Nukey Shay Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 That's North Carolina. S-14 = Tapper (Sega) Interesting. My Tapper is S-11 Peace I think it's safe to assume that the S- code was made during cartridge shell production. Nothing to do with specific titles or producers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 (edited) I think it's safe to assume that the S- code was made during cartridge shell production. Nothing to do with specific titles or producers.And it confirms the fact that it's a US made cartridge shell from the eighties. BTW: I just noticed a TM behind the game's title. Edited September 19, 2007 by Rom Hunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 I have another question for the programmer: Why did he accept such a bad printing? Where all labels misprinted like this one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+batari Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 BTW: I just noticed a TM behind the game's title. There is no record of Red Sea Crossing, Steve Stack, Steve Schustack, or Inspirational Video Concepts on USPTO's trademark database. Doesn't mean it's fake, just that it's not actually trademarked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nagn2 Posted September 19, 2007 Author Share Posted September 19, 2007 I think it's safe to assume that the S- code was made during cartridge shell production. Nothing to do with specific titles or producers.And it confirms the fact that it's a US made cartridge shell from the eighties. BTW: I just noticed a TM behind the game's title. Where do you see the TM. I am looking at the cartridge and do not see it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 Where do you see the TM. I am looking at the cartridge and do not see it? Behind the text "Red Sea Crossing", hardly noticable in red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nagn2 Posted September 19, 2007 Author Share Posted September 19, 2007 Where do you see the TM. I am looking at the cartridge and do not see it? Behind the text "Red Sea Crossing", hardly noticable in red. On the end label or the main label? I still don't see it. Can you narrow the area down? I must be blind! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 On the end label or the main label? I still don't see it. Can you narrow the area down? I must be blind! Both. Probably you camera is better than the human eye. Check your own picture: http://www.atariage.com/forums/index.php?a...st&id=85348 (better noticable on the end label) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorgle Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 Where do you see the TM. I am looking at the cartridge and do not see it? Behind the text "Red Sea Crossing", hardly noticable in red. On the end label or the main label? I still don't see it. Can you narrow the area down? I must be blind! I see it, it's on the end label in darker red than the main lettering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Random Terrain Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 On the end label or the main label? I still don't see it. Can you narrow the area down? I must be blind! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorgle Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 I have another question for the programmer: Why did he accept such a bad printing? Where all labels misprinted like this one? By 1983 standards, that was probably pretty good. I'm sure that cost was the main factor as to what quality labels he used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 By 1983 standards, that was probably pretty good. I'm sure that cost was the main factor as to what quality labels he used. Nah, the red printing is about one inch off. That wasn't even acceptable in the middle age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nagn2 Posted September 19, 2007 Author Share Posted September 19, 2007 By 1983 standards, that was probably pretty good. I'm sure that cost was the main factor as to what quality labels he used. Nah, the red printing is about one inch off. That wasn't even acceptable in the middle age. Ok, I took it out in the sunlight (I was in my dark basement) and it is VERY noticeable on both the end label and front label. Way better that my pictures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerG Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 Nagn2 - thanks for all the pics, research, etc. Don't let the jokesters get to you. Everyone is just excited about a great find. People talk about making a great find or setting up a hoax of a great find, but it seems like you ran into the real thing - congrats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEBRO Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 By 1983 standards, that was probably pretty good. I'm sure that cost was the main factor as to what quality labels he used. Nah, the red printing is about one inch off. That wasn't even acceptable in the middle age. I thought it was an "effect" showing movement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nagn2 Posted September 19, 2007 Author Share Posted September 19, 2007 Here's a thought that just occured to me. The 1st time I talked to Steve he mentioned that he only advertised this in the back of a couple of magazines but he could not remember which ones. If anybody can find an ad from a magazine from 1983 it would substantiate this whole thing. I assume it would be in a computer magazine and from 1983 and probably a very small ad. I have no clue where to even start to look or how to go about even getting a list of magazines that were out there. I would think someone out here is smart enough and may be able to find it. It may be a needle in a haystack but it is just a thought. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PressureCooker2600 Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukey Shay Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 By 1983 standards, that was probably pretty good. I'm sure that cost was the main factor as to what quality labels he used. Nah, the red printing is about one inch off. That wasn't even acceptable in the middle age. I thought it was an "effect" showing movement. ...supported, since the red text and border is not misaligned, only game sprites have the "motion" shadow (and are still colored red as well). A true 2nd pass misalignment would have left them all white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolenta Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 (edited) Here's a thought that just occured to me. The 1st time I talked to Steve he mentioned that he only advertised this in the back of a couple of magazines but he could not remember which ones. If anybody can find an ad from a magazine from 1983 it would substantiate this whole thing. I assume it would be in a computer magazine and from 1983 and probably a very small ad. I have no clue where to even start to look or how to go about even getting a list of magazines that were out there. I would think someone out here is smart enough and may be able to find it. It may be a needle in a haystack but it is just a thought. Well if it was in one of the videogame magazines of the time, I think I would have caught it. The only game I ever saw advertised back then, which never materialized, was some game called Football Fanatic. It was advertised in the sports pages of the New york Daily News. Another thought is that he might have been advertised in religious magazines. A lot of this still doesn't make sense to me. If he advertised the game, he should have expected to sell more than 100 copies, so why make only 100? Wouldn't his costs decrease with quantity? Another question is if he had enough foresight to advertise the game, why didn't he just send the magazine a review copy? Edited September 19, 2007 by rolenta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nagn2 Posted September 19, 2007 Author Share Posted September 19, 2007 Here's a thought that just occured to me. The 1st time I talked to Steve he mentioned that he only advertised this in the back of a couple of magazines but he could not remember which ones. If anybody can find an ad from a magazine from 1983 it would substantiate this whole thing. I assume it would be in a computer magazine and from 1983 and probably a very small ad. I have no clue where to even start to look or how to go about even getting a list of magazines that were out there. I would think someone out here is smart enough and may be able to find it. It may be a needle in a haystack but it is just a thought. Well if it was in one of the videogame magazines of the time, I think I would have caught it. The only game I ever saw advertised back then, which never materialized, was some game called Football Fanatic. It was advertised in the sports pages of the New york Daily News. Another thought is that he might have been advertised in religious magazines. A lot of this still doesn't make sense to me. If he advertised the game, he should have expected to sell more than 100 copies, so why make only 100? Wouldn't his costs decrease with quantity? Another question is if he had enough foresight to advertise the game, why didn't he just send the magazine a review copy? He never gave an exact number, he didn't quite remember. I never quoted on here "100 games". I believe I said a few hundred (please see post #39) which is what he told me. I think someone else has started the "100" idea. Also, I guess it is a possibility he did it in a religious magazine, please remeber I did buy The Music Machine at the same garage sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Weis Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Here's a thought that just occured to me. The 1st time I talked to Steve he mentioned that he only advertised this in the back of a couple of magazines but he could not remember which ones. If anybody can find an ad from a magazine from 1983 it would substantiate this whole thing. I assume it would be in a computer magazine and from 1983 and probably a very small ad. I have no clue where to even start to look or how to go about even getting a list of magazines that were out there. I would think someone out here is smart enough and may be able to find it. It may be a needle in a haystack but it is just a thought.Well if it was in one of the videogame magazines of the time, I think I would have caught it. have you looked in all of the "Logical gamer" mags? don't know too many people that have a complete set of these... Rick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolenta Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 have you looked in all of the "Logical gamer" mags? What's that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Weis Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 have you looked in all of the "Logical gamer" mags? What's that? guess that's answers my question it's a newspaper like mag that did get a few ads for videogames in it. Videogame products (where i got many of my Ultra rare stuff from back in the day) did a ad in it. Rick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert M Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 On the end label or the main label? I still don't see it. Can you narrow the area down? I must be blind! There is no such trademark on record at uspto.gov, but I am not surprised. It was probably slapped on there as an afterthought, and with such a short run, and limited distribution, filing for a trademark would not make any sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 By 1983 standards, that was probably pretty good. I'm sure that cost was the main factor as to what quality labels he used. Nah, the red printing is about one inch off. That wasn't even acceptable in the middle age. I thought it was an "effect" showing movement. I concur, that's what it looks like to me as well. ..Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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