So who wants what?

[Atari Dogs]

I voted for the Catbox/Scatbox with an audio input for karaoke; although, I believe its not possible.

 

Now that I think about it, get the JagCF out. Answer all the questions about how it will work and what copy protections it will have.

[The Helper]

I voted re-release of Battlesphere. This 500 buck stuff on eBay has got to stop.

[Atari Dogs]

I voted re-release of Battlesphere. This 500 buck stuff on eBay has got to stop.

Sell you mine for $450. Its work more than my Atari stock.

[KJ4860]

I voted for the Catbox/Scatbox with an audio input for karaoke; although, I believe its not possible.

 

Now that I think about it, get the JagCF out. Answer all the questions about how it will work and what copy protections it will have.

 

what exactly do they mean by "copy protections"? does it disable the use of ROMs?

[Atariboy]

JagCF as well.

[Gorf]

I want my JagCF

 

 

Um it's not on the list.

[Gorf]

Hey Jagware crew.....give it up...the CF is not on the list already!Sheesh!

[Gorf]

I voted for the Catbox/Scatbox with an audio input for karaoke; although, I believe its not possible.

 

Now that I think about it, get the JagCF out. Answer all the questions about how it will work and what copy protections it will have.

 

what exactly do they mean by "copy protections"? does it disable the use of ROMs?

 

 

Not to some developer's satisfaction.

[downix]

I voted for the Catbox/Scatbox with an audio input for karaoke; although, I believe its not possible.

 

Now that I think about it, get the JagCF out. Answer all the questions about how it will work and what copy protections it will have.

 

what exactly do they mean by "copy protections"? does it disable the use of ROMs?

 

 

Not to some developer's satisfaction.

 

I see potential in such a device, but I see it rife for abuse as well.

 

Also, why CF rather than a MMC or SD card, which would have been simpler, and would have allowed for better copy protection?

[Gorf]

Also, why CF rather than a MMC or SD card, which would have been simpler, and would have allowed for better copy protection?

 

 

How about the CF as it is with out the ability to load to the cart area....move the upload

another 2 k up and no piracy of carts will be able to happen. Its a simple fix. Im no VHDL

guru, bu tit cant take too much to do such a remap can it?

[Zerosquare]

Also, why CF rather than a MMC or SD card

Because CF cards have better transfer rates than MMC/SD cards.

 

and would have allowed for better copy protection?

I can't see why. A standard MMC/SD card is just as easy to copy as a standard CF. And there are CF cards which allow copy protection.

 

How about the CF as it is with out the ability to load to the cart area....move the upload

another 2 k up and no piracy of carts will be able to happen. Its a simple fix. Im no VHDL

guru, bu tit cant take too much to do such a remap can it?

We're not going to debate this again, are we ? Besides, that's not the point of this topic.

[downix]

Also, why CF rather than a MMC or SD card

Because CF cards have better transfer rates than MMC/SD cards.

The bottleneck won't be the card in either case, but the Jag itself by my estimation, unless I've severely misunderstood what you are doing here.

and would have allowed for better copy protection?

I can't see why. A standard MMC/SD card is just as easy to copy as a standard CF. And there are CF cards which allow copy protection.

Yes, but the CF with copy protection require special readers to be readable. SD's with copy protection need no special provision

How about the CF as it is with out the ability to load to the cart area....move the upload

another 2 k up and no piracy of carts will be able to happen. Its a simple fix. Im no VHDL

guru, bu tit cant take too much to do such a remap can it?

We're not going to debate this again, are we ? Besides, that's not the point of this topic.

He does make a good point. Some kind of protection would ease some weary minds I'd suspect. Your idea is good, hope to see it take off infact, but I can see Gorf's viewpoint as well.

[Zerosquare]

The bottleneck won't be the card in either case, but the Jag itself by my estimation, unless I've severely misunderstood what you are doing here.

That would be true if the JagCF did not have any processing power by itself. But it has an embedded DSP running at 96 MHz, which can access the Compact Flash card directly.

 

Yes, but the CF with copy protection require special readers to be readable. SD's with copy protection need no special provision

Sorry, I don't understand your point ? Copy-protected content is supposed NOT to be readable by a standard reader anyways.

 

He does make a good point. Some kind of protection would ease some weary minds I'd suspect. Your idea is good, hope to see it take off infact, but I can see Gorf's viewpoint as well.

