Sony's Jack Tretton: Wii is a "lollipop", 360 an "unreliable cook"

[warmachine]

nintendo came up with MANY innovations, some of which include the idea of a dpad and gamepad like we use today vs the old joystick type controllers, and the use of the analog stick on the n64 which , im PRETTY sure, everyone has copied off of.

 

Because everyone knows that there were no analog controlls before the "NINTENDO SIXTY-FOUR ROAR".

 

It seems like a alot of people are starting to belive nintendos version of video game history,

which means that there were simply no video games at all, what-so-ever, before the NES. Amen.

That's right, Super Mario Bros. was the first video game......ever.

[AtariJr]

nintendo came up with MANY innovations, some of which include the idea of a dpad and gamepad like we use today vs the old joystick type controllers, and the use of the analog stick on the n64 which , im PRETTY sure, everyone has copied off of.

 

Because everyone knows that there were no analog controlls before the "NINTENDO SIXTY-FOUR ROAR".

 

It seems like a alot of people are starting to belive nintendos version of video game history,

which means that there were simply no video games at all, what-so-ever, before the NES. Amen.

That's right, Super Mario Bros. was the first video game......ever.

 

no, i never said that.. and i started playing games well before we owned an nes. however, just because these games existed before it doesnt mean that the n64 didnt make the analog stick a requirment of sorts for controllers, or for that matter the dpad as well. hell, it seems even the motion sensing has been copied already. while most of their innovations existed in some way before they put it out, its the way they used the hardware in a gaming controller that is what is innovative. for instance, while a radio and a car are, and were two different inventions.. the person who thought of putting the radio IN the car is a genius and is very innovative as i don't believe that many cars if at all dont have one.

 

ps: if anything "ROARED", and as badly as you did it, that would be the Jaguar.

[CPUWIZ]

nintendo came up with MANY innovations, some of which include the idea of a dpad and gamepad like we use today vs the old joystick type controllers, and the use of the analog stick on the n64 which , im PRETTY sure, everyone has copied off of.

 

Because everyone knows that there were no analog controlls before the "NINTENDO SIXTY-FOUR ROAR".

 

Yep, Atari really used a time-machine, went into the future and stole the idea from Nintendo, so they could implement it into the 5200 controller. Everyone knows that.

[warmachine]

it seems even the motion sensing has been copied already. while most of their innovations existed in some way before they put it out, its the way they used the hardware in a gaming controller that is what is innovative

 

notable exceptions to the above include the xavix port, the dreamcast's fishing controller, a mid air flight stick produced

by a third party sometime in the early 90's for the nes/genesis, and a motion controlled baseball bat for "world series baseball" on the genesis.

[cimerians]

I own all three lucky enough. I love my evil PS3.

 

To some people video games began with the NES.

 

Maybe just maybe........if there was no pitfall.....there be no Super Mario Brothers.

[A Sprite]

Nintendo may not create many new ideas, but they twist old ones like taffy to the point where it doesn't matter. Take analogue control; the 5200 joystick is famous for lying down on the job, breaking down under normal conditions - what's to boast about? Nintendo deserves every credit for bringing it back as the standard for controlling a character in 3-d space...

[Atarifever]

This is so lame. It is lame everytime it happens. According to the silly ass-backwards logic that always pops up in these debates indoor plumbing wasn't an innovation because nature invented flowing water first. I'm an Atari fanboy, who got into an argument here lately over Nintendo's rewriting history to not include pre NES stuff, and even I can't be blind enough to claim the N64 analog controller wasn't an innovation. That'd be crazy talk.

 

They took something that had bombed miserably and been subsequently shelved for over a decade, brought it back when they saw how awesome it was for the new 3D type of gameplay (something Sony, Atari, 3D0, and Sega had all missed), and made it into the standard. That's innovation. Sorry, that cannot be argued. Stop answering Nintendo's revisionist history by revising it with silly lies yourselves. Give credit where it's due and not where it isn't.

 

This "side winder" joystick or whatever it was called stuff isn't even worth addressing. It's stupid.

[Segataritensoftii]

The Gameboy, the first true cartridge based handheld system (I'm not counting that one that came out in the early 80's, as it wasn't really cartridge based).

Actually, the first true programmable cartridge based system was the Epoch Game Pocket Computer, released in 1984. It only came out in Japan and had just 5 games released for it. I guess everybody was too caught up in Famicom mania to pay attention to this jewel. Here's a picture.

[jboypacman]

Hey that Game Pocket looks cool what type of games this thing have on it ?

[+remowilliams]

The Gameboy, the first true cartridge based handheld system (I'm not counting that one that came out in the early 80's, as it wasn't really cartridge based).

Actually, the first true programmable cartridge based system was the Epoch Game Pocket Computer, released in 1984. It only came out in Japan and had just 5 games released for it. I guess everybody was too caught up in Famicom mania to pay attention to this jewel. Here's a picture.

The Microvision (1979) was certainly cartridge based. As a matter of fact there's the innovation of a CPU in every game cart.

Edited July 20, 2007 by remowilliams

[JimmydelaKopin]

All I'm going to say is that when I read the title of this thread, I thought this Jack Tretton was reading a literal translation of a statement his bosses wanted him to say.

I half expected there to be a "Zero Wing" joke.

 

Sheesh, you guys can sure get bent out of shape over these newfangled systems.

I'm still having fun playing Twisted Metal 2 on my PS2...and a Shanghai game on my SNES.

Yall take a half-bottle of chill pills, 'kay?