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The GOAT Store has started running some new specials. If you are interested, stop here -- http://www.goatstore.com/mon_spec.htm -- and check them out. Great deals on NUON, Lynx, 3DO and Dreamcast to start out with. For those of you on the specials mailing list, sorry for only sending you information about the NUON special. Something messed up with our email generator

Actually, most 3DO controllers were metal too, as they used the connector itself as another control device (for sound, I believe).

Technically, any Jaguar game will work on any Jaguar system, regardless of if the user has a PAL set or a NTSC set. One of the very nice things about the Jaggy. The GOAT Store has some copies of Doom :wink:

My personal favorites are also the Quickshot controllers, although if you are rough on your system you can snap the joystick right off the end of it The TAC-2's are awesome ("Totally Accurate Controller with 2 buttons"), but the joysticks are a little stiff for some people's tastes. If you like the style of the original joysticks, but don't like how often they tend to break, Gemstik Joysticks look and feel like a more substantial version of the original, with a more comfortable button to hit.

Designed by VM Labs, a NUON enhanced DVD player is a DVD player which can also utilize special NUON enhanced features on certain disks, as well as play a handful of games. VM Labs recently sold the technology and folded, but Tempest 3000 from Jeff Minter may be found on the system, as well as a wonderful racer in Merlin Racing. If you're interested in the games, check out the GOAT Store Also, I would _not_ suggest getting Space Invaders XL under any circumstances. It is by far the worst "game" that the NUON has.

I think that because of how many outstanding Dreamcast games there are, there are many, many more than 3 that we still haven't missed I'll toss in a few more: Arcades Greatest Hits Vol. 1 and 2 (two seperate games) NFL 2K series NFL Blitz 2000 Crazy Taxi II Alien Front Online Mars Matrix Gigawing 2 There are literally hordes of really fun Dreamcast games!

How is Gauntlet, anyways? I've played a lot of the stuff through emulators, but they never seem to quite recreate the actual game. Ram It is a perfect example... Anywho... anyone?

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Hello, Been doing a little bit of thank-gosh-October-is-almost-over cleaning at the GOAT Store and I've got a box filled with oodles of gaming stuff that doesn't work or that we simply don't carry. Is anyone interested in any of the following stuff: Atari 2600 Telegames unit (broken) Aura Interactors (broken, maybe) Tons of random cords Tons of random broken controllers Jaguar CD broken and in peices I'd like to send this all to someone in one shot. I'm looking for the cost of shipping plus perhaps a buck to cover packaging costs. If you are interested, please email me at [email protected] First email gets it

The Post Office has every right to ask you what is inside the boxes that you are sending. If you go to an airport and the bag that you put through the scanner needed to be looked at by hand, but you didn't want to show them the contents, they could refuse you entry. Remember, the USPS is a business and was not just created for you. While they are performing a job, they need to make sure that everyone stays as safe as possible. Things like Media Mail were created as a special service which, if the service is abused will simply be discontinued. I go to different Post Offices all of the time, and usually none of them bother to ask me what is inside the packages anymore. They know me and what I'm sending too well. The few times that they do ask I figure it to be quicker to just respond right away than bicker about why they are asking. From personal experiances, I only ship things Priority Mail. It has free packaging materials. I would much rather get a sturdy box than a bubble-wrapped envelope. I / The GOAT Store, LLC has never had a problem charging people the actual cost of Priority Mail for their orders.

Samba De Amigo!!! Even if you don't much care for dancing games, you've got to try it. It was my first introduction to the genre and it is now one of my top ten games of all time. For most played, I played NBA 2K1 to death... A full 82 game season and then all of the playoffs. I have never played any other game (with the possible exceptions of Super Mario Bros. 3 and Earthbound) nearly as much. I would also have suggest these: Jet Grind Radio -- innovative and hard, would've bought an XBox if Jet Grind Future was half as good of a sequel as the original Smash Pack Vol. 1 -- for the die-hard classic gamer in everyone Gauntlet Legends -- nothing like taking on the baddies with three good friends. Perhaps the most fun DC multiplayer game. Tony Hawks Pro Skater 2 -- the best in the series, I think. Dead or Alive 2 -- beleive it or not, I like DoA2 a _lot_ more than Soul Calibur... it's all taste though. If you're interested, the GOAT Store has some decently priced Dreamcast games and (*hint, hint* :wink: ) if you sign up on the specials list, you will be receiving an offer within the next couple weeks for Smash Pack New for really cheap

You know, if Sega had actually produced a half-arsed sequel to the original, awesome Jet Grind Radio, I would be all over that package (need... a... DVD... player) but Sega sacrificed the main thing that I loved about it. As for racing, I'll stick with the original Sega GT or Metropoliton Street Racer for time being. There's a NUON somewhere that seems to be calling my name...

