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What about those who did the hotel package deal?For the people who have asked this, we have decided we will also sell tournament entries at the pre-show party, so there is another way to get them (ticket sales are ending early tomorrow...). If you want the tournament package, it'll be $45.00 that night.
See you at the show!!
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Absolutely, 100% worth it!
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Hey everyone,
A quick reminder -- if you are planning on coming to the MGC and competing in the many pinball and arcade tournaments that will be held there (including the soon to be announced Midwest Video Championships, a PAPA-styled tournament featuring video arcades with the winner getting a full-sized arcade game!) you should pre-order the MGC Tournament Package to save some money. Here's what you get:
- A ticket to both days of the show
- A ticket to the pre-show party
- Two Midwest Pinball Championship entries
- One Pac-Mania Tournament entry
- Two lunch tickets at the Midwest Gaming Classic food counter
- Midwest Gaming Classic T-Shirt
This is quite a bit of savings, AND you get to start your tournament entries at 9:00 AM, one hour before the show opens! You'll get to play and be on the show floor before anyone else! Tickets are only available as pre-orders until the 27th, so order now to get your spot!
Pre-order Page is here:
http://www.midwestgamingclassic.com/content.php?id=tickets
Other than that, I hope to see everyone at the show. We've been working really hard (literally every free moment) to get this year's show the biggest and best it has ever been. There will be over 100 arcade and pinball games there on freeplay, tons of vendors for pinball and arcade parts as well as cartridges, CDs and so on. And of course, tons of displays like Jagfest, DreamCon, the Underdog Chamber, the Classic Gaming and Computing Museum and a bunch of speakers.
A special thanks to Albert and AtariAge for sponsoring and vending!
Hope to see you all at the show!
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The Xbox is a 32 bit system. Hell, the Xbox 360 is a 32 bit system.Actually, the 360 is 64-bit, it uses Power970s (AKA G5s) which are 64-bit native processors.
Ah crap, you're right. Said that without fact-checking, a rare thing for me...
In reality, the Jaguar was a 64 bit system. It doesn't matter what "the public" thinks. If they think that means it is way more powerful, they need to realize...The Xbox is a 32 bit system. Hell, the Xbox 360 is a 32 bit system.
Sorry, the accepted definition among computer engineers is very precise, and we refer to the general-purpose CPU (in this case the 68000), not the graphics chips or specialty processors.
So either the Jag fanboys are living in an alternate reality or they've changed the definition.
Actually, the accepted definition of what defines a machine is usually based on what size data can be passed. The Jaguar's GPU can access 64 bits of data if required. Now, if you knew anything about the Jaguar, you would know that there is basically no need to ever pass the Jaguar's GPU a 64 bit command, thus rending the "bit" rating even more pointless.
Besides that, the 68000 was not intended to be used in the Jaguar as the main processor. The designers of the console stated that the only reason they put the 68000 in there at all was to "read the joysticks." If that's the case and the GPU is doing the meat of the work like intended, wouldn't then the "general purpose CPU" become the GPU in reality, thus still giving us the answer of a 64-bit machine?
I've had quite a number of conversations with people who actually worked on the Jaguar, and the general consensus from them was that, in fact, the Jaguar was a 64 bit system in the purest sense of the word. It had the potential to do 64 bit things. The real source of the problems and debate over what the Jaguar "actually" was comes from the fact that Atari marketed it as if the difference in bits is what made a gaming console great. That's what I was trying to point out by the fact the Xbox is 32 bit. Atari (with help from Sega and Turbografx before them, but mostly by themselves) did such a good job convincing the general public that bits were so important, when the Jaguar failed to deliver the mind-blowing graphics and/or gameplay experience that people were expecting, instead of believing that the Jaguar's marketing scheme was crap and bits didn't really matter much, they believed that the Jaguar actually wasn't 64 bits at all. In reality, it didn't matter. The Jaguar was built to be a 2D powerhouse, but was released just in time for 3D games to become all the rage. And it had very little RAM, so it followed that even the 2D games on it weren't that impressive.