There are already several other protections planned. I won't discuss them here since that would derail the topic. Edited January 16, 2008 by Zerosquare

[downix]

The bottleneck won't be the card in either case, but the Jag itself by my estimation, unless I've severely misunderstood what you are doing here.

That would be true if the JagCF did not have any processing power by itself. But it has an embedded DSP running at 96 MHz, which can access the Compact Flash card directly.

ah, interesting. Then I can see the point, yes

Yes, but the CF with copy protection require special readers to be readable. SD's with copy protection need no special provision

Sorry, I don't understand your point ? Copy-protected content is supposed NOT to be readable by a standard reader anyways.

I won't get into details else derail the thread, but I'd suggest you read the SD encryption spec sometime

He does make a good point. Some kind of protection would ease some weary minds I'd suspect. Your idea is good, hope to see it take off infact, but I can see Gorf's viewpoint as well.

There are already several other protections planned. I won't discuss them here since that would derail the topic.

Well, if protections are included, then good. Don't want to help facilitate mass piracy do we?

[KJ4860]

The bottleneck won't be the card in either case, but the Jag itself by my estimation, unless I've severely misunderstood what you are doing here.

That would be true if the JagCF did not have any processing power by itself. But it has an embedded DSP running at 96 MHz, which can access the Compact Flash card directly.

ah, interesting. Then I can see the point, yes

Yes, but the CF with copy protection require special readers to be readable. SD's with copy protection need no special provision

Sorry, I don't understand your point ? Copy-protected content is supposed NOT to be readable by a standard reader anyways.

I won't get into details else derail the thread, but I'd suggest you read the SD encryption spec sometime

He does make a good point. Some kind of protection would ease some weary minds I'd suspect. Your idea is good, hope to see it take off infact, but I can see Gorf's viewpoint as well.

There are already several other protections planned. I won't discuss them here since that would derail the topic.

Well, if protections are included, then good. Don't want to help facilitate mass piracy do we?

 

well...

[Fredifredo]

A JagDuo kit with a Catbox

 

...and a JagCF of course !

[+remowilliams]

What I want most is the incessant unbelievably pointless bullshit to stop in the Jag community. And it looks like I posted my wish a bit too late for this thread.

[downix]

What I want most is the incessant unbelievably pointless bullshit to stop in the Jag community. And it looks like I posted my wish a bit too late for this thread.

You know that I can see either side feeling that you've sided with them, for they did not do the first snipe, in their viewpoint. But yes, this whining, childish behavior is beyond rediculous. Altho, compared to the Amiga camp, they were bosom buddies.

[Gorf]

We're not going to debate this again, are we ? Besides, that's not the point of this topic.

 

 

I simply answered a question. Sorry for the topic derail.

[Gorf]

well...

 

 

Not helpful.

[KJ4860]

well...

 

 

Not helpful.

 

lolerzzz!!1 im jk ofcourse. pirating jagware is lame and pointless. the real thing truly feels better.

[Gorf]

well...

 

 

Not helpful.

 

lolerzzz!!1 im jk ofcourse. pirating jagware is lame and pointless. the real thing truly feels better.

 

 

[midnight8]

Im sick at home and curious: what should happen next in the Jag scene? I would personally like ALL of these to happen, as i imagine everyone one of you would as well.However, this is not a choice. Pick one as your most desired. Discuss your choice.

 

 

Maybe i am wrong. Maybe some of these are already in the making. If so, correct me. I have not heard anything of these happening(yet).

 

voted for the jaguar 2 but could have just as easily voted for battlesphere or catbox. I actually still keep changing my mind.

[KJ4860]

Im sick at home and curious: what should happen next in the Jag scene? I would personally like ALL of these to happen, as i imagine everyone one of you would as well.However, this is not a choice. Pick one as your most desired. Discuss your choice.

 

 

Maybe i am wrong. Maybe some of these are already in the making. If so, correct me. I have not heard anything of these happening(yet).

 

voted for the jaguar 2 but could have just as easily voted for battlesphere or catbox. I actually still keep changing my mind.

 

and that is perfectly fine and normal. I think we all feel the same way.

[Gorf]

Jag II is only a ASIC library away. All the other stuff we need to make it is here on my hard drive.