Are we going for actual working products or simply prototypes? The Atari Jaguar could interface with the Atari Lynx. In fact, AvP was originally going to have the option of using the Lynx as your Alien tracker. Prototype Lynx links have been found... somewhere... Also, the Jaguar had the first system voice modems too, but those never got beyond prototype phase. And a VR system. And a network system. Oh yeah, that was released (CatBox). From what I have heard, this is actually pretty far from the truth. Remember, the Dreamcast had the best launch (easily!) of any system to date when it came out in the States. Who can forget the 9/9/99 advertisements? Moving, what? 900,000 systems in one day was a very good thing. The problem was Sega was never committed to the Dreamcast. After the Saturn flopped like a fish out of water, the Dreamcast was supposed to be trashed. But it wasn't. Supposedly, it was some VP's baby, and he basically forced the idea. Then he stepped down in January of 2001 and Sega immediately dropped the 'Cast. Sega's timing was too off for it to be actually dropped due to stiff competition. People were actually returning PS2's to get Dreamcasts. January of 2001 _before_ the announcement was on track to be the highest or second highest sales month for the Dreamcast ever. Right at this time was when Sega pulled the plug. None of it made or makes any sense. The only reason that Sega had at all for pulling the plug was the honest reason that the pirates had really dug into their game profits. I've been told that Half-Life is sitting somewhere 100% complete right now, but unreleased because they were too worried that it wouldn't turn a profit due to piracy. The Dreamcast is a wonderful little machine whose time came waaaaaay too early. I honestly believe that it could've competed in the current marketplace.

Does anyone know what type of glue was used to attach those Activision labels and why they plaqued so badly? I've always wondered, but never did any research...

True. Perhaps I'm a little bit too optomistic, but we've had people's checks bounce on us who come back six months later and say, "Oh no! We owe you some money!" I would hope Junie does the same thing. Our Web site was temporarly put on all of the banned parental controls Web sites because it said, "hard on." *shrug* All righty, I'll stop posting about this now... Just wanted to keep my $0.02 in there...

That's no big problem. If you ever want a new copy of Burning Soldier, Fun N Games, Guardian War or Wicked 18, we're your place! (By the way, for those of you playing along at home both Burning Soldier and Guardian War are awesome games, and the JP2X controllers are my personal faves for the 3DO... but I digress...) In my experiance, it is more about knowing your audience than promoting yourself in multiple ways. Once you have learned your audience, you promote yourself to that audience in whatever is the way that you find to best fit. The GOAT Store, LLC would definitely not survive as a regular storefront -- the items that we carry are too limited in appeal. For us to become a storefront with any hope of survival, we would need to carry at least some items for the newer systems like the PS2, Xbox and Gamecube. We have to face it, Atari just doesn't have the masses coming out and splurging like the new stuff. Those products are extremely expensive and in a constant state of flux with the way that prices go. One week, I could get five used copies of Metal Gear Solid 2 to sell for $20.00 apiece, and I plan to sell them for $40.00. The next week, right as I put these out Sony decides to drop the price of the game to $20.00. It is specifically for that reason that we don't carry newer systems.

Cassidy, Partially true. I don't necessarly agree with you about the antiques or cars analogies though. You have no guarantee that your antique or car will appreciate in value. In this hobby alone, remember a few years ago before OShea's started selling all of the old 2600 stock they have? I remember seeing Pac Man Jr selling for over $25.00 used. From a personal level, with many items there just are not that many people looking for them. The GOAT Store has a whole ton of old 3DO games, NIB, but we can't even sell them for what we bought them for because after we sold the first ten, there was no more market. Anyone want to get some bulk 3DO games?!?

Thank you Stan Jr! This is exactly true about most small 'obsolete' gaming businesses. Unless they have an insane amount of incredible turns for them, it is nearly impossible to break even or make money doing it as a hobby. As of right now, the GOAT Store, LLC has a good amount of assets, but we literally bought as we went. We started out in debt approximately $3000, and we are still in most of the debt. Considering that we've been around for over four years, if we didn't love the hobby we would've both gone for free time first. Since Junie's business required him producing everything himself (besides running the Web site, experimenting with products, etc) he would've had even less time than we do. Since he also was starting up, I'm sure that he had more expenses than a more established business has (starting up takes more money than maintaining and/or growing, believe it or not.) [/i]

Hey, I'm not trying to start a war. It is just a possibility. There has been a lot of stuff thrown around anti-Junie, and I'm just trying to counteract that a little bit with some reason, in hopes that Junie reappears. If he doesn't, perhaps I'm wrong, but I'm going to reserve judgement. You said in an earlier post that "an incentive could be produced." All I was pointing out is that if he is bankrupt, he may not be forced to repay his loans. I don't know if he is, nor do I want to speculate. I also don't know if he was a legal business or not... oesii made this comment -- "Anyway, I'd be more comfortable ordering something in stock or I'll pay when it's ready to ship not months before." Just another bit of counteracting... Gary and I would build our JAMMA line-up only after we were paid the money for it because the part cost was insanely high. If we were to build two of each stick to have ready to go, it would've cost us over $300.00. Small businesses cannot take hits such as that. If the demand is ultra-high, and 100 people want something that costs $40.00 apeice to build, it is very hard to just magically make $4000.00 dollars appear to satisfy the demand. In the underground homebrew scene, neither solution is a "good" solution for either side. Hope this makes a little more sense and clarifys my points some.