The Jaguar was a 64 bit machine because it could access 64 bits of data if required. It did not have a 64 bit CPU. While I am a Jaguar fan, I would hardly think that I'm a "fanboy" when it comes to this subject, although thank you for declaring me one. I've long hated the 'bit' myth about consoles, and I could truly care less what it has on board. 32-bits works just fine for me, as long as you make it powerful through other methods.
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In reality, the Jaguar was a 64 bit system. It doesn't matter what "the public" thinks. If they think that means it is way more powerful, they need to realize...
The Xbox is a 32 bit system. Hell, the Xbox 360 is a 32 bit system.
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After reading through this thread, I only have one comment about it...
Personally, even if it is determined that Air Raid is nothing more than a very short-run pirate cart, I think it will still hold most of its value thanks to the amount of collectors who have heard about it. Quite frankly, if I had my choice of seeing one rarity 10 cart in my life, even though I do fully believe that Air Raid is nothing more than some sort of pirate, proto or rip off, it would be the one that I would pick... it has the most interesting history to me out of all of them, and the mystery -- even if solved -- is one of the most fascinating Atari 2600 stories there are.
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I can't wait to meet everyone! There has been a lot of action going on lately behind the scenes, and we have a LOT of great things that we'll be announcing soon.
Something rather exciting that I can confirm right now... the main news page Albert said that we would have over 40 arcade and pinball games at the show... As of today, I can happily clarify -- there will be over 40 arcade videos, and over 40 pinballs. In fact, I expect the combined total to be well over 100 games right now. We'll see what happens as I can't guarantee exactly what will be there, but it should be awesome! I hope I get time to actually play something or another while I'm there
More info coming soon. Sign up at the Midwest Gaming Classic site to get mailed updates, if you'd like
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I haven't made too many message board updates for everyone, but if you haven't been watching the web site for the show, here are just a few things to get you thinking about it...
Of course, AtariAge will be there as one of the featured vendors, along with a wide variety of things from many, many other vendors for classic games, new games, and so on.
There will be a bunch of tournaments, including one where you can win a pinball machine!
There will be both a Jagfest and DreamCon event at the show, both will feature a ton of stuff.
The Underdog Chamber will debut, and will be the place to check out those consoles and games that time passed by. Look for some really neat additions to this soon!
There will be at least 40 different pinball / arcade machines at the event on freeplay that I know of right now. And usually, people tell me about these in the last couple weeks. We're expecting to have 75-125 of them overall.
Speakers for the show include Scott Adams from Adventure International, Benjamin Heckendorn of BenHeck.com and Ellen Lurie of Raven Software. And me saying hi. More are coming soon too!
As of yet unannounced, but you dan start to get excited about it now is that we'll be giving away an Xbox 360 with some games donated by Sega at the event to a lucky winner, and a lot of other goodies. Details on all of this will continue to come out at the show's web site.
The show is 21,000 square feet this year, almost 8,000 feet larger than last year's show, and at this point we are practically sold out of all space. The show is going to be a blast, and I hope to meet everyone there. The Midwest Gaming Classic is organized by a group of gamers who I can say officially have never made money on the show, and we're just looking to put together something fun for everyone -- not something that gaming companies will be proud of, not something the bank will be proud of, but something that gamers want to attend.
I hope that everyone really considers attending, and we'll see you there!
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Just as a heads-up, if anyone on here is looking at getting tables, please contact me as soon as possible. We are extremely close to selling out all of our table booths already. If you are interested in purchasing a booth or booths to vend from, please contact me via PM or email me at [email protected], and I'll be happy to make sure space is set aside for you.
Other than that, check out the Midwest Gaming Classic site for lots of news, including new sponsors, vendors, speakers and much, much more all the way leading into the event. I'm extremely excited about how the show is falling into place, and I can't wait until one month from today when the show begins! Hopefully, I'll see you all there!
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I'll be there
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What probably just happened is that you got a spoofed email and went to a site set up like eBay, and the reason it wouldn't let you log in is because they were monitoring your entries.
Go to eBay and change your information immediately.
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A short bump to say that I've added five more games. This may be it! If there are any more, it will be tomorrow.
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Thanks to the time that I spent recently doing nothing but playing the DS, I've decided that it's time to sell a bunch of the games that I have for it and I don't plan on playing again. I was thinking about collecting for the system, however I've decided to only hang onto games that I will play again. Therefore, I've got a bunch of games to sell
All of the prices do not include shipping. If after the game's name I write this logo (N) it means that I purchased it new, and I treat my new games extremely well. I will only make notes about anything if they are not in perfect condition. I also have replaced a few of the cases with brand new ones from Nintendo, so unless it says otherwise even the used games are pretty much minty.
I can take PayPal, money orders, checks or even credit cards. Shipping will be a flat $4.00 via Priority Mail no matter how much you get to the US. As usual, if you place a GOAT Store order I can throw in these games with no additional shipping charges to that. I am only really looking for money right now, unless you see something on my Dreamcast list (see signature) I'm looking for. PM me and I can get a total for you!
Nintendo DS
ATV Quad (N) - $12.00
Elf Bowling (N) - $15.00
FIFA Soccer '96 (N) - $15.00
Ford Racing 3 (N) - [ SOLD ]
Harry Potter (N) - $15.00
Lost in Blue - $35.00 (looks like new, but I wasn't the first owner)
Lunar: Dragon Song (N) - $24.00 (manual slightly bent, it was like this when I opened it)
Madagascar (N) - $16.00
Madden '05 (N) - [ SOLD ]
Marvel Nemesis: Rise of the Imperfects (N) - $12.00
Need for Speed: Most Wanted (N) - $15.00
Pac Man World 3 - $14.00 (this one is pretty ugly, actually. The box is great, but it has stickers on it from EB yet, the manual is slightly bent and the cart itself looks like it was chewed on by a kitten. That's how I got it )
Ping Pals - $6.00 (looks really good to me)
Real Time Conflicts: Shogun Empires (N) - $12.00
Robots (N) - $15.00
Scooby Doo: Unmasked (N) - $16.00
Sims 2 (N) - $14.00
Snood 2 (N) - [ SOLD ]
Tiger Woods PGA Tour - [ SOLD ]
Trace Memory - $16.00 (Everything is in great condition except the case, which I will send along a free brand new, straight from Nintendo replacement for. So you get two cases with this one -- a not so good one and a new one -- unless you want me to just toss the original one)
Urbz - $12.00 (EB was kind enough to put a sticker on this one's manual, so it has a rip in it from when I tried to get it off. Other than an ugly manual, it's in pretty good shape.)
Whac-A-Mole - $12.00 (Everything is in good condition, although the case still has EB Stickers on it.)
Yoshi: Touch and Go (N) - [ SOLD ]
Zoo Tycoon DS - $14.00 (The case insert is a little worn and the manual has something on it, but the game looks new)
I may have a few more that I'll be adding within the next couple days, so stay tuned!
GameBoy Advance
Dexter's Laboratory: Chess Challenge - $5.00 (cart only)
Golden Nugget Casino (N) - $5.00
Golden Sun: Lost Ages (still new and in perfect condition) - I paid $10.70 for it, and I'm happy to part with it for the same amount (which means if you're using PayPal, I'll need the amount they'll take away from me to break even, so we can chat.)
Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories (N) - $18.00 (the box for this was a display box and has a little bit of wear thanks to it. Nothing horrible though.)
Mario Vs. Donkey Kong (N) - $15.00 (This was purchased new, but it didn't have the box and the instructions are kine of in not-so-great condition. Think of this as "cart only" and that's good.)
Midway: Arcade's Greatest Hits (N) - $5.00 (While I got this new, that couldn't stop someone from appearing to have sat on the box before I got it
)NHL 2002 - $25.00 (this is cart only. There appears to be a slight rub mark on the cart. But hey, it's super rare!)
Pokemon Sapphire - $15.00 (Looks like it got dotted by a red marker, cart only.)
Super Monkey Ball (N) - $10.00
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So again, what the hell are you talking about? Is this just something else out of your ass like "only oval button Saturns can be modded"? If I took apart a bunch of common NES carts, desoldered their CIC chips, put them on my own circuit board, and put an entirely original game on the board with it, what could Nintendo or anyone do about it?Wow, holy crap. Calm down.
First off, to answer your "talking out of your ass" concern about the Saturn, I was under the impression that the case was that you could only mod the first generation. You in that thread stated that was incorrect, and I believe you.
What I meant by that was about the CIC/10NES chip. While there are tons of them around in all of the cartridges released, making a new cartridge with this properitary chip -- which I do believe has not expired yet -- isn't legal. The way that the DMCA covers "Circumvention of Technological Protection Measures" means that if a person were to use the same chip without Nintendo's permission (if it is under patent rights still, as I do believe it is), that is not legal. The exceptions that the DMCA make about it makes no mention of reusing parts.
While it is legal to use something that you have purchased in a way that you want too -- for instance, modding your own console -- it is not legal under the a strict interpertation to mod your console and then sell it, even if the content that is included on it is all legal stuff. By that interpertation, taking a Nintendo cartridge, desoldering and resoldering the CIC/10NES chip onto a new cartridge with new data on it would still make using the CIC/10NES chip an unauthorized use of properitary parts from Nintendo, and therefore you couldn't do it.
Copying the chips from a third party cartridge would probably be legal under the DMCA, although those chips would probably be ruled illegal by the DMCA now, as they fall directly under the Circumvention portion mentioned before.
The final part, and something that I know firsthand is that you do not need to _prove_ that your rights were infringed under the DMCA to shut down a company. You can state that they were infringed and until you can prove otherwise, you have to stop distribution. A smaller place could not face Nintendo in court just due to legal matters.
As to why most of the NES clones are still illegal is because of just what you mentioned -- on top of all of the aspects above working against new NES software, they are using hacked versions of software that Nintendo released, which means that they are obviously against the rules.
So that's what I meant. I hope that this will help explain what I meant. By the way, if you're interested in checking out a summary of the DMCA to see exactly where I'm getting this from, you can check it out a "summary" of it (only 18 pages long) here:
http://www.copyright.gov/legislation/dmca.pdf
I've gone through a lot of legal things because of that strange law over the last few years, and I base a lot of my thinking on it. If I'm wrong, I'd love it as I'd love there to be some new NES games released legally via homebrew or independent developers. But as far as I know, the DMCA / Nintendo will stop it.
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I'd say it's around $10 - $15 more than the standard model. It is rarer than the original, but the addition of that Sega Sports logo seems to make less people want it.
The controllers are worth more, as people like to try to get a set of four for their Dreamcasts. Having said that, they aren't worth much more.
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There were wireless controllers made for the Dreamcast, but they were the old standard and besides the fact that they didn't work very well, the ergonomic design of them was absolutely horrible. I picked up a pair in Milwaukee for another collector who really wanted them, but even with my insane Dreamcast collection and my love for wireless controllers, I would never want a set myself.
There were extension cords made by a few different companies. They look like this:
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Nintendo's patent on the NES hardware has expired, so they are legal. It is not legal however to copy their cartridge format, thus their problem with homebrews.
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I have one of the Halo edition Xbox's, and my system also has a super loud fan. I too had always wondered why people complained about the Dreamcast, when that system only seems to make loud noises when it is loading the games, and my Xbox makes a noise about the same loudness constantly, which is definitely from the fan. It doesn't bother me too much, but I can hear the Xbox if it was left on while I'm upstairs because of it.
