EmOneGarand #26 Posted February 13, 2007 Is there an eBay rule against using a third part bid submitter? If so, it's news to me. No, it's just ethics.. how would you like it if your winning and you've been making the time to make sure you won when out of the blue somebody else wins because they set up an outside program to artificially place a bid at the very last second (making it impossible to compete). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EmOneGarand #27 Posted February 13, 2007 Let me put it this way... what if SS4U used this program? Putting in his rediculously high max bids and you can never win would that be fair? The computer program would always be ahead of you so you can't beat it, that is an unfair advantage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+remowilliams #28 Posted February 14, 2007 No, it's just ethics.. how would you like it if your winning and you've been making the time to make sure you won when out of the blue somebody else wins because they set up an outside program to artificially place a bid at the very last second (making it impossible to compete). I know what your trying to get at, but no matter what its this simple - the highest bid wins. Doesn't matter if its put in automatically (via ebay proxy bidding or a third party) or manually in the last ten seconds of an auction or three days before. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ls650 #29 Posted February 14, 2007 how would you like it if your winning and you've been making the time to make sure you won when out of the blue somebody else wins because they set up an outside program to artificially place a bid at the very last second And indeed, this used to happen to me, until I started sniping also. If you don't like being sniped, snipe back. Let me put it this way... what if SS4U used this program? The computer program would always be ahead of you so you can't beat it, that is an unfair advantage. I regularly use esnipe.com _against_ SS4U... as do others... but no one seems to complain when we bet him! I think esnipe is actually very beneficial to everyone, including the losing bidders. Why? Because it takes all the emotional crap out. "Oh that other guy is outbidding me by 50 cents... just a dollar more... oh no, he's outbidding me again..." etc. Now, you just put in your best bid and walk away. If you win, you win. If you lose, ah well, there's a lot less emotional connection. I think 'esnipe'-type sites are great... and I recommend that everyone use them. No more bidding wars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Atari Dogs #30 Posted February 14, 2007 I got 2 new controllers for $9.99 - team tap White Man Cant Jump here I come! Of course I need 3 more friends I got Theme Park from him. After won, I e-mailed him though e-bay twice if I could buy one controller from him. I told him I already have three controllers, so having a bidding on his two controller auctions gives me an extra one. He never got back to me, so I just paid for the one game. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broonale #31 Posted February 14, 2007 I like sniping in person. Using software takes all the fun out of it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ovalbugmann #32 Posted February 14, 2007 (edited) Hell! - YEAH! , I just beat SS4U on Battlemorph(but it cost me), new from goatari, he was in a bidding war with me at the end, but he wouldn't go past $19.99 He cost me $10 dollars for his flippin' resale shit, it started at $9.99 ended up at $20+ I guess he figured his profit was out the window at $20+ for BM, and goatari probably will put another one up. No more bidding wars. This can save an auction from getting too high with incremental bids. I like sniping in person. This does give a sense of accomplishment, especially on a high dollar, fierce, last five minutes bidding frenzy! But you have to time it just right as close to the wire as possible with a high bid that is unknown to the rest. They won't have time to increase the current bid in increments (or bigger chunks) trying to discover where your high bid is at. And you only have to beat the second highest bidder by a set amount, according to what dollar range the item in - $0.50 - $10.00 usually. Edited February 14, 2007 by ovalbugmann Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EricDeLee #33 Posted February 14, 2007 He takes a bit to get back with you it seems... I sent a message a few days ago... just got a response the only thing I don't like... and it is minor... is that most of the descriptions say... last one left... or only one left. (but he has say 4 copies of the same item listed)... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ovalbugmann #34 Posted February 14, 2007 Everything goatari has is new and pristine and all originals. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EmOneGarand #35 Posted February 14, 2007 He takes a bit to get back with you it seems... I sent a message a few days ago... just got a response the only thing I don't like... and it is minor... is that most of the descriptions say... last one left... or only one left. (but he has say 4 copies of the same item listed)... Really can't complain, the stuff is always new and in pristine condition. The only problem I had with GoAtari was I didn't get feedback until I messaged about it several weeks after I had left feedback. Other then that great service. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
viMaster #36 Posted February 15, 2007 remowilliams hit the nail on the head. If people would just put in their highest bid they are willing to go, then no problemo, but you can see that SS4U (and sometimes others) just put in a bit that is $.50 higher than the previous one and then waits to see if someone else bids. Then someone else will do the same and it will happen over and over and over again and continue raising prices. All you have to do is put in the max amount you would pay and that's that. I use a sniping program on my computer itself (not a website) and I use that with some Jag auctions, but I NEVER put in a higher bid than I would actually be willing to pay. So really, if my final bid is higher than the others, then I deserve to win. If someone's final bid happens to be higher than mine, then I lose, no big deal. Sniping is great for getting the lowest price possible, which is really what we're all trying to do as buyers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ovalbugmann #37 Posted February 15, 2007 remowilliams hit the nail on the head. If people would just put in their highest bid they are willing to go, then no problemo, but you can see that SS4U (and sometimes others) just put in a bit that is $.50 higher than the previous one and then waits to see if someone else bids. Then someone else will do the same and it will happen over and over and over again and continue raising prices. All you have to do is put in the max amount you would pay and that's that. I use a sniping program on my computer itself (not a website) and I use that with some Jag auctions, but I NEVER put in a higher bid than I would actually be willing to pay. So really, if my final bid is higher than the others, then I deserve to win. If someone's final bid happens to be higher than mine, then I lose, no big deal. Sniping is great for getting the lowest price possible, which is really what we're all trying to do as buyers. Well said!, I agree with that!, - and that keeps the prices as low as possible. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheese007 #38 Posted February 16, 2007 Bah, SS4U has bid on all the Jaguar composite cables on ebay, one of them 6 times in a row. I pray he doesn't find out about esnipe or similar services, because that could easily give him the monopoly he wants. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broonale #39 Posted February 16, 2007 I bet 1/2 his game is not winning auctions, but making you pay more so he keeps the market value up. I just kept sniping at late night auctions until I got one at the price I was willing to pay. It made no sense to pay more for a composite cable than the aftermarket S-video cables that include composite! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ls650 #40 Posted February 16, 2007 There's a company in Texas that sells a Jaguar SVideo cable for only $16 plus $5 shipping. http://www.a8maestro.com/sites/mtgcat/ If you take a look at that cable, it supports the older RCA composite connections with an extra cable that you can buy at Radio Shack or whatever for a few bucks. These cables have had some good reviews, and they're a heck of a lot cheaper than the SVideo cables on eBay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broonale #41 Posted February 16, 2007 You can hook it up to two tv's at one time that way too. I have no excuse for doing it, but I have done it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ls650 #42 Posted February 16, 2007 You can hook it up to two tv's at one time that way too.Will a Jaguar put out a signal to both RF and AV at the same time? That might be useful if you want to show a game on two TVs at a JagFest or meeting. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zerosquare #43 Posted February 16, 2007 You can hook it up to two tv's at one time that way too.Will a Jaguar put out a signal to both RF and AV at the same time? That might be useful if you want to show a game on two TVs at a JagFest or meeting.Yep, all video outputs are independent and always active. This means that, with a custom cable, you could plug up to 4 TVs to a Jag (RF, composite, S-video and RGB) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ovalbugmann #44 Posted February 18, 2007 You can hook it up to two tv's at one time that way too. I have no excuse for doing it, but I have done it I've done that too, to compare picture quality. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites