't, mine is.
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unless a TON of work has gone into improving it...Which it has.
If you want to spend the rest of the thread trying to prise your foot out of your mouth then feel free
The problem here is that you're referring to the version released YEARS ago and I have the new version, which is much cooler (music throughout, nicer menus, more levels, etc, etc.). Gordon of SiniDev released a video of the release I was testing for him; it's on his website somewhere. The address is
http://sinister.kewlplace.com/
Enjoy.
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I do? I mean... I do.And you're wrong Quite close, but no cigar.
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so is it or isn't it I am the confused personYou are indeed. That goat is NOT Flossie, Flossie is a sheep. Nor is he a goat belonging to Minter
Of course, *I* could be the confused one, but YaK's site is down so I can't check. Ah well
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Yeah, I've seen the "cheat" for music in multi...I did say I can't play multi since I only have one cart though
I reckon I can improve on the standard network error rate with a heavy-duty shielded cable, but the disadvantage is that it wouldn't be anywhere near as long as the one supplied with the JagLink (10m, wasn't it?) since I don't have a piece of cable that long. Maybe I'll buy some when I get another copy of Doom
Still, it should be possible to increase length of cable if you have a corresponding increase in shielding. I'll have to play a bit
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The lack of music in Jag Doom really bugged me when I first played it - I really loved the PC version and I was hoping that Doom'd be much the same on the Jag, but the experience is somewhat different without the funky music in the background. Scarier but less fun, imho.
Still need to get a second copy to link...got a JagLink early last year but never got around to buying another one
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I had something similar with IWAR...after a few plays the game wouldn't play the music on the title screen. A few hours of cooling-down time fixed it for now.
Also, my NBA Jam cart won't work if my PC is switched on...weird.
Stone
[ 02-23-2002: Message edited by: Stone ]
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anyways, my guess is that its flossie and its jeff minters goat (tempest2000/tempest3000 VLM/VLM2). if not, then I have no damn clue.
The latter...Flossie was a sheep
Actually he's no relation to Minter at all, though I think Dan thinks he is...
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Here's a checklist for ya:
1) Check there's no crap in the cart port preventing a cart from entering properly. You'd be surprised what falls in there; when picking apart Irata's Jaguar I found part of a pencil in it Took me the best part of an hour to remove with a pin, but hey
2) Clean the cart contacts (most likely). Use a cotton swab (Q-Tips if you're a USA person) and some isopropyl alcohol; it comes in cassette recorder cleaning kits etc and is also called rubbing alcohol. When the contacts come up nice and shiny it should be ok.
3) Clean the cart port. Same as above, but be careful you don't rip the end off the Q-Tip as you ram it down the cart port because it'll be a pain to remove. I haven't done this btw, I'm not that stupid, but you'd be surprised what people occasionally come up with in these parts
4) Repeat 2).
5) Repeat 3).
6) Check you haven't bent any pins in the cart port in your zeal to play the game. Possible although I've never managed it; I imagine you could fix it with a pair of pliers or a pin.
7) Repeat above until it works
Hope that helped...sorta
Stone
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quoteWhat is the name of the Goat that is in our logo, and what is his relationship to videogames?IIRC, he didn't have ANY relation to video games, just a slightly unfortunate coincidence that he got photographed...quote:
If you have already heard the answer, please don't answer as that won't be any fun...
And if we can't remember the answer?
Actually, I really can't remember everything relating to this particular goat, but he definitely wasn't as closely related to the person you're thinking of as you think. I think
...if I can confuse people enough with cryptic comments then everyone will have even more fun!
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My personal JagCD faves:
IS2
VidGrid
Battlemorph
Primal Rage
Highlander
(not in order).
I don't think Blue Lightning deserves its awful press either; it's not actually that bad a game, and better than Afterburner (imho).
Still, I don't like AvP, make what you will of my opinions
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how can the code of the game be affected by dirty contacts?
It can't, but if the joypad code is written without taking such things into account it may simply do nothing when confronted with them. We've experienced the problems when using an extension cable so I'd guess it's just not very tolerant of noise on the joypad port.
Have you considered you may be playing the game in a different style to your other games? If you press the diagonals harder in MC3D than in other games it could make the difference between it registering and not.
quotedosent the Jaguar use the 68K chip to controll the joystick among alot of other things?Common misconception alert: the Jag can read the pads with any chip, just the 68K is usually used to do so. There's nothing (afaik) preventing a coder from accessing the pads using any of the chips present in the Jag, nothing is hardwired in.quote:
if there is signal there is signal nomatter how much or little there is
Correct, but if the code requires a certain amount of 'signal' to trigger a button-press then it may not register. It's sadly not as black and white as you seem to think it is...you could set up code to only register a press after a set amount of time with the button pressed (to prevent a single press being detected as many due to an effect known as 'contact bounce' - look it up if you're interested) and I'd suspect that code doing this is causing your problems.
quoteit's a anolog joypad, it's either on or off.You mean digital. Analogue means it can supply any value in a range, digital is 1/0.quote:
and it's hardware controlled isn't it?
Erm...no. The coder has to personally set up routines to make one row high (logic 1), then check each of the column inputs for a signal, then move on to the next row and so on. Hardware is only involved in that the pad is physically connected to the Jag, the coder has to do everything else.
quoteatleast it would be logical to do it like that right?Since when have Atari systems been logical?quote:
leave hardware with hardware and make the software to fit?
That's what it is...you seem to be arguing both sides of the argument at once. Your argument was (I thought) that the pads are read in hardware, which isn't correct. The hardware however allows the software to access it directly and select what it does.
Hope that answered some of your questions
Any more feel free to ask. And apologies for the quote-fest, I went a bit overboard I know
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It now includes advice / info on the reset-switch mod.
Hope it helps some people
The URL is http://addie.voicegateway.com/bjl.asp .
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Now that you mention it, I do seem to remember hearing about this before... Perhaps there is a bug in it. I haven't had the problem, but then again I don't really play MC3D much anymore.
Wasn't that caused by using a joypoad extension cable?
Either way, looks like the joypad code in MC3D doesn't like flaky signals; I test all my code with a joypad connected through a TT (used as an extension cable) and I haven't had any problems so far, so it looks like they gave up on improving their code once it worked
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So in answer to your question, no, it's not legal to copy commercial Jaguar CDs.
Except as backups of CDs you already own, that is
But he's right, the rights (no pun intended) to the games are not owned by Hasbro but by the people who originally developed the games, and their lawyers probably wouldn't be too happy to know that people were pirating their stuff.
Prototype CDs are pretty much fair game, however.
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I guess it would just require an enormous amount of time to do a decent job of porting to such a different platform.You've just answered your own question.
They said they wouldn't do it without solid funding, which I agree with; no point in producing another sales turkey.
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hehe yeah, rag freak is cool.I never knew there were so many shades of black
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So where are u in UK?Kent. Too far for a quick trip / wild cash-usage frenzy in the North Lanes, too close for a weekend (what I did last Nov, with parents). Works for me; twas basically a case of "we're going shopping; you have your cashcard, meet you here in 4 hours" lol!
As for Sweden, ok you could be closer in, but as (technically) non-adults it's hard to get around a lot in the UK. I know for a fact I wouldn't be let out to CEX (too far away) and unless there's places to shop in your area it's nigh-on impossible to get any new games or anything. I only subsist because of the people I know who sell stuff over the Net.
Still, point taken, Sweden is probably more of a hole than here...better if you like "clean air" and all that sorta stuff, hehe.
Stone
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