Sony's Jack Tretton: Wii is a "lollipop", 360 an "unreliable cook"

[8th lutz]

http://gamepro.com/gamepro/domestic/games/...es/122948.shtml

 

Jack Tretton makes the comments about the 2 systems in an interview with gamepro.com. The comments are found on page 2 while calling his system Surf 'n Turf.

 

The full answer to one of the questions of the interview was the follwing was the Following:

 

How would you describe each current game console if you had to describe it as a meal or food?

 

JT: I probably couldn't do it objectively.

 

You don't need to be objective!

 

I think the PS3 is the Surf 'n Turf. You want the lobster and steak and you're going to give yourself the treat of getting the best thing on the menu. The PS2 is your favorite burger restaurant -- you go there for comfort food and it's just always good and is a good value.

 

[As for the other two consoles], one [Wii] is a lollipop, and I'm too old for lollipops. The other one [Xbox 360] I get sick from once in a while because the cook isn't always reliable.

 

There are other parts of the interview, but this was the highlight of the interview with it.

 

I've had surf'n Turf before and it tastes great, but the ps 3 is not surf'n Turf at this time. The ps 1 and the ps 2 are only Sony Home gaming console systems I considered Surf'n Turf at this time. It is too early to tell with the ps 3.

 

I understand called the 360 unreliable cook due to the red rings of death with the system. The wii comparsion is outdated. Nintendo is aiming at a different audience then the 360 and the ps 3, but the system is not completely aimed at kids. The wii is also aimed at people who aren't gamers and those people are adults.

[Gregory DG]

The PS3 is sour grapes.

[TailChao]

The PS3 is sour grapes.

Brown sour grapes.

[Jess Ragan]

It's more fitting to call the Playstation 3 the steak that a disgruntled chef stuck in his pants and rubbed on his crotch before serving it to the unsuspecting customer. Also, if a lollipop is manly enough for Ving Rhames and Telly Savales, it's way too cool for a petty little asshole like Jack Tretton.

 

JR

[2600Lives]

The words of a desperate man trying to run down competitors that are absolutely destroying him.

 

Sony is just mad because they lost the dominance of the market, period. Also mad because Nintendo is once again leading the pack with innovative ideas.

[Atari5200]

I have to agree with him. The PS3 is probably the best hardware choice, the hardware is not having as many problems as the 360 and it's obviously better than the Wii. The lack of games and price point is hurting the PS3. I completely agree with the Nintendo reference and not for just the Wii but the DS as well, and I also agree with him on the 360. I've had my 360 for about 9 months now and so far so good, no problems what-so-ever.

[Gabriel]

It's more fitting to call the Playstation 3 the steak that a disgruntled chef stuck in his pants and rubbed on his crotch before serving it to the unsuspecting customer. Also, if a lollipop is manly enough for Ving Rhames and Telly Savales, it's way too cool for a petty little asshole like Jack Tretton.

 

While the Wii is the burger you got at McDonalds where the minimum wage jockey dropped the meat on the floor, but instead of cooking a new patty for you they just slap it on your burger anyway. "They can't tell the difference."

 

The 360 is like pizza delivery. The big pizzas cost exorbitant amounts, but there are frequent coupons for good deals. You always have to go to the store to get the big orders, but they'll deliver the little orders to you. Oh, and every tiny little thing is an extra charge. The pizza is a charge, delivery is a charge, the little cup of cheese sauce is a extra charge, the packet of peppers is an extra charge, etc. All in all, it's still a pizza, but there's a growing list of toppings.

[jboypacman]

Sounds like Jack Tretton is doing damage control.

[Lord Helmet]

I have to agree with him. The PS3 is probably the best hardware choice

 

 

That's a given. From a hardware standpoint, the PS3 is the best system out there, and not really too expensive if you consider what the average BRD player goes for. There just aren't any games that anyone wants to play (other than Resistance). If there was 5 games I wanted to play for the thing...I'd go buy one today without a thought.

[Atari5200]

yeah but read other people's responses. The guy is right though, the PS3 is the top of the line, there's nothing that anybody can say to deny that, it is top dog for hardware. The Wii is the most under powered of the 3 so it's the lolli pop and the 360 is having it's problems with quality. I don't see any reference to the actual games in the first posts, so this guy is correct. Now had he been talking software, then he's dead wrong.

[jboypacman]

Yeah PS3 is the top choice for hardware but like everyone is saying its about the software and the PS3 just doesnt have it yet.

