First time Jaguar owner

[AtariMan1976]

Just got me Atari Jaguar with the Jag CD player both complete in original boxes. Back when they first came out, we had a game shop back in Arkansas called GameMart. I got to try one out there but at the time and for the price, it just wasn't me. i had a chance at one time to get one from a friend but i still wasn't interested. as the years have passed, i've seen the popularity of the Jag rise with all the collectors out there. Especially the Jag CD. I figured being a collector myself and being a big fan of Atari since the 80's, i figured, what the heck. i'd better get one while i can. I really am impressed with this machine. It's just a shame it didn't do better than it did. I have another sealed Jaguar coming that i'm going to keep put up on display and i'm looking forward to getting Black Ice White Noise. Right now i'm playing Doom. Does anyone have any suggestions as to what good games to look for, especially the collectible ones? I've posted a pic of my Jaguar set here.

[Gregory DG]

Start Here... and here...

 

Since you have the CD player, get your hands on a copy of Battlemorph. It's the best game on CD.

 

Other than the standard, "AvP, Tempest 2000, & Rayman" I also like Skyhammer, NBA Jam, Missile Command 3D, Iron Soldier 1 & 2, and Protector.

[BuddyBuddies]

Just got me Atari Jaguar with the Jag CD player both complete in original boxes. Back when they first came out, we had a game shop back in Arkansas called GameMart. I got to try one out there but at the time and for the price, it just wasn't me. i had a chance at one time to get one from a friend but i still wasn't interested. as the years have passed, i've seen the popularity of the Jag rise with all the collectors out there. Especially the Jag CD. I figured being a collector myself and being a big fan of Atari since the 80's, i figured, what the heck. i'd better get one while i can. I really am impressed with this machine. It's just a shame it didn't do better than it did. I have another sealed Jaguar coming that i'm going to keep put up on display and i'm looking forward to getting Black Ice White Noise. Right now i'm playing Doom. Does anyone have any suggestions as to what good games to look for, especially the collectible ones? I've posted a pic of my Jaguar set here.

congrats on the setup buddy,BIWN is pretty cool too

[ls650]

Yeah, check out Greg's site above. It has a good ranking system and lots of reviews with screenshots.

[jboypacman]

Some of my favorites are.....

 

Wolfenstein 3D

Rayman

Tempest 2000-a must have in my opinion.

Super Burnout

[smashalley]

Just got me Atari Jaguar with the Jag CD player both complete in original boxes. Back when they first came out, we had a game shop back in Arkansas called GameMart. I got to try one out there but at the time and for the price, it just wasn't me. i had a chance at one time to get one from a friend but i still wasn't interested. as the years have passed, i've seen the popularity of the Jag rise with all the collectors out there. Especially the Jag CD. I figured being a collector myself and being a big fan of Atari since the 80's, i figured, what the heck. i'd better get one while i can. I really am impressed with this machine. It's just a shame it didn't do better than it did. I have another sealed Jaguar coming that i'm going to keep put up on display and i'm looking forward to getting Black Ice White Noise. Right now i'm playing Doom. Does anyone have any suggestions as to what good games to look for, especially the collectible ones? I've posted a pic of my Jaguar set here.

 

Very nice. How much did the whole spread cost you, if you don't mind telling us? Just curious if you got a good deal on it or if it was "regular price."

[AtariMan1976]

Just got me Atari Jaguar with the Jag CD player both complete in original boxes. Back when they first came out, we had a game shop back in Arkansas called GameMart. I got to try one out there but at the time and for the price, it just wasn't me. i had a chance at one time to get one from a friend but i still wasn't interested. as the years have passed, i've seen the popularity of the Jag rise with all the collectors out there. Especially the Jag CD. I figured being a collector myself and being a big fan of Atari since the 80's, i figured, what the heck. i'd better get one while i can. I really am impressed with this machine. It's just a shame it didn't do better than it did. I have another sealed Jaguar coming that i'm going to keep put up on display and i'm looking forward to getting Black Ice White Noise. Right now i'm playing Doom. Does anyone have any suggestions as to what good games to look for, especially the collectible ones? I've posted a pic of my Jaguar set here.

 

Very nice. How much did the whole spread cost you, if you don't mind telling us? Just curious if you got a good deal on it or if it was "regular price."

$229.99. Not sure if that was actually a steal but i thought it was pretty good. I see the jag CD players are a little hard to come by.

[Gunstar]

Welcome!

 

(in no particlular order except the order off the top of my head)

Best Jaguar Cartridge games:

 

AvP

Doom

Wolfenstein 3D

Tempest 2000

Skyhammer

Missle Command 3D

Defender 2000

Protector&P: Special Edition

I-war

Iron Soldier 1&2(2 is rare on cart)

Rayman

Raiden

Cybermorph

Ultra Vortek

Power Drive Rally

Atari Karts

Super Burnout

Val Di' Isere Skiing&Snowboarding

Total Carnage

Hyper Force

NBA: T.E.

Towers II

Breakout 2000

Worms

Zero 5

Cannon Fodder

Battlesphere

 

Best CD games:

 

Battlemorph

Iron Soldier 2

Hover Strike: Unconquered Lands

World Tour Racing

Myst

Dragon's Lair

Braindead 13

Primal Rage

Gorf

 

Best unsfinished/beta/demos

 

Black Ice/White Noise(CD)

Soul Star(CD)

Native(CD)

Space War 2000

Phase Zero

 

Certainly I may have left some out others may find better than some I included, but across the board I think I hit most of the quality titles.

 

General majority consensus of really bad games:

 

Checkered Flag

Club Drive

Double Dragon 5

Space Ace

Kasumi Ninja

Trevor Mcfur

 

Generally steer clear unless collecting all, then there are some people who really like some of the "bad" games listed above, so personal opinion may incline you to disagree that a game above is truly "bad."

 

Any games not mentioned I personally consider average fair, that a person can wait on until the best are collected first unless you just find it for dirt cheap. Though I have some games really like that are considered average/below average by many, like Fight For Life and Blue Lightning, but I'm trying to include only what is considered good by the general majority.

Edited July 4, 2007 by Gunstar

[JagChris]

Just got me Atari Jaguar with the Jag CD player both complete in original boxes. Back when they first came out, we had a game shop back in Arkansas called GameMart. I got to try one out there but at the time and for the price, it just wasn't me. i had a chance at one time to get one from a friend but i still wasn't interested. as the years have passed, i've seen the popularity of the Jag rise with all the collectors out there. Especially the Jag CD. I figured being a collector myself and being a big fan of Atari since the 80's, i figured, what the heck. i'd better get one while i can. I really am impressed with this machine. It's just a shame it didn't do better than it did. I have another sealed Jaguar coming that i'm going to keep put up on display and i'm looking forward to getting Black Ice White Noise. Right now i'm playing Doom. Does anyone have any suggestions as to what good games to look for, especially the collectible ones? I've posted a pic of my Jaguar set here.

 

Very nice. How much did the whole spread cost you, if you don't mind telling us? Just curious if you got a good deal on it or if it was "regular price."

$229.99. Not sure if that was actually a steal but i thought it was pretty good. I see the jag CD players are a little hard to come by.

 

Oh yeah! I'd hump leg for a deal like that!

[viMaster]

Just got me Atari Jaguar with the Jag CD player both complete in original boxes. Back when they first came out, we had a game shop back in Arkansas called GameMart. I got to try one out there but at the time and for the price, it just wasn't me. i had a chance at one time to get one from a friend but i still wasn't interested. as the years have passed, i've seen the popularity of the Jag rise with all the collectors out there. Especially the Jag CD. I figured being a collector myself and being a big fan of Atari since the 80's, i figured, what the heck. i'd better get one while i can. I really am impressed with this machine. It's just a shame it didn't do better than it did. I have another sealed Jaguar coming that i'm going to keep put up on display and i'm looking forward to getting Black Ice White Noise. Right now i'm playing Doom. Does anyone have any suggestions as to what good games to look for, especially the collectible ones? I've posted a pic of my Jaguar set here.

 

Very nice. How much did the whole spread cost you, if you don't mind telling us? Just curious if you got a good deal on it or if it was "regular price."

$229.99. Not sure if that was actually a steal but i thought it was pretty good. I see the jag CD players are a little hard to come by.

 

Oh yeah! I'd hump leg for a deal like that!

Come now, I don't think this is a hypothetical idea in your mind...

let's get the truth now... what DID you do that one time at band camp

[Gunstar]

Just got me Atari Jaguar with the Jag CD player both complete in original boxes. Back when they first came out, we had a game shop back in Arkansas called GameMart. I got to try one out there but at the time and for the price, it just wasn't me. i had a chance at one time to get one from a friend but i still wasn't interested. as the years have passed, i've seen the popularity of the Jag rise with all the collectors out there. Especially the Jag CD. I figured being a collector myself and being a big fan of Atari since the 80's, i figured, what the heck. i'd better get one while i can. I really am impressed with this machine. It's just a shame it didn't do better than it did. I have another sealed Jaguar coming that i'm going to keep put up on display and i'm looking forward to getting Black Ice White Noise. Right now i'm playing Doom. Does anyone have any suggestions as to what good games to look for, especially the collectible ones? I've posted a pic of my Jaguar set here.

 

Judging by that photograph of Doom you attached, I'd say the first thing for the Jag you need to invest in is at least a composite cable, if not S-video. That RF picture just doesn't cut it if you really want to enjoy the Jaguar. Of course, since your a long time Atari fan, it's probable that you have an ST RGB monitor, in which case a custom Jag RGB cable can be made or bought for the best possible picture, if you don't mind the small screen. I use S-video and RGB (on an SC1224 13") and it's always a tough decision if I want to play it in S-video on my 32" TV in my Lazyboy, or on my monitor with the incredible picture, but less comfortably at a desktop.

[AtariMan1976]

Just got me Atari Jaguar with the Jag CD player both complete in original boxes. Back when they first came out, we had a game shop back in Arkansas called GameMart. I got to try one out there but at the time and for the price, it just wasn't me. i had a chance at one time to get one from a friend but i still wasn't interested. as the years have passed, i've seen the popularity of the Jag rise with all the collectors out there. Especially the Jag CD. I figured being a collector myself and being a big fan of Atari since the 80's, i figured, what the heck. i'd better get one while i can. I really am impressed with this machine. It's just a shame it didn't do better than it did. I have another sealed Jaguar coming that i'm going to keep put up on display and i'm looking forward to getting Black Ice White Noise. Right now i'm playing Doom. Does anyone have any suggestions as to what good games to look for, especially the collectible ones? I've posted a pic of my Jaguar set here.

 

Judging by that photograph of Doom you attached, I'd say the first thing for the Jag you need to invest in is at least a composite cable, if not S-video. That RF picture just doesn't cut it if you really want to enjoy the Jaguar. Of course, since your a long time Atari fan, it's probable that you have an ST RGB monitor, in which case a custom Jag RGB cable can be made or bought for the best possible picture, if you don't mind the small screen. I use S-video and RGB (on an SC1224 13") and it's always a tough decision if I want to play it in S-video on my 32" TV in my Lazyboy, or on my monitor with the incredible picture, but less comfortably at a desktop.

Yeah your right. its not as bad as it seems seeing how the camera took the image but it definitley could be alot better. I hate rf boxes but thats all it came with. I have a 32 sony wega and a mitsubishi 46, both with s-video and composite so i can go with either connection. I'll definitly be picking a cable up for this. Unfortunately, the only monitors i have are my 2 1702 monitors for my commodores. How much would an s-video cablr for the jag run these days?

[ls650]

Take a search through this forum for "More than Hardware". It's a business run by a guy in Texas who makes cables for older systems. He sells a Jag S-Video cable for about $20.

The Atari-brand one on eBay tends to go for $40+ thanks to Jag speculator sweetsstuf4u.

Also, a regular Jag AV-composite cable goes for about $25 on eBay.

[Gunstar]

Just got me Atari Jaguar with the Jag CD player both complete in original boxes. Back when they first came out, we had a game shop back in Arkansas called GameMart. I got to try one out there but at the time and for the price, it just wasn't me. i had a chance at one time to get one from a friend but i still wasn't interested. as the years have passed, i've seen the popularity of the Jag rise with all the collectors out there. Especially the Jag CD. I figured being a collector myself and being a big fan of Atari since the 80's, i figured, what the heck. i'd better get one while i can. I really am impressed with this machine. It's just a shame it didn't do better than it did. I have another sealed Jaguar coming that i'm going to keep put up on display and i'm looking forward to getting Black Ice White Noise. Right now i'm playing Doom. Does anyone have any suggestions as to what good games to look for, especially the collectible ones? I've posted a pic of my Jaguar set here.

 

Judging by that photograph of Doom you attached, I'd say the first thing for the Jag you need to invest in is at least a composite cable, if not S-video. That RF picture just doesn't cut it if you really want to enjoy the Jaguar. Of course, since your a long time Atari fan, it's probable that you have an ST RGB monitor, in which case a custom Jag RGB cable can be made or bought for the best possible picture, if you don't mind the small screen. I use S-video and RGB (on an SC1224 13") and it's always a tough decision if I want to play it in S-video on my 32" TV in my Lazyboy, or on my monitor with the incredible picture, but less comfortably at a desktop.

Yeah your right. its not as bad as it seems seeing how the camera took the image but it definitley could be alot better. I hate rf boxes but thats all it came with. I have a 32 sony wega and a mitsubishi 46, both with s-video and composite so i can go with either connection. I'll definitly be picking a cable up for this. Unfortunately, the only monitors i have are my 2 1702 monitors for my commodores. How much would an s-video cablr for the jag run these days?

 

Commodore RGB monitors like the 1084 can also be used with the Jaguar with a custom cable, but unfortunately those 1702's will only give you the same compositeas your TV's, and IIRC, 1702's also have the seperate chroma/lumina RCA jacks on the back, which is the same as modern S-video, but requiring a custom or modded Cable too. And still no better than your large TV's with S-video.

[Pete5125]

getting a Jag regular AV Cable on E-Bay is hit or miss you have to hope Sweetstuff is asleep at the wheel and keep yourself from bidding more then $20 Ive seen them go for $8 recently...probably better bet is that Texas dude or going to the GOAT store

[Brian R.]

Take a search through this forum for "More than Hardware". It's a business run by a guy in Texas who makes cables for older systems. He sells a Jag S-Video cable for about $20.

The Atari-brand one on eBay tends to go for $40+ thanks to Jag speculator sweetsstuf4u.

Also, a regular Jag AV-composite cable goes for about $25 on eBay.

 

Which gives the better picture? I've been using a set of composite cables for the longest time.

 

I do have an S-video cable here that I don't use...

[AtariMan1976]

Take a search through this forum for "More than Hardware". It's a business run by a guy in Texas who makes cables for older systems. He sells a Jag S-Video cable for about $20.

The Atari-brand one on eBay tends to go for $40+ thanks to Jag speculator sweetsstuf4u.

Also, a regular Jag AV-composite cable goes for about $25 on eBay.

 

Which gives the better picture? I've been using a set of composite cables for the longest time.

 

I do have an S-video cable here that I don't use...

S-video gives the best signal over composite, but to the eye, its not much difference. I'd be interested in which ever one you want to get rid of if your interested and not using it.

Edited July 5, 2007 by AtariMan1976

[ls650]

S-video gives the best signal over composite, but to the eye, its not much difference.

It depends on your TV. I can see a significant difference between AV and SVideo on my set: sharper edges, richer colors, etc.

On a scale of 1 to 10, if RF is a 4 or 5 and AV is a 7, I'd give SVideo an 8 or 9.

[Gunstar]

Take a search through this forum for "More than Hardware". It's a business run by a guy in Texas who makes cables for older systems. He sells a Jag S-Video cable for about $20.

The Atari-brand one on eBay tends to go for $40+ thanks to Jag speculator sweetsstuf4u.

Also, a regular Jag AV-composite cable goes for about $25 on eBay.

 

Which gives the better picture? I've been using a set of composite cables for the longest time.

 

I do have an S-video cable here that I don't use...

S-video gives the best signal over composite, but to the eye, its not much difference. I'd be interested in which ever one you want to get rid of if your interested and not using it.

 

Your vision must not be the best(or your TV sucks), becuase the S-video gives a MUCH sharper image than composite, and all the edge-crawl disappears and color is richer too! I refuse to even use composite, let alone RF, after using S-video, it's that much better.

I have actually installed S-video circuits in my VCR, LaserDisc and RCA Selectavision CED players (which only had composite or RF out) becuase I couldn't stand watching them with composite, after getting used to my other equipment like consoles and DVD that had S-video. I've upgraded every item I own with RF or video output to S-video if it didn't already have it! It's THAT much better, IMHO. And it's no easy task to do all that, you HAVE to know a LOT about electronics to do such modifications and the circuits are relatively complicated.

Edited July 5, 2007 by Gunstar

[Brian R.]

Take a search through this forum for "More than Hardware". It's a business run by a guy in Texas who makes cables for older systems. He sells a Jag S-Video cable for about $20.

The Atari-brand one on eBay tends to go for $40+ thanks to Jag speculator sweetsstuf4u.

Also, a regular Jag AV-composite cable goes for about $25 on eBay.

 

Which gives the better picture? I've been using a set of composite cables for the longest time.

 

I do have an S-video cable here that I don't use...

S-video gives the best signal over composite, but to the eye, its not much difference. I'd be interested in which ever one you want to get rid of if your interested and not using it.

 

Your vision must not be the best(or your TV sucks), becuase the S-video gives a MUCH sharper image than composite, and all the edge-crawl disappears and color is richer too! I refuse to even use composite, let alone RF, after using S-video, it's that much better.

I have actually installed S-video circuits in my VCR, LaserDisc and RCA Selectavision CED players (which only had composite or RF out) becuase I couldn't stand watching them with composite, after getting used to my other equipment like consoles and DVD that had S-video. I've upgraded every item I own with RF or video output to S-video if it didn't already have it! It's THAT much better, IMHO. And it's no easy task to do all that, you HAVE to know a LOT about electronics to do such modifications and the circuits are relatively complicated.

 

So if I get this right, quality goes from RF to composite to S video to component. Right?

 

Composite is the choice for me now because I run my Jag through the front jacks on my VCR. With my current setup it's all I can do.

[EmOneGarand]

Take a search through this forum for "More than Hardware". It's a business run by a guy in Texas who makes cables for older systems. He sells a Jag S-Video cable for about $20.

The Atari-brand one on eBay tends to go for $40+ thanks to Jag speculator sweetsstuf4u.

Also, a regular Jag AV-composite cable goes for about $25 on eBay.

 

Which gives the better picture? I've been using a set of composite cables for the longest time.

 

I do have an S-video cable here that I don't use...

S-video gives the best signal over composite, but to the eye, its not much difference. I'd be interested in which ever one you want to get rid of if your interested and not using it.

 

Your vision must not be the best(or your TV sucks), becuase the S-video gives a MUCH sharper image than composite, and all the edge-crawl disappears and color is richer too! I refuse to even use composite, let alone RF, after using S-video, it's that much better.

I have actually installed S-video circuits in my VCR, LaserDisc and RCA Selectavision CED players (which only had composite or RF out) becuase I couldn't stand watching them with composite, after getting used to my other equipment like consoles and DVD that had S-video. I've upgraded every item I own with RF or video output to S-video if it didn't already have it! It's THAT much better, IMHO. And it's no easy task to do all that, you HAVE to know a LOT about electronics to do such modifications and the circuits are relatively complicated.

