+Omegamatrix #1 Posted June 14, 2007 Well, they are listed as protos but look extremely clean. Holey Moley, Crazy Climber, Quadrun, A-Team, Lock 'n' Chase. Holey Moley and Crazy Climber have notes on them from Jerry G saying these are protos. These look like Best Electronics to me. Lock 'n' Chase lookings intresting though. Looks like a sample/demo cart for in a store, but not a proto. http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZwickedster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Atarimania75 #2 Posted June 14, 2007 Very interesting auctions anyway! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Omegamatrix #3 Posted June 14, 2007 Actually thinking about it some more was Jerry G connected to Best Electronics? I remember him only being affilated with Atari2600.com a while back. I still think they are repos, but maybe these were made just after these protos were found. Perhaps Jerry is just signing them to say the rom is the prototype rom. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CPUWIZ #4 Posted June 14, 2007 They definitely look like Best boards, but Jerry has been known to "authenticate" those anyway. Seller isn't the sharpest pencil in the lot, he should have listed them for a cent less and pay less ebay fees. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dino #5 Posted June 14, 2007 They definitely look like Best boards, but Jerry has been known to "authenticate" those anyway. Didn't Best buy out the old Atari stock and therefore these are "original"? Just curious as to why these never seem to have as much value as other protos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CPUWIZ #6 Posted June 14, 2007 They definitely look like Best boards, but Jerry has been known to "authenticate" those anyway. Didn't Best buy out the old Atari stock and therefore these are "original"? Just curious as to why these never seem to have as much value as other protos Because they burned the EPROM's themself's. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dino #7 Posted June 14, 2007 They definitely look like Best boards, but Jerry has been known to "authenticate" those anyway. Didn't Best buy out the old Atari stock and therefore these are "original"? Just curious as to why these never seem to have as much value as other protos Because they burned the EPROM's themself's. Gotcha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mumbai #8 Posted June 14, 2007 Seller isn't the sharpest pencil in the lot, he should have listed them for a cent less and pay less ebay fees. Pretty sure he's a member here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FND #9 Posted June 14, 2007 (edited) They definitely look like Best boards, but Jerry has been known to "authenticate" those anyway. Didn't Best buy out the old Atari stock and therefore these are "original"? Just curious as to why these never seem to have as much value as other protos Also without any eprom stickers or case label they become suspect, anyone could use a not so rare proto board and burn any game they want thereby turning a final release pole position into a rare unreleased game or a more sought after game like crazy climber or quadrun The only thing you can say for sure about these are that they are Genuine Eprom Boards BTW They could very well be originals I was just trying to point out why this type of proto will usally sell for less fnd Edited June 14, 2007 by FND Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CPUWIZ #10 Posted June 14, 2007 Seller isn't the sharpest pencil in the lot, he should have listed them for a cent less and pay less ebay fees. Pretty sure he's a member here. Does that make him more or less smart? Not sure what you mean by that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michael_ #11 Posted June 14, 2007 I was going to ask that also. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wickey27 #12 Posted June 14, 2007 The prototypes (and listings) are mine. I purchased them from atari2600.com a while back - originally as bait to try to get some rare Colecovision Cartridges (for my Colecovision collection) - someone I was trading with said they would only trade for atari 2600 prototypes - I lucked out by looking on the atari2600 website at the right time - (but the Colecovision guy sold the cartridges I was interested in before I received the protos). You can verify my purchase with JC at atari2600.com if you like..... Ebay just removed my listings though - apparently it is a violation of their policy to list prototypes of software - go figure! So........looks like I am stuck with them...... If anyone is interested in them...let me know...... I've traded successfully with several people on here and can provide references if neccessary.....I also have 126 feedback on ebay..... Regards Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crazy Climber #13 Posted June 15, 2007 Those proto's were on atari2600.com for years..... The Lock n Chase was $115 The A-Team was $70 The Crazy Climber was $70 and I want to say the Quadrun was $110 but I can't quite remember. I almost bought the Lock n Chase to go with my Air Battle (that I bought from atari2600.com for $140) last summer but I changed my mind about collecting prototypes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crazy Climber #14 Posted June 15, 2007 Quadrun was $75, they have another one https://www.atari2600.com/item--Quadrun--PROD6963.