Boxed Mr Do Castle, Quest for Quintana Roo and other rare games...

[Atarimania]

Hi,

 

I added another lot of rare boxed games on ebay including : Mr Do!s Castle, Quest for quintana Roo from Sunrise, 32 in 1 from Dynacom, rare Taïwan games, italian bit corporation Mostro Marino...

 

Ebay link

 

Thanks for looking

 

Franck

[homerwannabee]

Hi,

 

I added another lot of rare boxed games on ebay including : Mr Do!s Castle, Quest for quintana Roo from Sunrise, 32 in 1 from Dynacom, rare Taïwan games, italian bit corporation Mostro Marino...

 

Ebay link

 

Thanks for looking

 

Franck

As a word of advice on Mr. Do!s Castle. If you have the cardboard piece that holds the cart, then you really should include that as well. There have been boxed Mr. Do Castle's that have gone way lower in value at the end of auction because there was no picture showing that.

Edited August 28, 2007 by homerwannabee

[Atarimania]

Hi,

 

Thanks for the advise. Auction updated

[the 5th ghost]

As a word of advice on Mr. Do!s Castle. If you have the cardboard piece that holds the cart, then you really should include that as well. There have been boxed Mr. Do Castle's that have gone way lower in value at the end of auction because there was no picture showing that.

 

It could also be the molded white plastic insert with this title, as seen with mars' Do!'s Castle that was sold here recently.

[pangasinan]

Why have you got all your items ending the exact same time,making it really difficult to make a last bid on more than one item ?

[Zwackery]

Why have you got all your items ending the exact same time,making it really difficult to make a last bid on more than one item ?

Just put in your max and be done.

 

Unless you plan on sniping?!?

 

Uh oh, better not open up that old topic.

[lemoncurry]

Use a sniping service! Or is that not "sporting?"

Edited August 30, 2007 by lemoncurry

[Atarimania]

Why have you got all your items ending the exact same time,making it really difficult to make a last bid on more than one item ?

I use Turbo Lister.....

 

24h left.....

[iwan-iwanowitsch-goratschin]

Mr Do´s castle is gone........

[DreamTR]

atarimania: where were you when I was offering $550 for that game for a year? COuld have made double your money...

[homerwannabee]

atarimania: where were you when I was offering $550 for that game for a year? COuld have made double your money...

You know at the time I actually thought you were not offering enough. Boy how things can change in such a sort period of time. It really sucks to see super rare games like this decline in value. It is not good for any hobby when collectors lose money on items they prieviously paid higher prices for.

[iwan-iwanowitsch-goratschin]

Would you say that 300$ is to less for Mr Do´s castle?

[DreamTR]

atarimania: As little as that game popped up with a box, less than $300 is way cheap. There were at least 3 people offering $500+ for that game and I was one of them. DO you have a boxed NTSC X-Man?

[the 5th ghost]

You know at the time I actually thought you were not offering enough. Boy how things can change in such a sort period of time. It really sucks to see super rare games like this decline in value. It is not good for any hobby when collectors lose money on items they prieviously paid higher prices for.

 

But you also have to factor in that those $500+ offers were placed by eager collectors that just wanted to be done with their Parker Bros collections. It's a simple strategy: dangle that carrot (in this example, $500+) in hopes of getting a bite. This is usually how the big spenders get it done.

 

But that doesn't automatically mean that every CIB Mr. Do!'s Castle is now supposed to be worth that to every collector. I feel it ended at what it should normally end for. So, I think it's fair to say that no decline in value is taking place here.

 

If you want to talk bargain, look at the Quest for Quintanna Roo this seller had

[Zwackery]

You know at the time I actually thought you were not offering enough. Boy how things can change in such a sort period of time. It really sucks to see super rare games like this decline in value. It is not good for any hobby when collectors lose money on items they prieviously paid higher prices for.

 

But you also have to factor in that those $500+ offers were placed by eager collectors that just wanted to be done with their Parker Bros collections. It's a simple strategy: dangle that carrot (in this example, $500+) in hopes of getting a bite. This is usually how the big spenders get it done.

