FC Super Loader....anyone know anything about it?

[GorillaSpawn]

Hi everyone. I've recently become interested in having NES/SNES hardware around again. I haven't actually owned either of these systems since I was a kid. I recently bought the FC Twin and am waiting for it to come in the mail.

 

I am a bit concerned whether I can mod a controller so the FC twin can use a zapper. I see that the Yobo for NES can do this (use a zapper). Does anyone know anything about the "FC Super Loader?" They are on ebay but I can't seem to locate reviews online anywhere. They look a lot like the Yobo game consoles, they accempt NES controllers, and they are about the same price.

 

In any case I am going to attempt to create a controller adapter by merging NES/SNES contoller extension cables following some directions I found online. Has anyone else taken this aproach for getting a zapper to work on the FC Twin?

Edited March 31, 2007 by GorillaSpawn

[Vic George 2K3]

I own an FC Twin and so far I've only played a handful of NES and SNES games on it, and am not very pleased with Tommy Moe's Skiing & Snowboarding not displaying the graphics perfectly on the system. I haven't got the skills to try modding an NES Zapper to work on the system, and I don't have any interest in doing so.

[GorillaSpawn]

I own an FC Twin and so far I've only played a handful of NES and SNES games on it, and am not very pleased with Tommy Moe's Skiing & Snowboarding not displaying the graphics perfectly on the system. I haven't got the skills to try modding an NES Zapper to work on the system, and I don't have any interest in doing so.

 

 

I'm not actually going to mod the zapper itself, I'm just going to try to make a controller adapter plug.

[+madman]

Most (if not all) of the new Famicom clones use a NES On a Chip that is not 100% accurate. For most people it's fine and the systems like Yobo can be had for around $15. Some games won't display properly, color palettes are generally off and sounds can be off as well. They are fine enough for the occasional player, but there's no substitute for a toaster NES w/a new 72 pin connector or an A/V Famicom

[shadow460]

What he said. Your best bet is the original hardware.

[GorillaSpawn]

Just a quick note. I bought a FC Super Loader to check it out. It seems very comparable to the NES function of the FC Twin, with the same compatibility issues. The FC Super Loader is very, very similar to what I have read about the Yobo Game Console, and also takes original NES controllers. I played Duck Hunt on it with the FC Super Loader zapper gun and it works well.

 

I dont have the Yobo NES console, but from what I can tell from pics, the FC Super Loader is just slightly more attractive because the plastic case has some design to it that is reminiscent of the original NES.

 

COMPATIBILITY

 

Here is what I have, not too many games, but they seem to work the same in the SL and the FC Twin...

 

 

Gauntlet: loads but has flaws as described in other reviews. Can walk though walls, etc.

 

Working from tests:

 

TMNT

Duck Hunt

Super Mario Bro 1

Super Mario Bro 3

Ghost Busters

Batman

Bionic Commando

Robocop

Pinball

Ninja Gaiden

Wizards & Warriors 1

Wizards and Warriors 2

Wrath of the Black Manta

 

...that's all the games I have right now.

 

The picture and sound seem good to me. One other thing to note is that the AV cables that came with the FC super Loader are problematic. They take some fiddling sometimes to get a connection for the picture and sound. However, when I swapped them out with the AV cables that the FC Twin comes with, I had no problems.

[+remowilliams]

I'm not actually going to mod the zapper itself, I'm just going to try to make a controller adapter plug.

I tried that - it didn't work. I don't believe it will work due to the hardware differences. Yes, I know the pinouts are quite the same, but that doesn't mean the FC Twin can read the zapper. Somebody prove me wrong

 

Anyhow - the FCTwin (discussed far more indepth Here and Here) is so far pretty unbeatable as top clone, and is definitely my favorite.

[GorillaSpawn]

I'm not actually going to mod the zapper itself, I'm just going to try to make a controller adapter plug.

I tried that - it didn't work. I don't believe it will work due to the hardware differences. Yes, I know the pinouts are quite the same, but that doesn't mean the FC Twin can read the zapper. Somebody prove me wrong

 

Anyhow - the FCTwin (discussed far more indepth Here and Here) is so far pretty unbeatable as top clone, and is definitely my favorite.

 

 

I tried to make an adapter for the zapper to use on the FC Twin, and it didn't work for me either.

[Jagasian]

What he said. Your best bet is the original hardware.

 

I also agree. Get working original Nintendo brand hardware. The cost is roughly the same, and the end result is much better.

[ataridave]

What he said. Your best bet is the original hardware.

 

My own experience has been that any NES hardware, whether original or a clone, will still have plenty of problems, compared with other systems of it's era. I NEVER had to have my Genesis cleaned when I was a kid, and I don't have half the number of problems running cartridges on my Genesis 2 or my moddes SNES as I do on my Messiah Generation NEX. It's a solid system; the main problem being that you can't wiggle around a cartridge to get it to work better. But I have had cleaned cartridges that won't work on it that that will work on the FC Twin.

 

The bottom line is that you're going to have issues with whatever NES-type hardware that you choose to purchase. Game Force uses the FC Twin to let people try out NES and SNES games, and they probably have less problems with it then with the original NES.

[+madman]

Well, the problems with the original NES is the ZIF 72 pin connector they used. I'm not aware of any other console that used a ZIF connector over a standard card edge connector. Thus the problems with the original NES. Combine this with the lockout chip and you have the source of most NES issues.

[GorillaSpawn]

I really do appreciate the feedback, but please notice I wasn't asking for opinions about whether original hardware is better than clone hardware. I've read several previous threads on this topic and I think I know where everyone stands. Mainly I was curious about how the FC Super Loader compared to other clones, but I probably didn't state that exactly. Now that I have the FC Twin and the SL, though, I just might try to get a "real" NES sometime soon...if I can talk the wife into the purchase. I've read that the FC Twin plays SNES pretty much as well as the original, so I may not bother with a "real" SNES.

 

EDIT: Yes, that is an invite to comment on the FC Twin SNES quality :-)

Edited April 5, 2007 by GorillaSpawn

[+remowilliams]

I've read that the FC Twin plays SNES pretty much as well as the original, so I may not bother with a "real" SNES.

 

EDIT: Yes, that is an invite to comment on the FC Twin SNES quality :-)

The FC SNES is excellent IMHO. And you'll definitely be getting more posts about how real hardware is better. There are some people who will come to every clone thread and vent their hate

 

My stance is - yes the real hardware provides the most 'authentic' experience. That does not however necessarily translate into the 'best' experience.

[TimsterAA]

I just got my FC Twin today, and I was very happy to free up the space my Yobo NES and stock SNES were taking up - replacing it with only one unit. That, combined with replacing my original PS1 earlier this week with one of those compact PS1's with the built-in screen, freed up enough room on the shelf they resided to move my Gamecube up from the rec-room (where it's been supplanted by the Wii) to the Arcade/Retro Room! Now - on that shelf - I have an Atari 7800, FC Twin (NES/SNES), N64, GC, PS1, Colecovision, and A800XL all hooked up to one TV.

 

Woo-hoo!

 

--Timster--