Getting PS2 now or waiting for built in A/C?

[Paul Humbug]

Hi folks,

 

hope you enjoyed X-Mas.

 

I thought I could wait for the new PS2 with the built in A/C to arrive in the States somewhen in early 2008.

 

But the urge to pick up one together with some decent racing and shooting games is almost too much to stand any longer after I´ve been waiting for more than 7 years now to get one.

 

What do you think? Is it worth to wait for the one with the built in A/C? I guess that´s the only difference plus less weight. Any pricedrop expected for the new one or the old stock?

 

Believe it or not, nowadays with 100+ obligations $30 more or less do make decisions.......

[jboypacman]

While it is neat and cool that they are making one with a built-in A/C unit i dont think it would matter if you got one of thoses or one of the current models.

 

They both will play PS2 games and DVDs so unless the new model is cheaper i wouldnt worry about it and go pick yourself up one as now is a great time too with games being so cheap.

Edited December 28, 2007 by jboypacman

[shadow460]

Other than the internal, it sounded at first like you guys were talking about the PSX which is a very far cry from the original Playstation that gets called "PSX" all the time.

Edited December 28, 2007 by shadow460

[gooseman]

You can get a ps2 from gamestop for 80 dollars I think. Plus they have a sale going on right now buy any two used accessories/games get one free.

[Atariboy]

Built in AC is just for price reduction so they can cut cost. I imagine the current console is superior since there will be less heat and if the ac adapter develops problems, you don't need a new console. And it has the same appearance and physical footprint as the upcoming redesign.

 

So I don't think its worth it to wait for the redesign that my limited electronics knowledge says will be a inferior product.

[shadow460]

Buy one of the early box style units used. Certainly by now either said unit will have had its laser adjusted, someone will know how to adjust it for you, or (like mine) it will not have had any DRE problems at all. Heat problem solved!

[Rybags]

They're doing another variant of the PS2?

 

Do the NTSC PS3s still have the "PS2 on a chip"?

 

We got ripped off here - the backward compatability is done via an emulation layer - and apparently the compatibility ratio is pretty poor (under 20%?)

 

If you're talking about the PS3, probably an idea to grab one of the original series with the proper Emotion Engine, and not this emulation crap (which is supposedly being also introduced to the NTSC models).

[Paul Humbug]

Built in AC is just for price reduction so they can cut cost. I imagine the current console is superior since there will be less heat and if the ac adapter develops problems, you don't need a new console. And it has the same appearance and physical footprint as the upcoming redesign.

 

So I don't think its worth it to wait for the redesign that my limited electronics knowledge says will be a inferior product.

 

 

I think you got a valid point. To replace a faulty A/C adapter is easier than to repair a console.

 

But couldn´t the redesign mean a serious price cut as well and improvements on the laser?

[shadow460]

They're doing another variant of the PS2?

 

Do the NTSC PS3s still have the "PS2 on a chip"?

 

We got ripped off here - the backward compatability is done via an emulation layer - and apparently the compatibility ratio is pretty poor (under 20%?)

 

If you're talking about the PS3, probably an idea to grab one of the original series with the proper Emotion Engine, and not this emulation crap (which is supposedly being also introduced to the NTSC models).

 

According to Wikipedia, even some of the PSTwo's don't have a true Emotion Engine. It's there, but it's combined on a chip with something else. I don't know what compatibility issues this causes, but the PlayStation 2 has been hacked up so much by $ony that even some of the original launch titles are no longer fully supported by the new units. Of course, that happened with the PS1 as well.

[+HammR25]

The 60gb and 20 gb PS3s have all of the hardware. The 80gb and 40gb ones do not.

[Atariboy]

No price cuts are planned or so they say. And I suspect when it does see a price cut, it will only be $30 from the current 130 price. Nothing too serious like matching the PSOne's $50 price point in its final years.

[Paul Humbug]

No price cuts are planned or so they say. And I suspect when it does see a price cut, it will only be $30 from the current 130 price. Nothing too serious like matching the PSOne's $50 price point in its final years.

 

Well, a cut of $30 is almost 23,25%, not too bad...if it happens.

 

Just the plain console for 129 doesn´t let you play anything. I´d also have to invest in a memory card ofr $20 or so, right?

 

Considering this, the investment in hardware is right now a $150.

 

$50 more buys a PSP pack with everything included.

 

A PSP has the added value of storing photos, videos, music....practical somehow....but then the games.....more choices on PS2 and cheaper......but then the XBOX360 is cleary the system of choice for the next years to come and starting out at $279, does it play all the games? Or do I need a harddisk?

 

What else would speak for or against the PS2 vs. PSP vs Xbox360?

 

You see, the past days I´m pondering my choices after I found out about the hidden/extra cost of a PS2 memory card.

 

And I want my system new, so the used ones are no alternative.

 

So, if you tell me I can play all Xbox360 games on the arcade package for $279, I guess I would go for that one instead.

[Lord Helmet]

No price cuts are planned or so they say. And I suspect when it does see a price cut, it will only be $30 from the current 130 price. Nothing too serious like matching the PSOne's $50 price point in its final years.

 

Well, a cut of $30 is almost 23,25%, not too bad...if it happens.

 

Just the plain console for 129 doesn´t let you play anything. I´d also have to invest in a memory card ofr $20 or so, right?

 

 

You can play any game without a memory card. You just won't be able to save your progress without one.

[Paul Humbug]

No price cuts are planned or so they say. And I suspect when it does see a price cut, it will only be $30 from the current 130 price. Nothing too serious like matching the PSOne's $50 price point in its final years.

 

Well, a cut of $30 is almost 23,25%, not too bad...if it happens.

 

Just the plain console for 129 doesn´t let you play anything. I´d also have to invest in a memory card ofr $20 or so, right?

 

 

You can play any game without a memory card. You just won't be able to save your progress without one.

 

Thanks, but I think that makes it very uninteresting and unrewarding.