You have a Selectavision deck AND you modded it for S-video, hah hah awesome.

[AtariMan1976]

Take a search through this forum for "More than Hardware". It's a business run by a guy in Texas who makes cables for older systems. He sells a Jag S-Video cable for about $20.

The Atari-brand one on eBay tends to go for $40+ thanks to Jag speculator sweetsstuf4u.

Also, a regular Jag AV-composite cable goes for about $25 on eBay.

 

Which gives the better picture? I've been using a set of composite cables for the longest time.

 

I do have an S-video cable here that I don't use...

S-video gives the best signal over composite, but to the eye, its not much difference. I'd be interested in which ever one you want to get rid of if your interested and not using it.

 

Your vision must not be the best(or your TV sucks), becuase the S-video gives a MUCH sharper image than composite, and all the edge-crawl disappears and color is richer too! I refuse to even use composite, let alone RF, after using S-video, it's that much better.

I have actually installed S-video circuits in my VCR, LaserDisc and RCA Selectavision CED players (which only had composite or RF out) becuase I couldn't stand watching them with composite, after getting used to my other equipment like consoles and DVD that had S-video. I've upgraded every item I own with RF or video output to S-video if it didn't already have it! It's THAT much better, IMHO. And it's no easy task to do all that, you HAVE to know a LOT about electronics to do such modifications and the circuits are relatively complicated.

[AtariMan1976]

Take a search through this forum for "More than Hardware". It's a business run by a guy in Texas who makes cables for older systems. He sells a Jag S-Video cable for about $20.

The Atari-brand one on eBay tends to go for $40+ thanks to Jag speculator sweetsstuf4u.

Also, a regular Jag AV-composite cable goes for about $25 on eBay.

 

Which gives the better picture? I've been using a set of composite cables for the longest time.

 

I do have an S-video cable here that I don't use...

S-video gives the best signal over composite, but to the eye, its not much difference. I'd be interested in which ever one you want to get rid of if your interested and not using it.

 

Your vision must not be the best(or your TV sucks), becuase the S-video gives a MUCH sharper image than composite, and all the edge-crawl disappears and color is richer too! I refuse to even use composite, let alone RF, after using S-video, it's that much better.

I have actually installed S-video circuits in my VCR, LaserDisc and RCA Selectavision CED players (which only had composite or RF out) becuase I couldn't stand watching them with composite, after getting used to my other equipment like consoles and DVD that had S-video. I've upgraded every item I own with RF or video output to S-video if it didn't already have it! It's THAT much better, IMHO. And it's no easy task to do all that, you HAVE to know a LOT about electronics to do such modifications and the circuits are relatively complicated.

Hey i didn't ask for criticism here. For one my tv's don't suck because they are both $1500.00 tv sets and are very clear when used with the right equipment. Two, There is nothing wrong with my vision, i don't know why you have to say things like you did. Anyway, all i was saying, is its no real big deal, i mean i know s-video is better and it does give the better quality. Why do you think i said it was better in the first place? I should know. I've been working on and using video equipment for years.

[AtariMan1976]

S-video gives the best signal over composite, but to the eye, its not much difference.

It depends on your TV. I can see a significant difference between AV and SVideo on my set: sharper edges, richer colors, etc.

On a scale of 1 to 10, if RF is a 4 or 5 and AV is a 7, I'd give SVideo an 8 or 9.

See, just like you said if av is a 7, then s-video is only an 8 or 9 above that, then component video is a 10

[AtariMan1976]

Theres a far bigger difference between s-video and rf than s-video and composite. I wasn't saying it wasn't better. Its just not a real real big deal when going from composite to s-video as it would be if you were using an rf box, then when to s-video. Real big change there. Right now, the only thing i have using s-video is my dvd player, the rest is mostly composite and like 2 rf boxes. I'm not loaded with money to go out and replcae all my cables or go modding everything i got. Theres no way i could handle doing all that right now. I'm sorry if you think i don't know the difference but i do.