It doesn't bother me enough to even think about doing anything with it though. When I'm playing a game, the fan just becomes white noise and I don't really hear it any more.
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It's just one website's opinion, ya know.
Just because it's in print doesn't give it any more value than any other Fair and Balanced news source.Lik-Sang is selling a European version for $25 here. You could probably run that one if you bring your own 120v power adapter. Shipping from HK will add to the cost though; might as well stick with Yobo or Ebay at those prices.
While I agree with that, a web site saying that (and I quote) "While Messias had a huge flop with the expensive NESX console," is a site that I will automatically write off as not fact-checking. The pictures look interesting, but I'm not going to take their opinions on anything with any value. I do the same thing with reviews of games. If someone says that, "Gran Theft Automobile is a horrible game because all that it consists of is raping hookers" I'm not going to trust anything they say. If they spell it right and explain the reasons they don't like the game or system (or whatever), that's fine.
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To me, this is proof that anything that anyone can write up anything, put it up on the web and make it look official.
In the blurb that they wrote, they spelt Messiah wrong as well as called their system the NESX when they say that it was a "huge flop." Why would anyone believe a news article from a site where two easy to find facts are dead wrong and could've been researched in two minutes?
The Retrocon looks nice, but I would want to hear about it from someone else before I would even think about getting such a thing.
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The only console that will output better than a TV screen is the Dreamcast using a VGA adaptor I believe. Otherwise using a VGA converter or a TV tuner will end up with the same resolution, just gotten to in two different ways.
If you're playing the Dreamcast as one of your consoles, get a VGA box for it. The graphic quality is amazing.
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The store that I run also has a very limited selection of stuff, but we try to get in more whenever we can.
I'll say this much about Turbografx-16 stuff -- no matter what we get in stock, it sells almost immediately. The only exception seems to be Keith Courage. Good luck with a collection! I've been interested in it all since it seems to fly off the shelves so quickly
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For the US, I'd say that a fair price for a bare system with the proper controllers is probably around $40-$50 if you're buying it from a store. From an individual, offering $30-40 would probably be fair.
Not having the controllers is a definite disadvantage, as the Sega controllers were very sweet. By the way, for a note with them the first system (not round buttons) can be modded to play imports. The second system (round buttons) cannot be, but has the preferred controllers. If they are sold as a set, they fetch about the same price due to the differences.
I've got two in stock right now at the GOAT Store (one for $50 and one for $45, both system 2's with round buttons) and I can barely keep them in stock. I've had these two for about a month, which is probably the longest that I've any in stock. It's a GREAT system with a lot of awesome games!
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Bid Pay is gone? Interesting. I had to use them a few times, and their system was SO broken that I couldn't imagine how they would last. I had a problem once and I contacted them to find out what I could do with a seller who was refusing to send my stuff. They said that it was buyer beware, and they couldn't stop them or force the buyer to do anything, and that I couldn't go back on my payments to them because they provided me with the service they had promised which was just delivering a money order.
My credit card company told me that I could cancel the payment though since I never saw the goods, nor the money order and couldn't get the money back. When I contacted BidPay with that information, they told me the same stuff above. I nicely told them that they should require seller's credit card information and if there was a problem, they could threaten to take them money from the seller's credit card on file. They told me they didn't think that was fair.
That was the end of me using BidPay. Good riddance, and hopefully in the future a new place will have a better way to do it.
(rant over)
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Remember everyone too, if you pre-bought your tickets or are staying at the Olympia, there is the "official" preshow party on Friday night in our suite. We'll have early entry tournament forms on sale, discount shirts before the show, video games set up to play and much more! Time is 7-10, and if you preordered (and this is for vendor too, so hope everyone stops by!) you will get the location information soon.
I'll probably stop by the AA suite on Saturday, but I believe a second night thing may be going on in our suite, this time from the pinball realm.