 

Give them time and they will but its hurting them at the moment and the high price for the PS3 isnt helping them either.

 

I dont know about the rest of you but am a limited budget so i have to be picky on what i choose to spend my money on and $500 is just to much for me to be spending on a game system and thats before in-store service plan,extra controller,and games.

 

The Wii may be a lollipop but its much cheaper and has appeal to all ages plus with all thoses NES and SNES games for download off the Virtual Console which you wont get on the PS3 or Xbox360 it really has people interested.

 

Now Xbox360 should be in a really good position you would think seening that they were out of the gate first but once the excitement wore off and all the problems with the units began it seems to me it has slowed down abit as far as sells.

 

I know people that are waiting for Halo3 before they buy a 360 because that is going to be the killer app for it much as GTA will be for the PS3 i think.Surprisingly Zelda was to be this for the Wii but it seemed to get little fanfare.

 

There all good systems and have there fans.I myself am going to get a Wii at some point and have no plans for any of the others but thats just me.

Edited July 18, 2007 by jboypacman

[Atari5200]

you can't count GTA as the killer app for the PS3 because it's also being released on the 360. A killer app in my opinion would need to be an exclusive, like Gears for the 360 was a killer app. The 360 does have some good/great games already and I do agree that it probably should be farther along than where it is now, and the quality issues certainly don't help. I don't doubt the PS3 will eventually get there as far as software goes, right now though, I still think the best bang for your buck is with the 360, but that's my opinion.

[jboypacman]

What about God of War,Rachet and Clank, Jak and Dexter,and Sly Cooper.As far as i know these should all be Sony Exclusives and they have a pretty big fan base.I know a few people who would pick up a PS3 when any if any of these make over to the system.

[liveinabin]

It doesn't matter what he says. His company are getting their asses handed to them on a daily basis by Nintendo. Who'd have thought that a couple of years ago?

[2600Lives]

How very many times has this happened, though. You have a KILLER gaming system...but no quality games. It's not hardware that makes a good system, it's games, PERIOD. Without quality software, you have an expensive doorstop.

 

The only (and I do mean only) reason I'd ever get a PS3 is for Metal Gear Solid 4. Though, I'd wager than within maybe 2 years of it's release, it'll find it's way to the 360.

 

The PS3 isn't a gigantic step up from the 360, either, in terms of hardware. It's like comparing two souped up hot-rods. Sure, under the hood they may be a little different, but they both go fast as hell, and that's what matters. I'm no Microsoft fanboy (I used to be a die-hard Sony lover), but the PS3 hasn't shown me a damn thing to make me go buy it, and it's losing exclusive titles left and right. This holiday, most of the big hits are going to be multi-platform, especially stuff like Rock Band and Guitar Hero 3. Nintendo, as almost always, has the least powerful system of the batch, but they will rely on high quality games and serious innovation to drive their sales. In fact, I may get me a Wii soon, as stuff like Metroid Prime 3 and Umbrella Chronicles look too good to pass up.

[warmachine]

The words "nintendo" and "innovation" seem to be tossed togeather quite a bit lately even though they have been polar

opposites since the abortion that was the virtual boy.

Unless "innovation" means using ideas from failed platforms and claiming to be the originators of those ideas, then,

I guess those two words would compliment each other quite nicely.

[jboypacman]

Again the Wii is just a fun and afforable system that everybody can play.I could care less about "innovation" or whats under the hood of the thing.

[+davidcalgary29]

How very many times has this happened, though. You have a KILLER gaming system...but no quality games. It's not hardware that makes a good system, it's games, PERIOD. Without quality software, you have an expensive doorstop.

 

Hey...maybe Sony SHOULD buy the Atari name after all!

 

The only (and I do mean only) reason I'd ever get a PS3 is for Metal Gear Solid 4. Though, I'd wager than within maybe 2 years of it's release, it'll find it's way to the 360.

 

As others have mentioned, I can't justify the purchase of a new console based on potential alone. Until I see more (and better) games for both the 360 and the PS3, I'll stick to orphaned systems (e.g. Dreamcast) whose libraries I can cherry-pick, and the PSP, which now has a few quality titles available for it.

Edited July 18, 2007 by davidcalgary29

[2600Lives]

Hey, the Virtual Boy was just too ahead of it's time. I love the hell out of that little system.

