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I've got the Hong Kong 410 without the handle. I bought a belt replacement kit with 4 belts from console5. I saw a few mentions of people having issues replacing the rewind belt. I couldn't find much on it, but I was able to successfully replace the rewind belt, and it wasn't that difficult, so I figured I'd post instructions and a few pictures to help other out. Disassemble the 410 down to the player internals. Remove the circuit board, but I'd recommend against removing the tape heads. I now need to reset the azimuth, but I guessed and it loads tapes. If you need to remove the play head, just remove the screw on the right, and slide the play head out from the spring/washer/screw on the left. Once you get down to the mechanical portion, the main belt, and the two that drive the counter are fairly easy to switch. The rewind belt is a little more interesting. First, rotate the left spindle, pushing on the top to give a bit of slack. Use a small flatblade screwdriver to pull the belt up. Once the belt is freed from the left spindle, it'll still seem trapped around another pulley under the center of the deck. Now, flip over the mechanical deck. On the left, there is a white plastic nut. Use a flat blade screwdriver to rotate the nut. It should then slide up and off the spindle. With the nut off, you should be able to slide the white arm up and off the peg. At this point, you should be able to free the white arm, which has the smaller hidden spindle. There is a red cap that makes getting the old belt out and the new belt in a little interesting, But, once the new belt is wrapped around this spindle, you should be able to reverse the instructions to re-insert the arm, feeding the belt through to the other side. After the arm is reinstalled, flip the unit over and slide the belt around the left spindle. After I did this, my deck seems to play and rewind perfectly. I didn't realize I shouldn't mess with the azimuth screw, so even though the deck seems to load most tapes fine, I really need to get an azimuth adjustment tape to dial it in. The best advice is to go slow and don't force anything, take pictures as you go if you don't trust your memory.
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A long, LONG, time ago, on a computer, now dead, and another, and another, and 2 laptops, and finally on a USB drive, also now dead, I put together an instructional guide to taking apart a 410 drive, with emphasis on simplicity, and allowing for a couple improvements and repairs. It has been months since then, but the effort to put the guide out never died, and now today, I can release the guide in a photographic step-by-step format, in numerical order, with sudo-progressive sections, featuring a new solution to drive mechanism stuttering, a comparison of an old, used model, and a new-in-box, old-stock model drive, an electronics repair and problem-analysis section with documentation, and a more condensed, re-assembly guide. I would like to do a complete analysis of the head alignment procedure, and electronics replacement\upgrade\repair with my new oscilloscope, as described in the official documentation, which is included in this guide, and I had intended on making a version of this guide as a video, so I will combine them, but free-time is short right now, so it will have to wait. IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT NEW BELTS WORK BETTER THAN OLD ONES, SO IF YOU CAN AFFORD IT, YOU SHOULD GET THEM HERE: http://atariage.com/forums/topic/260645-atari-cassette-belts-now-available-1010-410-xc12/ You will also note that the older model drive in this guide is using a few elastics in place of belts, this is not a permanent solution, and should only be used in a pinch, or in a testing situation where the belts would be subject to considerable use, for the sake of your precious belts! I hope it helps at least 1 person, then my effort is worth it. You will need 7-Zip, or another archiving program to extract the files. There are no programs or viruses in these archives, only pictures, text, and pdf. I take no responsibility for what you do, or fail to do, with this guide. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK! And enjoy! http://www.4shared.com/archive/LlNW5P2uca/Final_Cut.html http://www.4shared.com/archive/UonUWLLsei/re-assembly.html http://www.mediafire.com/file/dzd8ks7j7o38boe/Final_Cut.7z http://www.mediafire.com/file/wpjqbzpa34qlj8x/re-assembly.7z
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Hey guys, I have. Bunch of excess stuff I got in a lot I bought. To my knowledge nothing works. I really don’t want to break it up and sell it as a lot. Otherwise I am afraid I may have to take it to the recycler. (I am running out of room) 400 Computer 410 Tape Drive Ape Face Interface MPP modem Koala Pad Light Pen Joysticks 4 port joystick tap. I am winning to give this away to anyone that wants to pay the shipping.
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Hello everyone! Okay, so I know this isn’t a topic about the 5200. I just couldn’t find the right place for my post. I am new here and my husband and I have an Atari 800 (1979). We also have a 410 program recorder. Both he owned since new. We just replaced the belts on the 410 recorder and got it fired up. But we are having a few issues. 1) I put a blank cassette in, started at the beginning of the magnetic strip, and put the Program counter to zero. I was able to record the program I was working on, but when it comes to CLOAD ‘ing the program, the 410 recorder will throw a few different codes. 143, 138, 29 and 130. Since my husband is the original owner we luckily have the original owner’s guide for the 410. Inside it said that (codes 143, 138) the head of the tape deck needed to be either demagnetized or cleaned. So, I popped in a demagnetizing tape, and a head cleaner. Plus I did a traditional head clean with rubbing alcohol and a q-tip. We then ran a traditional cassette inside the program recorder with the POKE command, (to eliminate head issues) and it did manage to play music through the television. The audio was clear. So we again tried CLOAD ‘ing the program I CSAVE ‘ed with our system, and still received the same codes. We also tried several other cassette games and it was the same issue with the same codes. After CSAVE ‘ing it will display the “Ready” prompt. But will continue to struggle to load anything. Has anyone else had this issue? Or could offer pointers on why it is unable to load anything? We just replaced the original CPU/GTIA in our Atari 800 and it plays games beautifully. Plus it will read the programs I create in BASIC. The computer works great. So please note this appears to be an issue with the 410 program recorder only. Or could it be something else? 2) The other issue is... The rewind button is not working on the 410 recorder either. We have been using another tape deck to rewind. We did replace the belts, did one slip? Also, I have inserted my cassette with the Recorded program (only) into a standard cassette deck and it will make the typical screeching. So the program is there. let me know your thoughts on all of this. I am looking forward to saving programs.
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Hey There, If anyones interested, - Ive got a Stock of belts/kits available for - 1010 models (both Japan and Hong Kong), XC12, and also 410 kits on Ebay, Listings here (UK) - http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/sandimas666/m.html?item=122297041305&hash=item1c7978c199%3Ag%3A6okAAOSwopRYa7n2&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562 Outside UK - http://www.ebay.com/sch/sandimas666/m.html?item=122297041305&hash=item1c7978c199%3Ag%3A6okAAOSwopRYa7n2&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562 Anyone who is interested, but doenst use/like ebay/evilbay , can get these direct from me alternatively. just pm me for details. Those who have asked recently for these to be avialable, i have contacted (as promised) to notify as when these are (now) available, cheers Magic Knight
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When it’s a camouflaged storage box. It took me years of careful deliberation before I could gut one of my 410 Data Cassette Recorders. I finally came to the conclusion that I wasn't going to replace the belts just so I could play "Sammy the Sea Serpent". Why not put the case to good use and have it out on display? My original thought was to turn it into a bank. Put a coin in front of the cassette door and have a hand reach out and grab the coin. Then I couldn't believe how nicely a tray from my jewelry box fit into the bottom but my wife wasn't sure if she wanted it on the dresser(or maybe she was). I just ended up putting some felt in the bottom and some dividers for general use. I'm going to organize a collection of thumb drives, flash drives, Sony memory sticks, SD cards and a reader. What ever it was going to become, I wanted it to look like a functioning 410 Recorder when the top was closed. These are some photos taken as the build progressed. 1. Opened up 410. Removed four screws on the bottom. 2. Remove guts. 3. Salvage parts. I used the supply spindle and take-up spindle and tape counter. 4. Remove inside plastic pegs and supports that are in the way. Dremel tool and sand paper. 5. Trim the spindle shafts and super glue the parts together. Then insert them into the cassette holder from the bottom and glued. (I trimmed the disks for no good reason and don't think I would do it again.) After a cassette was placed in the holder, the tooth picks are jammed into the latches to keep the cassette door from opening. 6. Simulate the counter. Place the counter on your scanner and make a decent copy of the wheels. (use some white paper as a mask to save some ink). Cut out the numbers and tape in place. The push button was made by gluing a piece of scrap plastic over the hole, trim off a length of the black button and glue it in place. 7. Double sided tape is holding the felt in place and some dividers make of Jumbo Popsicle Sticks were cut, glued and placed on the felt. Now that I think about it, maybe I should take out the felt and sticks and mount a SIO2SD unit inside. Then rig the cassette keys as navigation buttons. I wonder how the display would look mounted in the cassette door.?
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Hi, I just got an 800 system, with some accessories, but the tape drive doesn't work. Occasionally I'll get a vague noise when I press rewind, but even that is infrequent. It won't play when I type "CLOAD" in the prompt. I looked inside it, and the belts aren't broken. I'm thinking that I'll just cannibalize the SIO cable for a SIO2Arduino build--the drive isn't in particularly good shape, and looking on Ebay, SIO cables aren't that much less than a new 410 or even 1010. I also have a disk drive that sounds like it works (I haven't actually got any 5.25 disks yet), so I'd only use the tape drive to download programs from a PC, with the SIO2Arduino would solve. But I'd appreciate any opinions. Thanks.
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Just unearthed these two beasts/beauties too. Have no PSUs but the 410 comes built in with an SIO cable. Just a fiver each, please - £5 each or take both for £9. Postage expected to be £4 UK, rest of the world somewhat more - please mail me for a quote together with your location. Note - totally untested as I don't have PSUs for either. That's it - thanks for looking and all the best. BAZ
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I recently bought one off of ebay, but I looked around online and heard there was a design flaw that ruins the belt and creates a kink. It's also loose and doesn't rewind or fast forward properly. I tested a hair tie in it, and while it would rewind, it wouldn't play anything. So I'm wondering what dimensions I need. I found a website that sells these kinds of belts, just need the size. I heard it was 8.6" square or something like that, just wanted to make sure.
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Hello everyone, I'm new to the forum, but like pretty much everyone else, grew up on ATARI and haven't ever really left it. I have alot of software on cassette, but my 410 program recorder has given up the ghost recently. Anyone out there have a working ATARI 410, 1010 or XC11/12 cassette drive that they're willing to part with? I've checked CL & ebay of course, but every ad is for a non-working (for parts) or "untested" unit, which I have to assume means "not working". I am willing to pay (not top dollar) of course, as long as you can confirm that it does work (load and save programs). Please let me know if we can work something out. Thanks!
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I have an Atari 410 that is probably in need of new motor to run the mechanics. I did check to see if any of the bands had come loose but they were all in place. There does seem to be power going into the unit because it sends a garbled signal to my XE computer but the mechanics simply do not move to run the tape. Atari 410 test.mpg