 

But that doesn't automatically mean that every CIB Mr. Do!'s Castle is now supposed to be worth that to every collector. I feel it ended at what it should normally end for. So, I think it's fair to say that no decline in value is taking place here.

 

If you want to talk bargain, look at the Quest for Quintanna Roo this seller had

 

I agree with 5th ghost on this one. I believe that $275 for a CIB Mr. Do's Castle is the standard market value of this cart right now, so selling for US $276.23 + about another $13.50 for shipping puts it right around the actual street value.

 

As for the Sunrise version of Quest for Quintana Roo, CIB I would put this around $75. This copy, however, was only box and cart, so total with shipping was $71.16 + another $12 to get the "manual" from atari2600.com. Not what I'd call a bargain, but pretty close to the current market value.

[Buyatari]

I agree. The $600 price tag was an above market offer.

[homerwannabee]

You know at the time I actually thought you were not offering enough. Boy how things can change in such a sort period of time. It really sucks to see super rare games like this decline in value. It is not good for any hobby when collectors lose money on items they prieviously paid higher prices for.

 

But you also have to factor in that those $500+ offers were placed by eager collectors that just wanted to be done with their Parker Bros collections. It's a simple strategy: dangle that carrot (in this example, $500+) in hopes of getting a bite. This is usually how the big spenders get it done.

 

But that doesn't automatically mean that every CIB Mr. Do!'s Castle is now supposed to be worth that to every collector. I feel it ended at what it should normally end for. So, I think it's fair to say that no decline in value is taking place here.

 

If you want to talk bargain, look at the Quest for Quintanna Roo this seller had

 

I agree with 5th ghost on this one. I believe that $275 for a CIB Mr. Do's Castle is the standard market value of this cart right now, so selling for US $276.23 + about another $13.50 for shipping puts it right around the actual street value.

 

As for the Sunrise version of Quest for Quintana Roo, CIB I would put this around $75. This copy, however, was only box and cart, so total with shipping was $71.16 + another $12 to get the "manual" from atari2600.com. Not what I'd call a bargain, but pretty close to the current market value.

 

Just out of curiousity since you seem so sure of yourself. Where exactly are you getting your numbers for how much a CIB Mr. Do's Castle And a CIB Sunrise Quest for Quintana Roo should cost. Please if you could, would you point me to the place where someone else got a CIB MR. Do's Castle and also a Sunrise Quest for Quintana Roo for the same price. And if you can't do that, can you atleast explain your rational for thinking this way. I really hate it when people say something should be this price or that price but then give no verafiable proof or even an rational for why they feel this way. Atleast I can give a reason for the price. 2 factors. One the seller is in a foreign country. And second but most importantly, there are more sellers than buyers at the current time. Hence supply is more than the usual supply and demand less than the usual demand.

[iwan-iwanowitsch-goratschin]

You know at the time I actually thought you were not offering enough. Boy how things can change in such a sort period of time. It really sucks to see super rare games like this decline in value. It is not good for any hobby when collectors lose money on items they prieviously paid higher prices for.

 

But you also have to factor in that those $500+ offers were placed by eager collectors that just wanted to be done with their Parker Bros collections. It's a simple strategy: dangle that carrot (in this example, $500+) in hopes of getting a bite. This is usually how the big spenders get it done.

 

But that doesn't automatically mean that every CIB Mr. Do!'s Castle is now supposed to be worth that to every collector. I feel it ended at what it should normally end for. So, I think it's fair to say that no decline in value is taking place here.

 

If you want to talk bargain, look at the Quest for Quintanna Roo this seller had

 

I agree with 5th ghost on this one. I believe that $275 for a CIB Mr. Do's Castle is the standard market value of this cart right now, so selling for US $276.23 + about another $13.50 for shipping puts it right around the actual street value.

 

As for the Sunrise version of Quest for Quintana Roo, CIB I would put this around $75. This copy, however, was only box and cart, so total with shipping was $71.16 + another $12 to get the "manual" from atari2600.com. Not what I'd call a bargain, but pretty close to the current market value.

 

Just out of curiousity since you seem so sure of yourself. Where exactly are you getting your numbers for how much a CIB Mr. Do's Castle And a CIB Sunrise Quest for Quintana Roo should cost. Please if you could, would you point me to the place where someone else got a CIB MR. Do's Castle and also a Sunrise Quest for Quintana Roo for the same price. And if you can't do that, can you atleast explain your rational for thinking this way. I really hate it when people say something should be this price or that price but then give no verafiable proof or even an rational for why they feel this way. Atleast I can give a reason for the price. 2 factors. One the seller is in a foreign country. And second but most importantly, there are more sellers than buyers at the current time. Hence supply is more than the usual supply and demand less than the usual demand.

 

That´s my opinion,too!

[Zwackery]

You know at the time I actually thought you were not offering enough. Boy how things can change in such a sort period of time. It really sucks to see super rare games like this decline in value. It is not good for any hobby when collectors lose money on items they prieviously paid higher prices for.

 

But you also have to factor in that those $500+ offers were placed by eager collectors that just wanted to be done with their Parker Bros collections. It's a simple strategy: dangle that carrot (in this example, $500+) in hopes of getting a bite. This is usually how the big spenders get it done.

 

But that doesn't automatically mean that every CIB Mr. Do!'s Castle is now supposed to be worth that to every collector. I feel it ended at what it should normally end for. So, I think it's fair to say that no decline in value is taking place here.

 

If you want to talk bargain, look at the Quest for Quintanna Roo this seller had

 

I agree with 5th ghost on this one. I believe that $275 for a CIB Mr. Do's Castle is the standard market value of this cart right now, so selling for US $276.23 + about another $13.50 for shipping puts it right around the actual street value.

 

As for the Sunrise version of Quest for Quintana Roo, CIB I would put this around $75. This copy, however, was only box and cart, so total with shipping was $71.16 + another $12 to get the "manual" from atari2600.com. Not what I'd call a bargain, but pretty close to the current market value.

 

Just out of curiousity since you seem so sure of yourself. Where exactly are you getting your numbers for how much a CIB Mr. Do's Castle And a CIB Sunrise Quest for Quintana Roo should cost. Please if you could, would you point me to the place where someone else got a CIB MR. Do's Castle and also a Sunrise Quest for Quintana Roo for the same price. And if you can't do that, can you atleast explain your rational for thinking this way. I really hate it when people say something should be this price or that price but then give no verafiable proof or even an rational for why they feel this way. Atleast I can give a reason for the price. 2 factors. One the seller is in a foreign country. And second but most importantly, there are more sellers than buyers at the current time. Hence supply is more than the usual supply and demand less than the usual demand.

 

Well, homerwannabee, I could also say that you seem so sure of yourself with your pronouncement that $550 was not enough and ask you how you arrive at your numbers, but since I will take the high road here, I will explain where those figures are coming from, based on my last 2-3 years of collecting:

 

1) Watching eBay and tracking the various prices on the high plateau of very rare titles. I have over 400 CIB NTSC 2600 games (and over 450 if I count box variations, pirates, and the occasional PAL cart) and so I keep tabs on the last rare set of games I'm after.

 

2) Contacting with collectors in private to see what they have paid (and when).

 

3) Reading what the various price guides say, watching what these games for sell on commercial websites, and emailing video game dealers about various price points.

 

4) Reading the chatter on various newsgroups, websites, and boards to see what people are saying.

 

Mr. Do's Castle has certainly been on the rise over the last couple of years. I'm not denying that. And I'm not stopping someone from dropping whatever they want on a game. The average street value is what I'm interested in, factoring in highs and lows over a certain period.

 

And no, you can't see my Excel spreadsheet.

[homerwannabee]

You know at the time I actually thought you were not offering enough. Boy how things can change in such a sort period of time. It really sucks to see super rare games like this decline in value. It is not good for any hobby when collectors lose money on items they prieviously paid higher prices for.

 

But you also have to factor in that those $500+ offers were placed by eager collectors that just wanted to be done with their Parker Bros collections. It's a simple strategy: dangle that carrot (in this example, $500+) in hopes of getting a bite. This is usually how the big spenders get it done.

 

But that doesn't automatically mean that every CIB Mr. Do!'s Castle is now supposed to be worth that to every collector. I feel it ended at what it should normally end for. So, I think it's fair to say that no decline in value is taking place here.