 

Lessee here...Nintendo's innovations...how 'bout, the Rumble Pak? Sony stole it later on with their Dual Shock. The DS? The Gameboy, the first true cartridge based handheld system (I'm not counting that one that came out in the early 80's, as it wasn't really cartridge based). Shoulder buttons on game controllers...The Power Glove (ok, it sucked, but it was still pretty damn innovative), and that's not even counting anything at all on the Wii.

 

No, Nintendo never innovates at all.

 

I'm really enjoying my 360. Stuff like Dead Rising, GH2, Condemned, and all the great downloadable stuff have really won me over. Besides, I've got to have a decent next-gen system for when Rock Band comes out!

[Jess Ragan]

Sounds like Jack Tretton is doing damage control.

 

When does he get to the control part?

 

JR

[n8littlefield]

Sounds like Jack Tretton is doing damage control.

 

When does he get to the control part?

 

JR

Pretty sure he does it sometime after he's done criticizing the 360 for having hardware flaws - since you know, there were NO flaws with the PS1 or PS2

 

That's ok though - the longer Sony sees Nintendo as "OMG Kiddiez" and "Have a Lollipop Baby" the longer it gives Nintendo to stretch out it's already crazy lead over the PS3. I went from no Nintendo consoles since the NES to ONLY having Nintendo platforms this generation, and it's a ton of fun. Now Sony seems intent to act like an ostrich with its head in the sand and it just pushes the 3rd parties my way even more quickly.

[Curt Vendel]

At one time a Cray supercomputer was Surf n Turf...

 

The PC at the time - I guess it would've been considered a tick-tack.

 

 

Where is Cray Research today....

 

 

What good is super hardware, with a price point most can't afford or don't want to pay. The Wii, a technically inferior system, but a hell of a lot of fun to play, bottom line - Nintendo said screw the GPU's, make the games fun, and that is what people want.

 

XB360 has its hw issues, but MS is getting right in and taking the lead on getting it corrected, its a solid system with a very solid line of games and services, something sorely lacking on the PS3 front.

 

 

 

 

Curt

 

 

I have to agree with him. The PS3 is probably the best hardware choice, the hardware is not having as many problems as the 360 and it's obviously better than the Wii. The lack of games and price point is hurting the PS3. I completely agree with the Nintendo reference and not for just the Wii but the DS as well, and I also agree with him on the 360. I've had my 360 for about 9 months now and so far so good, no problems what-so-ever.

[Atarifever]

I forget, how many lollipops are generally sold compared to orders of surf and turf? I'd imagine it's an apt comparison in that light. He forgot the part in the Xbox comparison where he said "but they always replace your meal for up to three years, and the food selection there is much better than the surf N' Turf joint, at a lower price".

Edited July 18, 2007 by Atarifever

[Brad2600]

Sony scores another "D'oh" moment.

 

Homer Simpson would be proud of this one.

 

I'll simplify it for folks:

 

360: Jelly Donut

Wii: Double Chocolate Glazed donut

PS3: Stale, day old plain donut.

[AtariJr]

The words "nintendo" and "innovation" seem to be tossed togeather quite a bit lately even though they have been polar

opposites since the abortion that was the virtual boy.

Unless "innovation" means using ideas from failed platforms and claiming to be the originators of those ideas, then,

I guess those two words would compliment each other quite nicely.

 

thats like saying sony sucks just because the ps3 is doing poor...

 

nintendo came up with MANY innovations, some of which include the idea of a dpad and gamepad like we use today vs the old joystick type controllers, and the use of the analog stick on the n64 which , im PRETTY sure, everyone has copied off of.

 

and yea, this is what you get when a company is backed into a corner.. just like any animal it starts to show its fangs and gets defensive. while microsoft seems all chummy in interviews about the wii, i can guarantee you that if the ps3 AND Wii were kicking the 360's ass in sales, they would diss both systems as well. when sega was losing the fight vs the first playstation they had MANY commercials that talked a bunch of shit about the ps and how weak it was because it didnt have more than one processor. companies have always said things that arent true when they have competition walking all over them just so they sound better. and no, i dont see the console wars as a hardware performance or the neo geo would have killed the saturn in sales in japan. the console wars are about the console AND the games.. and simply put, playstation isn't producing as many as M$ and nintendo. it's too expensive, so people dont buy, so devs dont make games because people dont buy the system, so consumers dont buy the system because there are no games.... that is the circle of pain ps3 seems to be stuck in. lets hope this stops soon with the price drops.