Dav Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 I'm mentioning this here because I know there's a couple of guys interested in it. My wife took the kids to her parents for a week so I have some spare time and I'm going to assemble a few of my kits and do sort of a limited public beta test for $100. I didn't get around to adding nvram for hi score support and software dips. I've decided to just release what I have rather than mess around for another couple of years. If you don't remember the kit replaces the dongle and the bios eprom. The new bios loads the cassette data from my new dongle instead of the tape. And since modern eproms can store a lot more data I went ahead and put pretty much all the available games on it. The only one I know I can't do is scrum try as the dongle for it is difficult for me to patch. All the other games have had the dongle protection patched out. I even decrypted highway chase and added it to MAME so I could use it. There are a couple of more games that I really wanted to add but Al Kossow has been hording the tapes for the last couple of years, but that's another story. The way it works is it boots up to a menu, you select the game you want with start 1, and it loads in about 10 seconds. Then you hold the start buttons and press coin to get back to the menu. Did I mention it loads in about 10 seconds? because it loads in about 10 seconds I believe it will only work on the more common smaller boardset. I haven't tested it on the older and I know the memory map is slightly different so I suspect it won't. If this sounds like something you're interested in and you're not afraid of beta software get in touch with me as I will probably ship them in about a 7-10 days. I'm missing the header pins so I'll have to order some more, before I can finish the boards. You don't have to have an eprom programmer but it's not a bad idea if you want to get in this early. With this much patched software there's bound to be a bug or two. Thanks, dave@widel.com I'm including an actual pic as the mame screen shots have completely the wrong colors compared to real hardware, although this pic isn't much better. The actual colors are the same blue and pink on the original bios. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassidy Nolen Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 Absolutely amazing work. You should get in touch with Arcadeshop.com or Clay Cowgill and get this to market. There is really not much enforcement on copyright issues with Data East I would imagine and the fact you single-handedly saved, oh, I don't know, EVERY Data cab from being junked is AMAZING. No sense not to make a few bucks on your efforts. Outstanding. I know Tempest has a spare set of boards around (at least he did). I know he will be VERY happy to see your final product. Great job, wish I still had a cab to test this in. Cassidy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 Alright! Message sent! Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dav Posted May 21, 2007 Author Share Posted May 21, 2007 Absolutely amazing work. You should get in touch with Arcadeshop.com or Clay Cowgill and get this to market. There is really not much enforcement on copyright issues with Data East I would imagine and the fact you single-handedly saved, oh, I don't know, EVERY Data cab from being junked is AMAZING. No sense not to make a few bucks on your efforts. Outstanding. I know Tempest has a spare set of boards around (at least he did). I know he will be VERY happy to see your final product. Great job, wish I still had a cab to test this in. Cassidy Thanks, I really like this kind of work. I wish I could make a living doing it but oh well. If the beta turns out well I'll probably turn it over to Mike Doyle like I did the 96 in 1 and the multi qbert. He a people person and does a nice job with tech support and sales. I don't know how many deco machines are left anymore, though. This may not be a big seller. Tempest, I didn't get a message from you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 Ok, sent it again. Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.bill Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 I have 2 uprights and a cocktail. I really only wanted to save the upright brugertime, but this kit could save them all. THe cocktail is nice and the other is a kit into a tempest cabinet. If you need any help to test this, let me know. I would prefer to wait for a more finished project, but as long as it might be just an eprom swap, I can burn a chip. If this can get done in time For CA extreme, I can take the game to the show (15min drive for me). I'm mentioning this here because I know there's a couple of guys interested in it. My wife took the kids to her parents for a week so I have some spare time and I'm going to assemble a few of my kits and do sort of a limited public beta test for $100. I didn't get around to adding nvram for hi score support and software dips. I've decided to just release what I have rather than mess around for another couple of years. If you don't remember the kit replaces the dongle and the bios eprom. The new bios loads the cassette data from my new dongle instead of the tape. And since modern eproms can store a lot more data I went ahead and put pretty much all the available games on it. The only one I know I can't do is scrum try as the dongle for it is difficult for me to patch. All the other games have had the dongle protection patched out. I even decrypted highway chase and added it to MAME so I could use it. There are a couple of more games that I really wanted to add but Al Kossow has been hording the tapes for the last couple of years, but that's another story. The way it works is it boots up to a menu, you select the game you want with start 1, and it loads in about 10 seconds. Then you hold the start buttons and press coin to get back to the menu. Did I mention it loads in about 10 seconds? because it loads in about 10 seconds I believe it will only work on the more common smaller boardset. I haven't tested it on the older and I know the memory map is slightly different so I suspect it won't. If this sounds like something you're interested in and you're not afraid of beta software get in touch with me as I will probably ship them in about a 7-10 days. I'm missing the header pins so I'll have to order some more, before I can finish the boards. You don't have to have an eprom programmer but it's not a bad idea if you want to get in this early. With this much patched software there's bound to be a bug or two. Thanks, dave@widel.com I'm including an actual pic as the mame screen shots have completely the wrong colors compared to real hardware, although this pic isn't much better. The actual colors are the same blue and pink on the original bios. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 If this can get done in time For CA extreme, I can take the game to the show (15min drive for me). Funny you should mention that. I was going to try and get out to CA extreme so I could make some DECO contacts. I figure if anyone was going to know something about the DECO Cassette System it would be the people at CA Extreme. Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dav Posted May 24, 2007 Author Share Posted May 24, 2007 I have 2 uprights and a cocktail. I really only wanted to save the upright brugertime, but this kit could save them all. THe cocktail is nice and the other is a kit into a tempest cabinet. If you need any help to test this, let me know. I would prefer to wait for a more finished project, but as long as it might be just an eprom swap, I can burn a chip. If this can get done in time For CA extreme, I can take the game to the show (15min drive for me). There will probably be an eprom swap to upgrade the data. I put in instructions for you to read while you wait for the load and I know I have some typo's and some I just didn't do. The ones I found instruction cards for I typed in but a lot of them I just left. And of course there's always the possibility that I missed a protection patch somewhere and will have to fix one of the games. And maybe i'll suddenly get a bunch of free time and I'll be able to port some games over, but I wouldnt' count on it. One of my favorite games, Eggs, like almost but not quite would run w/o much work. And I think the midway version of BTime is a little different than the Deco. Anyone know? All that stuff is on two 27c040 chips on the dongle. If you don't want to burn chips that's fine, I'll send out 1 update when the code is finalized. If for some reason you're just not happy with it you can get your money back. I'd recommend not waiting to get one as sometimes I lose interest in these projects and never do a second run if they don't sell well. Like there probably won't be a production run of the multi-exidy's. I don't think I mentioned it before but a number of the games use 2 buttons. If your cab doesn't have 2 buttons populated you'll have to add one or not be able to play some of the games. Someone told me the cocktails have a larger boards set. It's about 2 inches taller than the uprights. Have you noticed that? I went to CA exetreme back around 2000, I wish I could go back sometime. Tempest, You might look for Dale Luck I believe he bought out Al's collection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dav Posted May 26, 2007 Author Share Posted May 26, 2007 I wrote something to dump the instructions that I've been adding in. I thought I might as well get some feedback before I started shipping these. I tried to copy from the instruction card or flyer where I could find one. There's a limited amount of space obviously and you only have 10 seconds to read it so I have to keep it short. If any one has any corrections or missing instructions let me know; if not this will be the instructions that ship. Thanks, Dave BURGER TIME BUTTON 1 PEPPER LET'S GET COOKIN'! DROP INGREDIENTS ON PLATE TO MAKE HAMBURGERS. YOU ARE OUT IF YOU TOUCH AN ENEMY. SPRINKLE PEPPER TO STOP ENEMIES. TAKE BONUS TO INCREASE YOUR SUPPLY OF PEPPER ============================= PETER PEPPER'S ICE CREAM FACTORY BUTTON 1 JUMP OR KICK ICE CREAM DOWN BUTTON 2 KICK ICE CREAM UP ============================= BUMP 'N' JUMP BUTTON 1 JUMP MOVE LEVER TO BUMP CARS OFF ROAD FOR POINTS. USE JUMP TO AVOID ATTACKING CARS, WATER AND OBSTACLES. JUMP TO LAND ON OPPONENT'S CARS WITH NO HARM TO YOUR OWN. YOU MUST BE TRAVELING 100MPH TO JUMP. ============================= ROOTIN' TOOTIN' BUTTON 1 TEMPORARY INVULNERABILITY ============================= CLUSTER BUSTER BUTTON 1 UP BUTTON 2 ANGLE OF DEFLECTION KEEP HITTING BALL OR IT WILL FALL THRU BOTTOM. USE UP BUTTON TO LIFT SCREEN. USE BOUNCER BUTTON TO CHANGE ANGLE OF BOUNCE. ============================= TORNADO BUTTON 1 SHOOT BUTTON 2 BOMB ============================= LOCK 'N' CHASE BUTTON 1 LOCK USE THE LEVER TO MOVE THE LUPIN THRU THE MAZE PICKING UP GOLD COINS. PUSH THE BUTTON TO CLOSE THE SHUTTERS BEHIND TO LOCK THEM UP. THERE ARE 2 MYSTERY ZONES WHERE BONUS IS AWARDED FOR TRAPPING. ============================= NIGHT STAR BUTTON 1 SHOOT BUILD THE SPACE STATION, NIGHT STAR CITY AND THE DEEP SPACE DOCK A BONUS SPACECRAFT TO COMPLETE EACH OF THEM. IF YOU RESCUE A SPACEMAN WHO FLOATS BY IN SPACE, YOU'LL TURN YOUR WEAPON INTO A LASER GUN ============================= SUPER ASTRO FIGHTER BUTTON 1 FIRE DESTROY ALL UFOS AND THE SPACE MASTER BEFORE YOUR FUEL RUNS OUT. WATCH OUT YOUR FUEL IS LIMITED AND THE SPACE MASTERS ATTACK IS DEADLY. ============================= SWEET HEART BUTTON 1 FREEZE DANCE A SQUARE AROUND THE DISCO CHARACTERS. PUSH BUTTON TO FREEZE RUFFIANS, ONLY A LIMITED NUMBER OF TIMES. ============================= TERRANEAN BUTTON 1 SHOOT BUTTON 2 LAUNCH/EXPLODE FLASH BOMB YOU ARE COMMANDED TO DEFEND TERRA FROM ALIEN ATTACK. ALLOW NO ALIEN RAIDER THROUGH TO SHATTER THE PEACH OF QUIETLY REVOLVING TERRA. ============================= FIGHTING ICE HOCKEY BUTTON 1 BUTTON 2 ============================= MISSION X BUTTON 1 BOMB OR SHOOT FLY IN LOW TO DANGER/ AND SUSPENSE ============================= ASTRO FANTASIA BUTTON 1 FIRE YOUR BATTLE IN THE ASTRO ZONE COMES TO AN EXCITING CLIMAX WHEN THE GIANT ASTROGEN APPEARS. YOU NEED 6 DIRECT HITS TO DESTROY IT AND YOUR FUEL IS RUNNING OUT. ============================= BOULDER DASH BUTTON 1 AND 2 EXPLODE ROCKFORD DIGS FEVERISHLY, AS BOULDERS CRASH DOWN ALL AROUND HIM, THROUGH 16 MYSTICAL CAVES AND FIVE LEVELS OF DIFFICULTY. ============================= TEST TAPE USE THE SERVICE SWITCH ON THE PCB TO ADVANCE TO THE NEXT TEST. DONGLE VERSION 1.00 WWW.WIDEL.COM ============================= LUCKY POKER BUTTON 1 RED BUTTON BUTTON 2 BLUE BUTTON ============================= FLYING BALL BUTTON 1 PUSH BUTTON 2 ANGLE OF DEFLECTION ============================= PRO GOLF BUTTON 1 SHOOT MOVE LEVER U OR D TO SELECT CLUB. MOVE LEVER R/L TO HOOK/SLICE. WATCH DISTANCE INDICATOR TO JUDGE POWER OF STROKE. IF YOU SHOOT OVER PAR YOU LOSE ONE GOLFER. ============================= PRO SOCCER BUTTON 1 LONG PASS/GOAL SHOT BUTTON 2 SHORT PASS OR CENTERING PASS ============================= PRO TENNIS BUTTON 1 ============================= PRO BOWLING BUTTON 1 BOWL MOVE LEVER L/R TO POSITION BOWLER. MOVE LEVER U/D TO CURVE OR HOOK THE BALL. WATCH SPEED METER ON LEFT. PUSH RED BUTTON TO BOWL. ============================= TREASURE ISLAND BUTTON 1 THROW ROCKS USE YOUR SKILL TO CLIMB TO THE PEAK OF A SINKING ISLAND. CHOOSE QUICKLY, COLLECTING TREASURES WHILE DODGING MONSTER EGGS. BREAK EGGS BEFORE THEY HATCH. ============================= ZEROIZE BUTTON 1 TURBO BUTTON 2 BRAKE ============================= HWY CHASE BUTTON 1 SHOOT BUTTON 2 ============================= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Old bump but does anyone remember how to get the game to reset back to the mutli-cart menu? It was some button/joystick combo but I'll be damned if I remember it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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