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Wonder007 #15 Posted June 15, 2007 Quadrun was $75, they have another one https://www.atari2600.com/item--Quadrun--PROD6963.html Lock Chase looks like a real sample cart. The other protos I believe are fake; there are no stickers on them and are consistent with fake protos I have seen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michael_ #16 Posted June 15, 2007 Quadrun was $75, they have another one https://www.atari2600.com/item--Quadrun--PROD6963.html Lock Chase looks like a real sample cart. The other protos I believe are fake; there are no stickers on them and are consistent with fake protos I have seen. Still, they usually describe the "fake" ones as Prototype Reproductions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wickey27 #17 Posted June 16, 2007 Wow! It really boggles my mind how judgemental some of you people can be. Every single time a rare item comes up on ebay, everyone assumes it’s a scam and starts passing judgment on the sellers. Honestly, if I were going to scam, it would be much easier for me to copy/counterfeit rare boxes, shrink wrap them with dummy cartridges and sell them. Give me a break people! Who really has time for this bull****??? Come to think of it, isn’t it the same “panel of experts” that deemed zeitshabba Atlantis II cartridge a fake, forcing the poor guy to destroy the label to prove you all wrong? Hmmmmm…… I wonder who I should be more likely to believe. One of the biggest Atari 2600 collectors of all time (Jerry G) …….or a panel of experts who “think” they know what they are talking about…….let me get back to you on that. It also ticks me off how people are always complaining about resellers on ebay. I assume for those people, you buy every single thing you own (whether it be clothes etc.) from a wholesaler? Guess what folks – every single retailer you shop at is a reseller – Wal-Mart is a reseller for god’s sake – so SHUT UP already…. Say what you will about the prototypes – whether you think they are real or not, it doesn’t really matter. Everyone is entitled to their opinion – but PLEASE do not attack my character, honesty or my motives. I am a simple collector trying to do the exact same thing as the rest of you……. P.S. to CPUWIZ re the comment on me not being the sharpest pencil in the lot – sorry I am not an ebay guru and don’t know every little trick in the shed to save money (not that I really care about saving money). Honestly, if I cared that much about saving 30 cents, I probably wouldn’t be wasting thousands of dollars on a game cartridge collection….. We’re all on here for the same reasons – play nice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CPUWIZ #18 Posted June 16, 2007 Wow! It really boggles my mind how judgemental some of you people can be. Every single time a rare item comes up on ebay, everyone assumes it’s a scam and starts passing judgment on the sellers. Honestly, if I were going to scam, it would be much easier for me to copy/counterfeit rare boxes, shrink wrap them with dummy cartridges and sell them. Give me a break people! Who really has time for this bull****??? Come to think of it, isn’t it the same “panel of experts” that deemed zeitshabba Atlantis II cartridge a fake, forcing the poor guy to destroy the label to prove you all wrong? Hmmmmm…… I wonder who I should be more likely to believe. One of the biggest Atari 2600 collectors of all time (Jerry G) …….or a panel of experts who “think” they know what they are talking about…….let me get back to you on that. Say what you will about the prototypes – whether you think they are real or not, it doesn’t really matter. Everyone is entitled to their opinion – but PLEASE do not attack my character, honesty or my motives. I am a simple collector trying to do the exact same thing as the rest of you……. We’re all on here for the same reasons – play nice. Actually, the topic "Best Electronics Prototypes" and the age old discussion about them, has absolutely nothing to do with you. You just happen to get duped, just like many others before you. P.S. to CPUWIZ re the comment on me not being the sharpest pencil in the lot – sorry I am not an ebay guru and don’t know every little trick in the shed to save money (not that I really care about saving money). Honestly, if I cared that much about saving 30 cents, I probably wouldn’t be wasting thousands of dollars on a game cartridge collection….. Fair enough, it's more than 30 cents though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Omegamatrix #19 Posted June 16, 2007 Come to think of it, isn’t it the same “panel of experts” that deemed zeitshabba Atlantis II cartridge a fake, forcing the poor guy to destroy the label to prove you all wrong? Nothing has been proved there. All the Imagic chips look alike. It'd take someone actually being there when the chip is plugged in to verify it. Until then all it's all just a photo of an imagic chip and a screen shot. Best used to make all these repos and sell them as protos. Yours look like them. This is not an attack on your character. No one thinks you are pulling a scam here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Wonder007 #20 Posted June 17, 2007 I don't think anybody is trying to attack character here. Many people on these boards (including myself) have been duped by Best products and the pics of the auction are VERY consistent with those items. I know that sometimes the truth hurts (trust me, I try to justify the three Best protos I have but they are just not true protos); it is what it is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites