+Cafeman Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 (edited) Don't want you guys wasting too much of your time so I'll give another hint or two. There is something in that room. Don't overthink it though, just get into it, explore the room thoroughly. That's my hint. And yes, your memory of the dragon trap seems spot on - and you are granted a power-up for springing the trap. Also, there is no real reason to "chain" the 3 eggs together, grabbing one while the other is still active - although you can do it if you know how to fly across screens to the next one. Just don't want you wasting time trying to achieve the impossible. Once you have grabbed all three, return to a screen which has a path which looks like it should go somewhere, but previously didn't. Follow the path again. Edited January 13, 2008 by Cafeman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midnight magicman Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 ok, I got the "dragontrap" to work. took me a few tries b4 I got the hang of it. but there's no egg in that room. I've got the 2 "final" rooms narrowed down (possible bottom exit). Assuming the courtyard room with the 3rd bat egg is in the fire castle somewhere? Peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Cafeman Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 ok, I got the "dragontrap" to work. took me a few tries b4 I got the hang of it. Was the chasing dragon catching and eating you on those few unsuccessful tries? but there's no egg in that room. Correct. But when you get the dragon trap room's flight power, you can fly to the secret room with the bat egg! Assuming the courtyard room with the 3rd bat egg is in the fire castle somewhere? Uh... no! It isn't far from the dragon trap room. You probably passed it right up many times. Ze Hint-Giver, (_)3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midnight magicman Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Was the chasing dragon catching and eating you on those few unsuccessful tries? yeah, I figured out a while back that once it gets a taste it won't stop until either you or the dragon is killed. My prob was that I kept trying to trap the most relentless dragon, then I figured out it was best to get the green guy to follow. I'll keep you posted as to what happens after I have time to fire it up again. Peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Cafeman Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Yep - its tough running from the red dragon. The only way to get a chasing dragon to stop is to kill it, or to even wound it with the sword. Or, if you hit it with the shield power-up, that will also make it go away. So like, if you are running from a dragon and see the Minotaur in the hedge maze, and purposely run into it, sometimes you'll get the shield powerup after he grabs you -- 100% of the time on easy, 25% on other settings. Based on something you said before, remember that once you get all 3 secret bat eggs, the real 'easter egg' of the game unlocks but you have to find it. Nothing is going to happen right there , but you'll get some flight (I think IIRC that you get longer FLIGHT time after grabbing the 3rd egg than just grabbing one or two. But you get a longer FLIGHT time after successfully pulling off the dragon trap, too). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midnight magicman Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Finally found the 3rd bat egg! Can't believe I didn't figure it out sooner. I noticed that "area" one of the 1st times I played the game! Can't figure out what the "real" secret is though. I assumed it had to do with certain courtyard rooms that had what appeared to be bottom exits. Also, I didn't notice that I remained a bat longer than any of the other times. Does it have to be a certain gametype (I've been playing it on 9 this whole time trying to find the eggs)? Peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Cafeman Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 (edited) It isn't extensively longer, probably just 4 seconds worth. It is actually 255 extra frames worth. But that will get you pretty far if you know where you are going. Option 9 is probably a good option to find the secrets since it has the biggest Ice Castle maze and isn't too hard of a variation. But option has nothing to do with length of bat flight time. Then again, there is some code in the game which won't give you a new power-up if you still have some left over from before, so if you are the bat, let it wear off before grabbing that last egg, and see if it seems to increase time once you grab it. (I'm starting to forget how the game's various rules work). The real secret awaits. Hints have already been given about that. not inside any castle Edited January 18, 2008 by Cafeman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midnight magicman Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 The real secret awaits. Hints have already been given about that. hmmm, I'll assume the "real" secret is within close proximity to the ice castle then? Peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Cafeman Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 Don't assume that. Next time you fire up the game, explore around the paths you already have been on many times. Look for a path that looks like it leads to another screen, but if you try it, it doesn't allow you to go forward. That is probably it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenobi575 Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 Ok, using information from posts I've read, I have found both the 3rd bat egg and the dragon trap in the Ice Castle while playing level 9. The Dragon trap is a room just above a brown, brick screen. Dragon follows you in and promptly dies - you get bat powers (without an egg). Neither room existed in levels 1-3 so I assume that there is no dragon trap or 3rd bat egg in the beginning levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midnight magicman Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 Finally! Success! Funny thing is, I totally forgot about that after the very 1st time I played it! & after I discovered the secret I went back & finished my quest &, well, let's just say it was doubly satisfying! Thanks for a great game Cafeman. It's definitely one of my tops in the 5200 library! Peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael_ Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 Neither room existed in levels 1-3 so I assume that there is no dragon trap or 3rd bat egg in the beginning levels I´m pretty sure you´ll only find them on VAST settings and on levels with alternate maze layouts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenobi575 Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 grabbed all three, return to a screen which has a path which looks like it should go somewhere, but previously didn't. Follow the path again. Where is this screen located? I first tried moving up after exiting the room containing the 3rd bat egg and moving up - without flight powers - you get stuck in the wall, as a bat - you get through but nothing special happens. Maybe my eyes are failing me but I can't see any dead end path which I assume is in the ice kingdom (blue screens where the 1st egg was found)? perhaps, can someone upload a screen capture? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midnight magicman Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 (edited) grabbed all three, return to a screen which has a path which looks like it should go somewhere, but previously didn't. Follow the path again. Where is this screen located? I first tried moving up after exiting the room containing the 3rd bat egg and moving up - without flight powers - you get stuck in the wall, as a bat - you get through but nothing special happens. Maybe my eyes are failing me but I can't see any dead end path which I assume is in the ice kingdom (blue screens where the 1st egg was found)? perhaps, can someone upload a screen capture? Kenobi, It's not in the Ice Kingdom. It's about as far away from the 3rd egg as can be.... That's all I'll say. Ok, one more thing. It's connected to a screen visible on the 1st gametype. Peace Edited January 20, 2008 by midnight magicman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenobi575 Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 (edited) I did it! Many thanks - Midnight Magicman... About as exciting as the Warren Robinett screen in the original Adventure but a worthy quest. Wasn't there supposed to be a second,secret room though I did take the pleasure of vanquishing two dragons in the trap this time around- first green then orange. Edited January 21, 2008 by Kenobi575 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midnight magicman Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 (edited) Kenobi, did you try to return the chalice after finding the secret? All I'll say is... do that. Peace Edited January 21, 2008 by midnight magicman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midnight magicman Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 Also, maybe you should edit your post to not give so much away? We want all those other Adventure II fans to feel the same success no? Peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenobi575 Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 You're right - I've deleted a portion of my earlier post. Yeah, I went and delivered the chalice to the Seashore Castle - that just ended the game and I was given the rank of "Duck Food" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midnight magicman Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 Yeah, I went and delivered the chalice to the Seashore Castle - that just ended the game and I was given the rank of "Duck Food" Really? It did something a bit more "special" for me. But I did a little experimenting first. Did you see the troll on the "secret" screen? Let him take some things (chalice specifically) from you, then go see where he put them. THEN complete your quest.... Peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenobi575 Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 (edited) I've tried it and allowed the troll to take two items - the recommended item plus I gave him the point of my argument. He just deposited them in chilly realms but nothing else. So I finished the game and was dubbed duck food again. I'll keep trying different items with the recommended one and see what happens. Edited January 22, 2008 by Kenobi575 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midnight magicman Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 try 4 keys Peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggy the Atarian Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 I'm glad this thread exists with these tips - I had all but given up hope on finding the 3rd egg but it's time to fire up the ol' 5200 and try again. I also need to find the dragon trap - I had heard of it in the ice castle but never found it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Cafeman Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 try 4 keys Peace Okay, I'm at a loss here and I programmed the game! - what are you saying happens ??? PM me if you don't want to post it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midnight magicman Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 PM sent Peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctorclu Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 Still liked this alternate icon... thought it was cute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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