 

If you want to talk bargain, look at the Quest for Quintanna Roo this seller had

 

I agree with 5th ghost on this one. I believe that $275 for a CIB Mr. Do's Castle is the standard market value of this cart right now, so selling for US $276.23 + about another $13.50 for shipping puts it right around the actual street value.

 

As for the Sunrise version of Quest for Quintana Roo, CIB I would put this around $75. This copy, however, was only box and cart, so total with shipping was $71.16 + another $12 to get the "manual" from atari2600.com. Not what I'd call a bargain, but pretty close to the current market value.

 

Just out of curiousity since you seem so sure of yourself. Where exactly are you getting your numbers for how much a CIB Mr. Do's Castle And a CIB Sunrise Quest for Quintana Roo should cost. Please if you could, would you point me to the place where someone else got a CIB MR. Do's Castle and also a Sunrise Quest for Quintana Roo for the same price. And if you can't do that, can you atleast explain your rational for thinking this way. I really hate it when people say something should be this price or that price but then give no verafiable proof or even an rational for why they feel this way. Atleast I can give a reason for the price. 2 factors. One the seller is in a foreign country. And second but most importantly, there are more sellers than buyers at the current time. Hence supply is more than the usual supply and demand less than the usual demand.

 

Well, homerwannabee, I could also say that you seem so sure of yourself with your pronouncement that $550 was not enough and ask you how you arrive at your numbers, but since I will take the high road here, I will explain where those figures are coming from, based on my last 2-3 years of collecting:

 

1) Watching eBay and tracking the various prices on the high plateau of very rare titles. I have over 400 CIB NTSC 2600 games (and over 450 if I count box variations, pirates, and the occasional PAL cart) and so I keep tabs on the last rare set of games I'm after.

 

2) Contacting with collectors in private to see what they have paid (and when).

 

3) Reading what the various price guides say, watching what these games for sell on commercial websites, and emailing video game dealers about various price points.

 

4) Reading the chatter on various newsgroups, websites, and boards to see what people are saying.

 

Mr. Do's Castle has certainly been on the rise over the last couple of years. I'm not denying that. And I'm not stopping someone from dropping whatever they want on a game. The average street value is what I'm interested in, factoring in highs and lows over a certain period.

 

And no, you can't see my Excel spreadsheet.

 

The reason I thought at the time $550 was too little is because the game had not appeared on Ebay in ages at the time so I figured there was pent up demand for this game. Second, when I tought this there a lot of new hard core collectors in the market. Put it simply, I felt suply was less than demand. When this happens there tend to bidding wars on ebay for the item in question. But since that pronouncement I have noticed a few Mr. Do's Castles pop out of nowhere and at the same time I have not noticed any hard core collectors enter the arena in the past 6 months. The last one I can remember is Decypher and he joined in November. Also at the time I thought that Mr.Do's Castle was worth more than $550 there was a box craze in the Atari 2600 market. During the past 4 or 5 months that craze seems to not be as strong. Now we seem to be in a time when boxed games are not as in demand. Except if they are certain rarity 9 games and higher. I also basically do everything you do except I do not do number 2 as much. I figure that if they wanted people to know how much they paid they would anounce this in public. As far as Quest for Quintana Roo I have no real idea why that went for $75. That game is actually pretty rare boxed. Well I see you answered my first question as to where you get you numbers. The question should of been more why do you feel or think this way. Especially the Quest for Quintana Roo. That box does not show up so often.

[Zwackery]

The reason I thought at the time $550 was too little is because the game had not appeared on Ebay in ages at the time so I figured there was pent up demand for this game. Second, when I tought this there a lot of new hard core collectors in the market. Put it simply, I felt suply was less than demand. When this happens there tend to bidding wars on ebay for the item in question. But since that pronouncement I have noticed a few Mr. Do's Castles pop out of nowhere and at the same time I have not noticed any hard core collectors enter the arena in the past 6 months. The last one I can remember is Decypher and he joined in November. Also at the time I thought that Mr.Do's Castle was worth more than $550 there was a box craze in the Atari 2600 market. During the past 4 or 5 months that craze seems to not be as strong. Now we seem to be in a time when boxed games are not as in demand. Except if they are certain rarity 9 games and higher. I also basically do everything you do except I do not do number 2 as much. I figure that if they wanted people to know how much they paid they would anounce this in public. As far as Quest for Quintana Roo I have no real idea why that went for $75. That game is actually pretty rare boxed. Well I see you answered my first question as to where you get you numbers. The question should of been more why do you feel or think this way. Especially the Quest for Quintana Roo. That box does not show up so often.

 

Once people who really want a game pay for it, they pretty much remove the need for them to bid again. I suppose if some diehard collector paid $500 for a CIB title and wanted to keep jacking up other bids whenever that title showed up CIB again (to somehow keep the value up?), that collector could do so, but at the risk of getting stuck with another pricey copy of a game the collector already has. Usually one someone acquires a big ticket item, that's the end of that (unless it can be found again for extremely far below market value and flipped). I know that once I completed my 7800 collection I mostly stopped watching the 7800 market. If I was looking to sell, I'd study the market for as long as I could before my need for the money necessitated me putting up the goods for auction.

 

Okay, with Quest for Quintana Roo, while a boxed copy doesn't show up too often, in the Rarity 8 tier, there still is a fairly wide difference between the titles, and many of the 8s boxed will majorly outperform Quintana Roo in sales.

 

Anyhow, you want to see nuts, check out the box for the 5200 version of Quest for Quintana Roo - exact same box as 2600 version, except the 5200 version has a big silver "Atari 5200" sticker on the front...that little sticker can wind up costing quite a lot.

[homerwannabee]

The reason I thought at the time $550 was too little is because the game had not appeared on Ebay in ages at the time so I figured there was pent up demand for this game. Second, when I tought this there a lot of new hard core collectors in the market. Put it simply, I felt suply was less than demand. When this happens there tend to bidding wars on ebay for the item in question. But since that pronouncement I have noticed a few Mr. Do's Castles pop out of nowhere and at the same time I have not noticed any hard core collectors enter the arena in the past 6 months. The last one I can remember is Decypher and he joined in November. Also at the time I thought that Mr.Do's Castle was worth more than $550 there was a box craze in the Atari 2600 market. During the past 4 or 5 months that craze seems to not be as strong. Now we seem to be in a time when boxed games are not as in demand. Except if they are certain rarity 9 games and higher. I also basically do everything you do except I do not do number 2 as much. I figure that if they wanted people to know how much they paid they would anounce this in public. As far as Quest for Quintana Roo I have no real idea why that went for $75. That game is actually pretty rare boxed. Well I see you answered my first question as to where you get you numbers. The question should of been more why do you feel or think this way. Especially the Quest for Quintana Roo. That box does not show up so often.

 

Once people who really want a game pay for it, they pretty much remove the need for them to bid again. I suppose if some diehard collector paid $500 for a CIB title and wanted to keep jacking up other bids whenever that title showed up CIB again (to somehow keep the value up?), that collector could do so, but at the risk of getting stuck with another pricey copy of a game the collector already has. Usually one someone acquires a big ticket item, that's the end of that (unless it can be found again for extremely far below market value and flipped). I know that once I completed my 7800 collection I mostly stopped watching the 7800 market. If I was looking to sell, I'd study the market for as long as I could before my need for the money necessitated me putting up the goods for auction.

 

Okay, with Quest for Quintana Roo, while a boxed copy doesn't show up too often, in the Rarity 8 tier, there still is a fairly wide difference between the titles, and many of the 8s boxed will majorly outperform Quintana Roo in sales.

 

Anyhow, you want to see nuts, check out the box for the 5200 version of Quest for Quintana Roo - exact same box as 2600 version, except the 5200 version has a big silver "Atari 5200" sticker on the front...that little sticker can wind up costing quite a lot.

 

Hmm, that's kind of interesting considering that Quest for Quintana Roo is a Rarity 5 game for the 5200. Yep, a 5200 game that is a rarity 5 that goes for more than a rarity 8 Atari 2600 game is nuts.

Edited September 6, 2007 by homerwannabee

[DreamTR]

Rarity on the Quintana Roo 5200 box is underrated. That is usually one of the last 2-3 games needed (boxed) to complete 5200. It's more like a 7 or 8