Tempest #1 Posted November 24, 2007 So I'm cross posting. Complaint to the moderators about it... Anyway... This may be a bit of an odd offer, but I've got a brand new minty copy of Battlesphere that I think I played all of once (I was never a fan of the game) that I'd like to trade towards a Falcon 030. I've also got some other rare Jaguar related goodies (such as a voice modem and a Catbox) that I can trade as well. I'm not a huge Jaguar fan (blasphemy, I know), and I've always wanted to play around with a Falcon. This seems like the best way to kill two birds with one stone. Tempest Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Christos #2 Posted November 24, 2007 Ehm, not a wise business decision if you ask me. Sell battlesphere, you'll raise enough money to buy a falcon and upgrade it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clint Thompson #3 Posted November 24, 2007 I dunno Christos.... the ones I've been seeing lately (thats worth a toss)- *HD/14mb RAM*- usually end up in the 400 range. Would be a fairly fair trade. Good luck Tempest in however you end up obtaining a Falcon, they are a lot of fun to play with! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Christos #4 Posted November 24, 2007 Well you may be right Clint, however I've seen Battlesphere carts going for over $500. That leaves about $100 for upgrade. Of course getting into bid wars can be hazardous so it might be a good trade. Of course I'd consider it not fair since for me the value of a game cannot be that high but who am I to argue with perceived values of things ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ggn #5 Posted November 24, 2007 So I'm cross posting. Complaint to the moderators about it... Anyway... This may be a bit of an odd offer, but I've got a brand new minty copy of Battlesphere that I think I played all of once (I was never a fan of the game) that I'd like to trade towards a Falcon 030. I've also got some other rare Jaguar related goodies (such as a voice modem and a Catbox) that I can trade as well. I'm not a huge Jaguar fan (blasphemy, I know), and I've always wanted to play around with a Falcon. This seems like the best way to kill two birds with one stone. Tempest Now you gotta be joking. I have a spare Falcon here but i would never, never trade it for any game, even if some retards think it's worth 500$ (or even 5000$ for that matter). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+CyranoJ #6 Posted November 24, 2007 So I'm cross posting. Complaint to the moderators about it... Anyway... This may be a bit of an odd offer, but I've got a brand new minty copy of Battlesphere that I think I played all of once (I was never a fan of the game) that I'd like to trade towards a Falcon 030. I've also got some other rare Jaguar related goodies (such as a voice modem and a Catbox) that I can trade as well. I'm not a huge Jaguar fan (blasphemy, I know), and I've always wanted to play around with a Falcon. This seems like the best way to kill two birds with one stone. Tempest My advice would be: Put the jag cart on ebay where the retards can fight over it, then buy a Falcon with the proceeds, and pocket the change while laughing at the fanbois. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tempest #7 Posted November 24, 2007 My advice would be: Put the jag cart on ebay where the retards can fight over it, then buy a Falcon with the proceeds, and pocket the change while laughing at the fanbois. I avoid selling ANYTHING on ebay these days. There are just way too many problems. Not to mention that I'd like to keep this just inside AtariAge where there are people I know I can trust. The reason I'm willing to cough up my Battlesphere is that I have both the original and gold versions, and obviously I really don't need both. The original might actually be a bit harder to come by since I know Thunderbird sells new copies of gold on ebay now and then, but I don't think any more of the original will be made. Like I said in the post, I have some other Jaguar related goodies (I have a complete collection) that might be willing to let go if the Falcon included some upgrades or instead of Battlesphere (voice modem anyone?). But I will admit, finding someone who wants to trade Falcon for Jaguar may be a bit difficult. Thankfully I'm in no hurry. Tempest Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tempest #8 Posted November 24, 2007 I've decided to take everyones advice and try and sell the stuff directly rather than trade them for a Falcon. I'm going to own a Falcon one way or another... BTW what's needed to make the Falcon actually useful for all the cool things people seem to be doing with them these days? I assume you'll want at least 14MB of memory and a HD if Atari actually sold any Falcons without one (they didn't did they?). The CT63 would be nice, but that's probably a pipe dream since I don't think they're being made anymore. Tempest Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Christos #9 Posted November 24, 2007 Nah, you don't actually need to get an HD with the falcon. The falcon accepts standard 2.5" IDE drives (laptop) which are cheap to buy second hand (but I can see your point of having to open it up ). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+poobah #10 Posted November 24, 2007 I've decided to take everyones advice and try and sell the stuff directly rather than trade them for a Falcon. I'm going to own a Falcon one way or another... BTW what's needed to make the Falcon actually useful for all the cool things people seem to be doing with them these days? I assume you'll want at least 14MB of memory and a HD if Atari actually sold any Falcons without one (they didn't did they?). The CT63 would be nice, but that's probably a pipe dream since I don't think they're being made anymore. Tempest If you can get a 14 meg falcon, so much the better. I have seen 14 meg upgrade cards on ebay recently, and someone was selling them over on the atari-forum for $70 ish The falcon accepts 2.5" ide hard disks, if you get one without the HD, it wont have the mounting bracket. You can get that from best or B&C for cheap. I'd recommend using an IDE-Compact Flash adapter, and using a memory card. I personally have a SanDisk 256 meg flash drive in mine. You can always go external too, the Falcon has a full up SCSI-2 port on the back. Seems like older SCSI is going for cheap these days. I have a SyQuest EZ-135 connected to mine. You'll want to buy a copy of HDDriver, good stuff, better than the ICD Pro or Atari AHDI software (though the ICD stuff will work) Enjoy! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clint Thompson #11 Posted November 26, 2007 Yea, get yourself a nice external APS scsi hard drive, their so nice... imo and as mentioned above, try to get a Falcon that already has the 14MB.... just makes things easier. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Retro Rogue #12 Posted November 26, 2007 I assume you'll want at least 14MB of memory and a HD if Atari actually sold any Falcons without one (they didn't did they?). Actually, yes. The MIB one I received (closeout from a music store in Michigan, came with Cubase and a mono monitor for $400 total) was an early revision. 1 MB ram, no hard drive (and an early stapled together manual revision). That's the one I have on display at the MGC museum. When it was introduced in '92 it came in that configuration initially followed around the same time with a 4 MB ram/65 MB hd model. Here's one for sale right now. Which brings to mind, you'll also want one of the Falcon to VGA and Falcon to ST monitor adapters. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+poobah #13 Posted November 26, 2007 Which brings to mind, you'll also want one of the Falcon to VGA and Falcon to ST monitor adapters. Oh yeah, definitely. I had to make my own. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tempest #14 Posted November 26, 2007 Here's one for sale right now. Thanks for the link, that one looks perfect! I hope I win... He said dongle... hehehe.... Which brings to mind, you'll also want one of the Falcon to VGA and Falcon to ST monitor adapters. Oh yeah, definitely. I had to make my own. Actually I own a PTC-1426. Can you use this monitor for ST programs or do you still need a real ST monitor? Tempest Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tjlazer #15 Posted November 27, 2007 Yep I have a spare MIB Falcon 030 and I would never trade it for ANY game, even two 5200 Bounty Bob Strikes Back's!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+CyranoJ #16 Posted November 30, 2007 Well, I have 2 Falcons, neither came with HD mounting brackets, but both have internal 2.5" IDE drives fitted nicely! The trick? Remove the irritating internal speaker and mount the drive upside down on the underside of the RF shield - where the holes align nicely to the screw threads on the drive if you 'skew' the drive diagonally (You'll see when you take it apart) - you *might* have to bend the metal where its shaped to accept the speaker (Only had to do this on one of my Falcons) but other than that, simple! Very quick, easy and stable solution! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+doctorclu #17 Posted November 30, 2007 I thought someone wanted to port Battlesphere to the Falcon 030. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ggn #18 Posted December 2, 2007 I thought someone wanted to port Battlesphere to the Falcon 030. Wot? How then is Scatologic going to get the funds to support the Jag community and prevent piracy? Unless they make it into a cart version too Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+remowilliams #19 Posted December 2, 2007 Wot? How then is Scatologic going to get the funds to support the Jag community and prevent piracy? Unless they make it into a cart version too I hear the antipiracy mud flaps are working better than expected! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tjlazer #20 Posted December 5, 2007 (edited) Actually I own a PTC-1426. Can you use this monitor for ST programs or do you still need a real ST monitor? Not sure how it works, but the system seems to work fine in VGA mode and all games I have tried worked ok. I think that RGB mode is a little more compatible though (with ST software). It's kinda like scan doubler of sorts. I had my F030 hooked up to a 17" Sony Trinitron and it worked great, even in ST mode. (Had to run a tool called Backward to degrade system to run ST games) Edited December 5, 2007 by tjlazer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ggn #21 Posted December 5, 2007 Not sure how it works, but the system seems to work fine in VGA mode and all games I have tried worked ok. I think that RGB mode is a little more compatible though (with ST software). It's kinda like scan doubler of sorts. I had my F030 hooked up to a 17" Sony Trinitron and it worked great, even in ST mode. (Had to run a tool called Backward to degrade system to run ST games) D-Bug patched games do not require for Backwards to pollute the root dir of the boot drive in order to work (in RGB or VGA) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites