Atarifever #26 Posted August 24, 2007 There are an awful lot of PC games on the list. All PC games are overrated in my view HAHA! Good one. You said "PC Game". That's like saying "Cancer game" or "Scurvey Game", or "being born with no feet, hands, eyes, or genitals game". None of those things are games Figgler. Those things are all just horrible and unenjoyable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cabal #27 Posted August 24, 2007 That list was really poor, Far Cry and Generals underrated? Both are overrated. There's a lot of games I'd like to say are underrated like Shenmue, Ico, and the like,; but the huge cult following for those gives them more notice than those I feel I really should list like: Original War on PC The Red Star on PS2 Gungrave on PS2 Metal Arms on PS2/Xbox/Gamecube Startropics on NES GI Joe on NES I dislike the fact that my list is overly "newer" titles, but I'm having trouble remembering any older games that I feel no one seems to care about even though they are excellent. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SINGLE TOOTH #28 Posted August 25, 2007 That list was really poor, Far Cry and Generals underrated? Both are overrated. Oh yeah, Generals was on there.....I don't know why... I was really looking forward to this game before it came out. Then I discovered, the more I played it, the more I hated it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+davidcalgary29 #29 Posted August 25, 2007 Klax is really underrated. It's much more fun than Tetris, but that one still gets the nostaliga market. *shrugs* I always thought that Sierra's Manhunter series was underrated. It had a great storyline, and I kept waiting for Manhunter: London, but no dice. Wishbringer is an underrated Infocom game. I know that many players think that it's simply too easy, but I loved the story and included extras (I kept that glow-in-the-dark "rock" for years!). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyberfluxor #30 Posted August 25, 2007 There are an awful lot of PC games on the list. All PC games are overrated in my view HAHA! Good one. You said "PC Game". That's like saying "Cancer game" or "Scurvey Game", or "being born with no feet, hands, eyes, or genitals game". None of those things are games Figgler. Those things are all just horrible and unenjoyable. Are you claiming ALL PC games are horrible and unenjoyable or the ones selected from the list. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Atarifever #31 Posted August 25, 2007 There are an awful lot of PC games on the list. All PC games are overrated in my view HAHA! Good one. You said "PC Game". That's like saying "Cancer game" or "Scurvey Game", or "being born with no feet, hands, eyes, or genitals game". None of those things are games Figgler. Those things are all just horrible and unenjoyable. Are you claiming ALL PC games are horrible and unenjoyable or the ones selected from the list. All PC games, except Half Life, Half Life 2, Doom (the original), and Wolfenstein 3D. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Segataritensoftii #32 Posted August 25, 2007 There are an awful lot of PC games on the list. All PC games are overrated in my view HAHA! Good one. You said "PC Game". That's like saying "Cancer game" or "Scurvey Game", or "being born with no feet, hands, eyes, or genitals game". None of those things are games Figgler. Those things are all just horrible and unenjoyable. Are you claiming ALL PC games are horrible and unenjoyable or the ones selected from the list. All PC games, except Half Life, Half Life 2, Doom (the original), and Wolfenstein 3D. What don't you like about PC games other than the ones you just mentioned? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Atarifever #33 Posted August 25, 2007 What don't you like about PC games other than the ones you just mentioned? It's more like what don't I like about PC gaming. The default control scheme is great for some games, but complete garbage for most others. In order to play a console, you put a box next to your TV for 5 years. In order to play a PC you need to continuiously add stuff in, tinker with options, and in about four years just toss out the whole thing for another $1000+ monstrosity. With a console you can look forward to, easily, a couple dozen great games a year. With a PC you can look forward to a couple games a year, maybe. I think most PC games are just too much trouble for too little reward. Case in point, Doom 3 got all hyped up and all kinds of people were upgrading just to play it. In the end, I think it was complete trash, and pity the people who spent extra money just to play it. Meanwhile, for the Xbox you could just buy it flat out and the most you would have to risk was the cost of the terrible game. Of course there are exceptions. The Half Life games would be worth nearly any amount of trouble. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyberfluxor #34 Posted August 25, 2007 What don't you like about PC games other than the ones you just mentioned? It's more like what don't I like about PC gaming. The default control scheme is great for some games, but complete garbage for most others. In order to play a console, you put a box next to your TV for 5 years. In order to play a PC you need to continuiously add stuff in, tinker with options, and in about four years just toss out the whole thing for another $1000+ monstrosity. With a console you can look forward to, easily, a couple dozen great games a year. With a PC you can look forward to a couple games a year, maybe. I think most PC games are just too much trouble for too little reward. Case in point, Doom 3 got all hyped up and all kinds of people were upgrading just to play it. In the end, I think it was complete trash, and pity the people who spent extra money just to play it. Meanwhile, for the Xbox you could just buy it flat out and the most you would have to risk was the cost of the terrible game. Of course there are exceptions. The Half Life games would be worth nearly any amount of trouble. I disagree with most of your explaination from my point of view. :-/ One thing I must point out however is that hundreds if not thousands of games are being released each year and out of it dozens of great titles actually get published to store shelves. Thus far this year there have already been several great PC/MAC/Linux releases that in my opinion blow away anything I've seen on consoles for 2007 (and I have friends buying the latest PS3, Xbox360 and Wii games). I built my computer 3 years ago for $500 and finally upgraded 4 months ago spending $250 on memory and a video card and have had no problems playing them on very high detail, resolution and shading effects. So for $750 my 3yr old computer is playing just about everything comming out still. The video card I use to have was a freebie that finally died and the RAM just needed a boost, mainly to get more performance from Supreme Commander, Quake 4, Half-Life 2 and a few others. As for control, at least on PC most games allow you to customize not only your keyboard setup but actually change to another input device: joystick, USB controller, flight controller, mouse, steering wheel and so forth. With controller interfaces companies can produce nearly any controller imaginable for a computer, even you can build whatever button monstrosity. With game consoles you're stuck with a very limited selection of controllers unless you build your own and many have fixed control settings to choose from. There really is more diversity in PCs with input devices so I have no idea where your negative control scheme comes from. As for cost of PC vs. console, it's all about how deep your pocket is, however the deeper you go the more superior your computer is compared to a console. Although it could go the other way but if you're planning on getting more than basic use out of a PC you're not about to limit yourself to a $300 computer. Well, I'm beginning to feel silly pointing this out. Overall it appears you have a far different perspective on PC gaming and it really shouldn't matter if you're having a good time on your current setups and don't have regrets. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Atarifever #35 Posted August 25, 2007 What don't you like about PC games other than the ones you just mentioned? It's more like what don't I like about PC gaming. The default control scheme is great for some games, but complete garbage for most others. In order to play a console, you put a box next to your TV for 5 years. In order to play a PC you need to continuiously add stuff in, tinker with options, and in about four years just toss out the whole thing for another $1000+ monstrosity. With a console you can look forward to, easily, a couple dozen great games a year. With a PC you can look forward to a couple games a year, maybe. I think most PC games are just too much trouble for too little reward. Case in point, Doom 3 got all hyped up and all kinds of people were upgrading just to play it. In the end, I think it was complete trash, and pity the people who spent extra money just to play it. Meanwhile, for the Xbox you could just buy it flat out and the most you would have to risk was the cost of the terrible game. Of course there are exceptions. The Half Life games would be worth nearly any amount of trouble. I disagree with most of your explaination from my point of view. :-/ One thing I must point out however is that hundreds if not thousands of games are being released each year and out of it dozens of great titles actually get published to store shelves. Thus far this year there have already been several great PC/MAC/Linux releases that in my opinion blow away anything I've seen on consoles for 2007 (and I have friends buying the latest PS3, Xbox360 and Wii games). I built my computer 3 years ago for $500 and finally upgraded 4 months ago spending $250 on memory and a video card and have had no problems playing them on very high detail, resolution and shading effects. So for $750 my 3yr old computer is playing just about everything comming out still. The video card I use to have was a freebie that finally died and the RAM just needed a boost, mainly to get more performance from Supreme Commander, Quake 4, Half-Life 2 and a few others. As for control, at least on PC most games allow you to customize not only your keyboard setup but actually change to another input device: joystick, USB controller, flight controller, mouse, steering wheel and so forth. With controller interfaces companies can produce nearly any controller imaginable for a computer, even you can build whatever button monstrosity. With game consoles you're stuck with a very limited selection of controllers unless you build your own and many have fixed control settings to choose from. There really is more diversity in PCs with input devices so I have no idea where your negative control scheme comes from. As for cost of PC vs. console, it's all about how deep your pocket is, however the deeper you go the more superior your computer is compared to a console. Although it could go the other way but if you're planning on getting more than basic use out of a PC you're not about to limit yourself to a $300 computer. Well, I'm beginning to feel silly pointing this out. Overall it appears you have a far different perspective on PC gaming and it really shouldn't matter if you're having a good time on your current setups and don't have regrets. Well $750 for three years does feel like a lot to me when I generally get about five years for half that. However, you are right about control schemes. In my defense I said the default control scheme was worse for most types of games (I especially hated using a mouse until the laser mice came out, as paddle controllers required less maintainance that wheel mice). However, you are right that alternatives are much more varied on the computer (although my 7800 controller collection is getting to be pretty broad). I don't see that many great PC games coming out every year, I really don't. I see a lot of clever flash stuff (Like this totally incredible Metal Slug clone), some interesting freeware games, and a handful of real console quality releases, but the PC industry just feels, I don't know, dead I guess. Like you said, if you're happy with that type of gaming, good. It is certainly not something for me to try to change. I just can't see getting into it myself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyberfluxor #36 Posted August 26, 2007 Well about my computer, I have a few here that are 8+ years old and still get use. Although all of them have older DOS/MAC games installed on them one is a dedicated MAME box. I also have one that's a dual P3 with server software to host audio/video streams, game servers and as a developer machine with remote access to certain things on my network. There are two older machines running windows98 just so visiters can play older network games like Total Annihilation, Descent II, Age of Empires and Half-life without bringing a computer of their own over. Most computers I own were either free as a gift or under $50 from auctions I've been to. The major reason my main system has cost me $750 is because I'm a computer student in college so not only did I need something to play the latest games but to also fulfill my needs for graphic design (CAD, video editing), faster processor than my old 600Mhz for compiling software and enough power + memory to handle my multi-tasking. It's just been an overall good investment for my daily operations and entertainment which should give me an extended 2-3 years of good performance. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kirin jensen #37 Posted August 27, 2007 I've said it before and I'll say it again - Freedom Fighters. The O2/G7000 game? Definitely doesn't get the love it so richly deseves. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites