+Larry Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 Every time I write a new Basic program, I pretty much "start from scratch." That's frequently inefficient and makes things more difficult than they need to be. Is anyone aware of any archive of pre-written Basic subroutines? Or would anyone be interested in starting a thread (maybe with a "sticky") for such subroutines? I certainly have a few to contribute. I'm really not talking about ML USR routines, although that might be a separate section. -Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rybags Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 No, not aware. But, the nature of 8-bit machines usually dictates starting from scratch anyway since memory is so tight. Unlike modern machines, where you can include 500K runtime libraries containing dozens of routines, of which 90% might never be called, but not worry one bit about it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Larry Posted November 22, 2007 Author Share Posted November 22, 2007 No, not aware. But, the nature of 8-bit machines usually dictates starting from scratch anyway since memory is so tight. Unlike modern machines, where you can include 500K runtime libraries containing dozens of routines, of which 90% might never be called, but not worry one bit about it. Hi Rybags- True enough, but that isn't quite what I had in mind. I would have the subroutines LISTed, each as a file on an ATR image. This isn't as cohesive or useful as what you mention, but avoids the size problem and allows individual renumbering, etc as required. -Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNIXcoffee928 Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 Yes, You need to find the book entitled, "Atari BASIC Faster & Better". The author provided line-numbering standards, a work methodology, sources for the libraries, and documentation of the sources. The book came with a floppy filled with useful BASIC subroutines. it is probably a fairly rare ATARI book. Here's the info: ISBN 0 936200 29 4 Carl M. Evans 1983 IJG, Inc. (publisher) L8R, UNIXcoffee928 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Larry Posted November 22, 2007 Author Share Posted November 22, 2007 Yes, You need to find the book entitled, "Atari BASIC Faster & Better". The author provided line-numbering standards, a work methodology, sources for the libraries, and documentation of the sources. The book came with a floppy filled with useful BASIC subroutines. it is probably a fairly rare ATARI book. Here's the info: ISBN 0 936200 29 4 Carl M. Evans 1983 IJG, Inc. (publisher) L8R, UNIXcoffee928 Hi- Thanks for the suggestion. I have that book -- I have to dig it out and go through it. Haven't looked at it in years. -Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNIXcoffee928 Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 You're welcome. Ha, well, then it should be fairly easy for you to find it! This is, of course, dependent upon the layers of clutter that you are dealing with, but, in any case, you'll find it faster than the next person. = ) For those of you without it on a dusty shelf in the attic, here are some reviews: http://www.page6.org/archive/issue_16/page_35a.htm http://www.atarimagazines.com/v3n5/reviews.html Get it from Amazon here. If anyone has an .ATR of the disk, please attach it for the benefit of others, since I doubt that you'll get an intact floppy with the book from Amazon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Allan Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 You're welcome. Ha, well, then it should be fairly easy for you to find it! This is, of course, dependent upon the layers of clutter that you are dealing with, but, in any case, you'll find it faster than the next person. = ) For those of you without it on a dusty shelf in the attic, here are some reviews: http://www.page6.org/archive/issue_16/page_35a.htm http://www.atarimagazines.com/v3n5/reviews.html Get it from Amazon here. If anyone has an .ATR of the disk, please attach it for the benefit of others, since I doubt that you'll get an intact floppy with the book from Amazon. I have all the programs from this book on my drive somewhere. I'll try to hunt them down and post them. Allan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Allan Posted November 23, 2007 Share Posted November 23, 2007 Here's all the programs from the book. Allan _Atari_Basic_faster_and_better.zip 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Larry Posted December 2, 2007 Author Share Posted December 2, 2007 In looking through the "Mapping the Atari" software, there are many very short, mostly single-purpose Basic programs that would make useful subroutines. Most of these are definitely "keepers." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwhyte Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 (edited) That would be handy, an archive of usefull BASIC routines... Edited December 2, 2007 by dwhyte Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 Machine Language subroutines are also very helpful to have for BASIC programs. I have a commercial collection on disk at home. If you're interested, I can upload later. I believe it's two full disks of routintines. I also have some useful ones from magazine articles that I have used quite a bit. Wish I still had my original collection. I hand-typed tons of them "back in the day"... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tezz Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 Machine Language subroutines are also very helpful to have for BASIC programs. I have a commercial collection on disk at home. If you're interested, I can upload later. I believe it's two full disks of routintines. I also have some useful ones from magazine articles that I have used quite a bit. Wish I still had my original collection. I hand-typed tons of them "back in the day"... yes, please do, they're always very useful, do you have the asm files too ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwhyte Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 (edited) Machine Language subroutines are also very helpful to have for BASIC programs. I have a commercial collection on disk at home. If you're interested, I can upload later. I believe it's two full disks of routintines. I also have some useful ones from magazine articles that I have used quite a bit. Wish I still had my original collection. I hand-typed tons of them "back in the day"... Yes... Do it!!!!! Do it... Dooo it... Edited December 3, 2007 by dwhyte Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 Here are the disks. The compilation is called BASIC Turbocharger. It has full assembly source listings on four disks. I have also included a partial listing I made of which routines are on one of the disks. There is some fairly useful material here. For some reason, some of the routines are "listed" and some of the routines are "tokenized". I made some notes on which ones are which, for some of these. However, you will have to find out for yourself on the others. Would be nice if someone converted the tokenized ones. BASIC___Turbocharger.zip This second archive contains some ML Subroutines that I have collected for my own use from various sources. Most are in PC text format. So, you'll have to convert the files to ATASCII using Dratex or some other utility. ML_Subroutines.zip 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Philsan Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 (edited) This second archive contains some ML Subroutines that I have collected for my own use from various sources. Most are in PC text format. So, you'll have to convert the files to ATASCII using Dratex or some other utility. Where is the file TBMOUSE6.OBJ that the 8-Bit Mouse.txt file claims to be present "on this disk"? Thank you. Edited December 4, 2007 by Philsan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 This second archive contains some ML Subroutines that I have collected for my own use from various sources. Most are in PC text format. So, you'll have to convert the files to ATASCII using Dratex or some other utility. Where is the file TBMOUSE6.OBJ that the 8-Bit Mouse.txt file claims to be present "on this disk"? Thank you. Here's the disk that contains the referenced file: TB_Mouse.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuji-Man Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 Larry, There were a few disks called the Dragon's Tail. I think it was 3 disks. They were ML routines called from BASIC. Fuji-Man Every time I write a new Basic program, I pretty much "start from scratch." That's frequently inefficient and makes things more difficult than they need to be. Is anyone aware of any archive of pre-written Basic subroutines? Or would anyone be interested in starting a thread (maybe with a "sticky") for such subroutines? I certainly have a few to contribute. I'm really not talking about ML USR routines, although that might be a separate section. -Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Philsan Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 Here's the disk that contains the referenced file:TB_Mouse.zip Thank you very much! I have find the simple working Atari ST mouse routine that I have also searched in this thread: http://www.atariage.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=114783 Moreover, the drawing program TBM Draw is very beautiful! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Larry Posted December 7, 2007 Author Share Posted December 7, 2007 Larry, There were a few disks called the Dragon's Tail. I think it was 3 disks. They were ML routines called from BASIC. Fuji-Man Every time I write a new Basic program, I pretty much "start from scratch." That's frequently inefficient and makes things more difficult than they need to be. Is anyone aware of any archive of pre-written Basic subroutines? Or would anyone be interested in starting a thread (maybe with a "sticky") for such subroutines? I certainly have a few to contribute. I'm really not talking about ML USR routines, although that might be a separate section. -Larry Hi Fuji-Man - Thanks for the reminder. There are several good routines in Dragon's Tail. These disks are in the Atari software archive: http://www.atariarchives.org/swlibrary/#dragonstail -Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+CharlieChaplin Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 Hello Larry, hello folks, attached you find 1) two images of an english/american magazine calld "XEST", they contain lots of BAS, USR and OBJ routines and 2) two images of an austrian magazine called "XL-Magazin", they contain lots of short Basic programs and routines... hopefully something of this stuff is usefull for you... greetings, Andreas Koch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Hello Larry, hello folks, attached you find 1) two images of an english/american magazine calld "XEST", they contain lots of BAS, USR and OBJ routines and 2) two images of an austrian magazine called "XL-Magazin", they contain lots of short Basic programs and routines... hopefully something of this stuff is usefull for you... greetings, Andreas Koch. BASROUT2.ZIP nope it doesn't look like BASROUT2.ZIP is actually attached... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+CharlieChaplin Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 Well, it was attached - in 2007. And since I bought several XE/ST magazines in the meanwhile, I now know they are from Austria also (like the mentioned XL-Magazin). XEST_USR_Routines.zip XL_Magazin.zip 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+slx Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 And since I bought several XE/ST magazines in the meanwhile, I now know they are from Austria also (like the mentioned XL-Magazin).One of our small contributions to the Atari world. I bought a couple while they were published as they were easy to find but couldn't compare to Antic or Compute!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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