sciarpo #1 Posted June 1, 2007 Got an Xbox 360. I am actually not a big video game person, but I always loved the Jag and got a pretty good collection. Anyway, bought an Xbox 360 to keep up with new games that might be interesting. Didn't know it had a light machine. It's pretty awesome. I like playing both the Xbox and Jag light shows. Anyone else have an XBox360 who can comment on it's light machine in comparison to the Jag? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gregory DG #2 Posted June 1, 2007 I seem to recall Minter having something to do with the Xbox 360's VLM... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sciarpo #3 Posted June 1, 2007 That doesn't surprise me if true. Both are amazing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ovalbugmann #4 Posted June 1, 2007 (edited) I seem to recall Minter having something to do with the Xbox 360's VLM... He sure did!!!!! Jeff Minter is an excellent coder, and graphical designer and you should see the lightsynths he's doing now!!!! You'll think you took shrooms!!!! He did the VLM 2 for certain Samsung and Toshiba DVD players that was a media processor chip called NUON, he designed it so you could not see any of the pixilation apparent in the Jags' VLM 1. It looks excellent! He also did a VLM 3 which was never released for the Gamecube. Now he will finally realize his 20 year dream of getting a light synthisizer to millions of people with the release of his newest lightsynth, the XBOX 360 's NEON! - a lightsynth which is in it's firmware. He says; "Well, without giving any secrets away and getting myself into trouble with Microsoft, I can tell you that the Xbox360 can bring to bear an absolutely *staggering* amount of computational power on each and every pixel, and never drop below 60 frames a second. The thing's a *monster*." I don't have a XBOX 360 but he says of it; it puts the VLM 1; "striaght into the stone age" and "Finally realising my design of a modular lightsynth on top of that awesome computational power, and inheriting the multi-user controllability from VLM-3, is NEON - and the results are simply amazing. Even I am continually amazed at what it is possible to get out of it, and I designed it }." & "It is a true light synthesiser, and easily the most beautiful thing I have ever made, by a very long way." Please take a look for yourself on his website: NEON! Jeff Minters Best!!!!! And be sure to look at the teaser trailer for the NEON and the awsome NEON still shots Edited June 1, 2007 by ovalbugmann Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+CharlieChaplin #5 Posted June 10, 2007 Well, I already have several "VLM" like versions on my Atari 8bit - long before the name Virtual Light Machine was born. One of them, called "Colourspace" was even done by Jeff Minter himself... The big difference (besides colors and resolution on the A8) is, that the A8 VLM versions do not react on or to music, they react to keypresses... Now, thats what I call stoneage... On the other hand I could say "...VLM ? lame (no new idea!), I already have this on my thirty-years old A8..." - but I better don`t say that... Maybe I should open a thread in the A8 forum called "VLM on the A8"... -Andreas. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ovalbugmann #6 Posted June 11, 2007 (edited) Well,I already have several "VLM" like versions on my Atari 8bit - long before the name Virtual Light Machine was born. One of them, called "Colourspace" was even done by Jeff Minter himself... The big difference (besides colors and resolution on the A8) is, that the A8 VLM versions do not react on or to music, they react to keypresses... Now, thats what I call stoneage... On the other hand I could say "...VLM ? lame (no new idea!), I already have this on my thirty-years old A8..." - but I better don`t say that... Maybe I should open a thread in the A8 forum called "VLM on the A8"... -Andreas. The Atari 8-bit VLM's are the lame ones, not the Jag's VLM 1 or Nuon's VLM 2 or the unreleased VLM3 and certainly NOT the XBOX 360's NEON. Your saying all the newer VLM's are lame because it's not a new idea? That's nuts. The one on the 360 is phenominal! absolutely stunning and blows all of 'em away with crazy power. Maybe you should go to his webpage and look at it before you cut it down, I put the link to it for naysayers. How often do you use your 8-bit versions? Not too often? I wonder why. Edited June 11, 2007 by ovalbugmann Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites