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Yes, you are correct about the Odyssey 5000. I have read on several websites that the Odyssey 5000 became the Odyssey 2, but never found proof of this in a picture. I was very happy when I found this. I would love to have a color version, but I guess the black & white will do. As for Tank II, I read on several websites that the Atari 2600 controllers were modeled after the Tank II's controls. Again, I never found proof of this in a picture, until now. This is why I wanted to post the pictures, and I decided to post them here first as a way to give back to this great forum. I know it is not much, but it is the only unique thing that I could give to the community.

My wife and I use to have a website called www.vglist.com. Well, it is back up and running and while I was going through some old material to update the website I found some interesting pictures. I could not find these on the web. (that is not to say that they don't exist, but I could not find them) So, here you go:

I wounder if this is what Curt was talking: Vivendi To Merge With Activision

The Commodore on a stick is already here. It has been here for a long time. I'm going to go out on a limb and say it has to do with SEGA. It would be a huge story if SEGA is getting back into the game hardware biz. Just a thought.....

I've been tempted to get one of those (especially since the new one has D&D on it, except: "Games have been optimized for this unit and are not identical to the original Intellivision games.", sounds like Nintendo-on-a-chip to me =/ Plus, Intellivision came out in '79, and Mattel's been around much longer, so it can't be that. Colecovision...but they've been around before the 80s too. Sega? Even though there's plenty of Sega handhelds (some of them from Curt)? Commodore, which just had a pretty impressive handheld? I just checked a few timelines, and have no idea who it could be (might not even be a console manufacturer). Here we are, back to speculating Maybe somebody like Imagic? Their time line is about right, isn't it? Curt didn't say if it is a video game company that made hardware. I wound say Activision, but they never went away, so it can't be Activision. Sometimes speculating can be fun!

I think either one would be great. I did notice that Intellivision already has a new product out. (Sold Out too!) Intellivision 10 2nd Edition The news may not be Atari related, but either way, thanks Curt for the information.

I don't believe I said anything bad about Curt, and I am not demanding anything of anybody. I find it very offensive that my speculations of a company not being able to make it past the first of the year, is some how on par with personal attacks!!!!!!!!!!!! I think you need to re-read what I wrote and you will find I attacked nobody with what I posted.

Normally I am optimistic about the Flashback products, but I don't see anymore FB's happening. At least not under the Atari name. What make me say this? Well, it was this post in another topic: I was thinking the same thing. Either that or they need to pay their lawyers to begin bankruptcy procedures. I know that Curt said he wouldn't say anymore about the subject until after the first of the year, but I don't think there will be much to say. I think Atari Inc. won't be around after the first of the year!!!! (Maybe I am just in a bad mood today )

Only 13 hours!!!!!!!!!!

Only 2 days left!!!!!!!

It has been awhile since I had an auction up. (last Xmas I think) That time is soon again, so here it is Atari 1040 STE, 4MB RAM, HD, Software, Many Extras!

I use to play this one in the arcades all the time. And this was a 2600 fav of mine.

I had to make this one. It is an old Odyssey2 fav of mine.

Here's one I liked on the 3DO

This one slipped by me. It happened back in June from what I can tell. Here is a link to the website: Buy atari's history

Its not a bad idea, however it would put Atari in direct competition with the Wii and I don't think Atari has the money to do that. The only downside that I see is, Atari may look like a copy-cat to the Wii, but then again, if it makes money who cares

Maybe a Jaguar II Just dreaming though

The more I think about this 'advanced folllow-up system', the more I think it could be a 7800 or omni computer. It's the 'modern gaming arena' console that puzzles me. The most modern consoles that Atari have made are the Jaguar and Lynx. It couldn't be, could it? I guess we could speculate the rest of the year on what "modern gaming arena" means. However, to me it sounds like a compilation game for one of the current game systems (maybe some special controller to go with it?). I originally thought like you, maybe a new game system, but Atari just doesn't have the money to compete on the level with Xbox 360, wii, or PS3. I guess only time will tell.

I doubt that Atari would dump FB2 portable for FB3 and then state that FB3 was coming out in Spring '08 unless it wasn't smoke and mirrors. There's no way that they could put a product together without some prototype and have it manufacturing for a Spring '08 release unless a lot of the work was already done. Especially since Atari's workforce was cut a few months ago- there's no way Curt would make a statement like that unless they had something fairly far along I'd hope. What I'd be more worried about than smoke and mirrors is that the Atari 800 didn't sell nearly as well as the 2600 in the 80's. For that reason I think heavy marketing saying it is an Atari 800 or even 5200 would be a really bad idea for the general market. I actually addressed this back in January. Here's what I wrote:

Thanks Curt, That's great news! (and just enough info to keep us foaming at the mouth)

Just wanted to keep this topic alive

Attack of the Mutant Penguins is a cart not a CD game. I use to have a very large Jaguar collection and this was one of my favs. I also liked: Tempest 2000 Power Drive Rally I-war (most people don't like this one) Breakout 2000 (a bit costly these days) Zero-5 (also a costly cart) I did own the CD unit and the only games I would ever play on it was Hoverstrike 2, Highlander and Iron Soldier 2. I never owned Primal Rage or Space Ace so I do not know how good they are.

Yes the magazines where fair on the Tempest 2000 reviews. I was originally going to say something about that, but I thought it would make what I was trying to say a bit confusing. There are some magazine articles that put the Jaguar in a good light, but on balance there seems to be more negative than positive. Heck, even Next Generation (December 1995) Asks "Is it really 64-bit?" and answers "Yes", and goes to explain why. (And explained it a lot like how Gorf has stated here I might add.) My real point here is, if the industry likes a system it down plays the negatives. However, if they don't like a system they always write articles that will end on a negative note. Here an example from the same article that asks "Is it really 64-bit?" (Left side of page in red under "Tech Specs:Jaguar"): "For the longest time, only Alien Versus Predator, Tempest 2000 and an outstanding conversion of Doom have merited a second glance. The machine's problems are compounded by its unattractive styling and an ungainly joypad." I think people will always be able to point to a magazine article from the day and say "That one wasn't that bad on the Jag". However again on balance they tend to be negative. (for what ever reason). BTW, I would like to thank all the tech people who have taken the time to post their views on this matter, because I have learned a lot about CPUs and data buses etc. It has definitely been educational.

I noticed a lot of chatter about the "is the Jaguar a 64-bit system?" debate going on. It seemed a little familiar, but it didn't hit me right away why. Before I put my two cents (or myself as a whipping post) in to this debate, I would like to say that I am not a programer or a hardware/software engineer. My background is in mechanical engineering. With that said, it is not my intent to offend, belittle, or hurt anybody with an opinion on this subject. I just have an opinion base on an observation that I believe is a touch different then what has been said thus far in this debate. Back to why I feel this is familiar territory in the video game industry. Back in 1989 I seem to remember a similar debate about the Turbo-Grafx 16. Was it an 8-bit system (because it used the same main cpu as the NES) or a 16-bit system (the graphic cpu was a custom built 16-bit). Being that this was before the world wide web, most of the industry was getting its information out via magazines. In turn the magazines were defining the industry for video gamers. When magazines first started talking about the TG16, they always pointed out it had a 16-bit graphics processor. Even NEC would advertise this point. From there ad: TurboGrafx-16 is the video game system that's built around a 16-bit graphics processor. Compared to the 8-bit systems you're used to,... Even though the magazines would say something like "While their Turbografx16, as it's being call in the U.S., is not a true 16-Bit," The magazine would go on and say "..it does offer the same types of mesmerizing graphics that are the most obvious trademark of any 16-Bit system." (taken from Electronic Gaming Monthly vol.1, number 2 august 31, 1989). Keep in mind the article in which this was stated is entitled "16-Bit System Preview". The same article goes on to say "..., the Turbografx is poised to take an early lead in the 16-Bit system wars!" In two instances they suggest to the reader that even though it is not a true 16-bit system, it should be considered as such because we think it looks like one. O.K. now you are probably thinking to yourself, "What the hell does this have to do with the Jaguar?". Simple, back when that stuff was written for the TG16, the people writing the articles liked the TG16. Over time (one or two issues) their magazines would stop stating that is not a true 16-bit, but keep putting the TG16 in the 16-bit sections of their magazines. This gave the impression to the consumers that it was a 16-bit system. As for Jaguar, the magazines hated it. Because of this, the magazine people would only push the negatives about the Jag. Which they seem to always point out that they didn't think the Jag system was a true 64-bit system, because they felt it wasn't good enough to be a 64-bit system. Unlike the TG-16 (which the mags stopped noting it wasn't a true 16-bit) they did not give the Jag the same treatment. So, in the console industry bittness seems to be what ever the industry deems it to be at that time. Now, in the PC world that is not the case. Bittness is pretty much standardized (through unwritten) in that industry. This is why I think so many people have different opinion on the 64-bit debate. The console industry just isn't standardized on the question of bittness.

are you the guy (Phil Boland) ,the one who made the jaguar arcade stick,i would really like one of them controllers if you ever make them again i would be very interested in a few of them actually thanks buddybuddies Yes, I am the same Phil Boland that made the jaguar arcade stick. Unfortunately I no longer have my jaguar stuff. That controller was pretty cool, but I do not have the parts to make anymore.