If you are dead-set on getting either a PS2 or an XBox, I would suggest waiting until the end of Novemver as they are rumored to be dropping another $50 or so dollars. I have decided that when I end up having to get a DVD player that I will probably pick up one of these systems (if not a NUON). Currently, my choice is the PS2 because of a select few games like Metal Solid and the fact that I could play my PS1 library on it (I don't have a PS1, yet I have Tempest X, Robotron and Sheep for it when I get it...) The XBox lineup has actually been tempting me more and more lately. I really like the Dead or Alive series, so DoA3 is still a big draw for me, although it isn't that big of an upgrade over DoA2. DoA2 for the 'Cast is my favorite Dreamcast fighter. Admittedly, I am at least interested in DoA Volleyball (or whatever) because I have always enjoyed volleyball games dating back to Kings of the Beach for the NES, although it looks like less of a game than a swimsuit / porn flick. We'll have to wait to see my final judgement on that... As of right now, I'm still leaning towards a NUON, believe it or not. Tempest 3000, Merlin Racing and Ballistic make three games that I'm interested in, and that is (sadly) more than both PS2 or Xbox. Of course, if it is specifically for playing games, I want a Nintendo Gamecube. Between Super Monkey Ball 1 & 2 and Metroid (again, if it lives up to the hype), it's got me hooked. If you are just looking for a great system with good graphics, try out a Dreamcast. It is the only "new generation" system that I own, and I can't get enough of it. 239 domestic games, about 30 imports and the best cost make the 'Cast my easy number one choice.

Thanks everyone for the information! The paragraph from the paper reads: The first attempt to utilize an Internet-like feature on a console system was a small company called Control Video Corporation in 1983 with their GameLine adapter for the Atari 2600. According to the packaging of the GameLine, the “Master Module” would “bring an endless stream of video games into your home – through your telephone!” In the future, the packaging promised, “the Master Module turns your video game console into a communications terminal (Scans: GameLine).” Unfortunately, the GameLine was released in June of 1983, right about the same time that the video game crash occurred (Third Party Profile: Control Video Corporation). The GameLine never caught on, and many of the ideas that had been presented through its service were never delivered. All of the knowledge gained by the GameLine experiment was not lost. The president of Control Video Corporation was William F. Von Meister, who went on to found America Online (Third Party Profile: Control Video Corporation).

Just to be technical here, and I'm not trying to look too deep into the issue as I actually don't know what is really going on, if a business goes bankrupt and they have taken pre-orders, they are under no obligation to fufill any outstanding orders for customers. It is one of the crappy things about going bankrupt. That having been said, I'm not just trying to be noble or stick up for Junie. I'm just stating that he was honest with me -- a third party -- about a lot of this stuff approximately a month ago, so I hope that he comes through for everyone. I really hope that he gets back on his feet as we planned on giving him the plans for our JAMMA Joystick line-up (which we stopped production of because it was both too time consuming and expensive...)

I have had many dealings with Junie, from the fact that he made the Mr. Roboto carts for Paul and shipped them to me for the Midwest Classic and we have talked business strategies quite a bit. I most recently talked with Junie about a month ago via email. He acknowledged to me that he was quite behind on his orders and that had fallen on some rough financial times. As was already noted, he had been having computer problems at the same point in time. He was hoping to get back on track within about a month. Standing in his shoes, I can understand how tough this is to deal with. At one point in time, the GOAT Store server went out of business and the information that Gary and I needed to run the business was nearly lost. We ended up shipping approximately 20 orders to people for free because we had lost any way to verify if we had actually received money for them or not. It must be remembered that Junie's Creations was a Web site of entirely homebrewed items at ridicolously low prices. These items can take hours to create, and with everything else that seems to have fallen on Junie's shoulders, I personally can understand why he has fallen so far behind in his orders. For everyone that has purchased something from him but has yet to receive it, I would suggest emailing him at [email protected] one more time. Give him a few weeks to respond, and hopefully you will be able to work something out. From my discussions with him, I can't imagine that he would ever purposely try to screw someone over.

Could someone do me a favor... I remember reading somewhere about a program started in Flordia I think where gamers could "rent" games by downloading them via a phone cable into their Atari 2600. I'm working on a paper detailing the evolution of games and the internet, and I'd like to get some more information on this. Anyone?

In my opinion, nudity does have a place in some video games, but it hasn't yet grown into "its own" yet. Many of the greatest movies have included sex in them, so why is it that video games cannot? I agree that adding a naked people into a game for the sake of getting attention isn't probably the correct way to do things, but I think that games will only grow in content by being allowed to do anything. And if you don't like it, don't buy it. If enough people don't buy it, companies will get the idea.