First console computer to have 3.5" disk drive built in?

[tjlazer]

The first console computer (computer with keyboard built in) that I saw to have a built in disk drive was the 1040ST. Then the Amiga 500 did the same thing. Or did Commodore come up with the idea first? I often wondered who's idea it was first.... So was it 1986 that the 1040STf was released? 1987 was when the A500 was released, which looks identicle to the 1040STf!

 

edit: I remember reading an article in Compute! with Jack Tramiel on the new Amiga A500 that was to compete with the Atari 1040STf! There was talk about this plug in board that would bring the A500 to 1MB, in direct competition to the 1040ST!

Edited December 15, 2007 by tjlazer

[Rybags]

I think Sony and/or Hitachi did one beforehand.

 

Although, it might have been the failed 3 inch mechanism.

[+Guitarman]

According the the Wikipedia, Apple was the first to incorporate a 3.5" drive with the MAC. If that is the case the true first would be the Apple Lisa which was the precursor to the MAC, and actually was renamed and sold as the MAC XL after the first MAC was released. Below is a picture of a Apple Lisa I have in my collection. It was short lived but you can see where Apple was heading with their computers.

 

 

 

EDIT....Although, this isn't a console system!! Our asteemed Atari 1040STFm seems to be the first console.

Edited December 15, 2007 by Guitarman

[thrax]

I remember macs having it before atari as well. Also there were 8-bit computers with 5 1/4" drives before as well.

[tjlazer]

I remember macs having it before atari as well. Also there were 8-bit computers with 5 1/4" drives before as well.

 

With a keyboard built in? I am talking Atari 1040ST and Amiga 500 style here...

[supergamer]

I remember macs having it before atari as well. Also there were 8-bit computers with 5 1/4" drives before as well.

 

With a keyboard built in? I am talking Atari 1040ST and Amiga 500 style here...

 

First? Are there any other "console" computers besides those two series that have integrated 3.5" drives? It seems like a pretty small classification to begin with.

[thomasholzer]

I remember macs having it before atari as well. Also there were 8-bit computers with 5 1/4" drives before as well.

 

With a keyboard built in? I am talking Atari 1040ST and Amiga 500 style here...

 

First? Are there any other "console" computers besides those two series that have integrated 3.5" drives? It seems like a pretty small classification to begin with.

 

 

Most likely a MSX computer from Sony, as Sony invented 3 1/2" in the first place

[supergamer]

Most likely a MSX computer from Sony, as Sony invented 3 1/2" in the first place

 

Correct, you got it. The MSX had a 3.5" floppy available, and at least some models had them integrated by 1985.

 

http://www.faq.msxnet.org/msx1.html has a picture of one from Spectravideo.

[tjlazer]

Cool looks like Sony came out with them first in 1985...

 

So Atari came up with the idea before C= right? AFAIK the 1040STf came out in 1986 and the A500 in 1987...

[thomasholzer]

The Atari 520 came out in 1985 as well

[tjlazer]

The Atari 520 came out in 1985 as well

 

But it did not have a build in 3.5" drive!

[thomasholzer]

The Atari 520 came out in 1985 as well

 

But it did not have a build in 3.5" drive!

 

 

Ah you're right of course, just goes to show, I was an Amiga man all the way

[Garak]

For the sake of completeness, the Commodore 65 had a 3.5" drive built-in.

 

Garak

[Retro Rogue]

The Atari 520 came out in 1985 as well

 

But it did not have a build in 3.5" drive!

 

 

But the 260stf did.

 

 

Either way, the first console computer with a 3.5" drive was the Sony SMC-70 in 1982.

Edited December 20, 2007 by wgungfu

[BSA Starfire]

The British Apricot was very early and had 3 1/2 drives.

[Retro Rogue]

The British Apricot was very early and had 3 1/2 drives.

 

The Apricot PC (1983) wasn't a console pc however, which is what he was asking about.

[Fuji-Man]

According the the Wikipedia, Apple was the first to incorporate a 3.5" drive with the MAC.

 

LOL... I think he meant the first one with a WORKING floppy drive...

 

Fuji-Man

[thomasholzer]

The Atari 520 came out in 1985 as well

 

But it did not have a build in 3.5" drive!

 

 

But the 260stf did.

 

 

Either way, the first console computer with a 3.5" drive was the Sony SMC-70 in 1982.

 

So 1982, that sure beats all others out there. But the SMC-70 looks like a 2 part computer stuck together, not a console computer.

Edited December 21, 2007 by thomasholzer

[Retro Rogue]

So 1982, that sure beats all others out there. But the SMC-70 looks like a 2 part computer stuck together, not a console computer.

 

 

Nope, its a console -

 

 

 

Edited December 22, 2007 by wgungfu

[Segataritensoftii]

So 1982, that sure beats all others out there. But the SMC-70 looks like a 2 part computer stuck together, not a console computer.

 

 

Nope, its a console -

 

 

 

Time to go edit Wikipedia again.

[tjlazer]

I kinda like that design! Would of looked cool on a 130XE/130ST with built in drive, ala 1450XLD style!

[Kripto]

Ah, 'close but no cigar' would go to the Apple IIc+ from 1984. It was also a true single piece console machine with a 3.5 drive...

 

 

[tjlazer]

Ah, 'close but no cigar' would go to the Apple IIc+ from 1984. It was also a true single piece console machine with a 3.5 drive...

 

 

 

Actually it was 1988 that this was released... But good mention, the //c came out in 1984 and had a built in 5.25" drive