Rom Hunter Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 http://atarimania.com/detail_soft.php?MENU...ERSION_ID=20277 Not a Sancho game at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Psionic Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 Where did the second screenshot come from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted March 11, 2008 Author Share Posted March 11, 2008 (edited) April '83 issue of Videogaming Illustrated magazine. Edited March 12, 2008 by Rom Hunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted March 11, 2008 Author Share Posted March 11, 2008 (edited) It all makes sense now. Tilt magazine shows us two pictures of 'Sancho' games, which are in fact VentureVision games. One is Innerspace (released as Laser Gates by Imagic) The second one is Solar Defense. Both were sequels to Rescue Terra I. I'm now 99.9% certain that Solar Defense once existed. Both Tilt screenshots were taken from a TV screen. Edited March 12, 2008 by Rom Hunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegamatrix Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 Cool! Great research, Rom. Lets hope it surfaces one day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostbite Bailey Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 (edited) Thanks for this great info Rom; was this game ever advertised in the magazine as a sequel to Rescue Terra I ? or just as a "Sancho" game? Omegamatrix; I'm with you, would be nice to see it surface one day Edited March 11, 2008 by Frostbite Bailey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxsolo2000 Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 Was Innerspace ever released in its own right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted March 12, 2008 Author Share Posted March 12, 2008 (edited) No, only as Laser Gates. Frostbite, Both screenshots (one of Innerspace / Laser Gates and one of Solar Defense) were wrongly announced as Sancho games: As you can read, in the same sentence the manufacturer Venture(Vision) is mentioned (to which screenshots #11 and #12 truly belong). Edited March 12, 2008 by Rom Hunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxsolo2000 Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 So any therioes on the other two pics you discovered? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostbite Bailey Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 Wow! I even got to read it in French, not that I am bilingual, but have enough to get by. Thanks for the clarification on that ROM; yes, theory on pics please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted March 12, 2008 Author Share Posted March 12, 2008 (edited) What other pics? The B&W one in the first post was shown in the April '83 issue of Videogaming Illustrated magazine. The one in our database is from the May/June '83 issue of Tilt magazine shown above. The difference with a vapourware title is that at least the Tilt screenshot was taken from a TV screen. Edited March 12, 2008 by Rom Hunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 A noter également les jeux Sancho, de grande qualite ainsi que ceux de la Venture: les droits sur ces derniers ont par ailleurs été rachetés pour l´Europe par EMK qui envisage des les fabriquer en France. Une tentative courageuse qui mérite d´être encouragée. To also note the Sancho plays, of great quality like those of the Venture: the rights on the latter were in addition repurchased for Europe by EMK which plans to manufacture them in France. A courageous attempt which deserves to be encouraged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagMax667 Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 A noter également les jeux Sancho, de grande qualite ainsi que ceux de la Venture: les droits sur ces derniers ont par ailleurs été rachetés pour l´Europe par EMK qui envisage des les fabriquer en France. Une tentative courageuse qui mérite d´être encouragée. To also note the Sancho plays, of great quality like those of the Venture: the rights on the latter were in addition repurchased for Europe by EMK which plans to manufacture them in France. A courageous attempt which deserves to be encouraged. So Sancho bought the rights to Solar Defense and planned to sell it in Europe? That would make sense. I read that Exocet and Sea Hawk were originally programmed by Ultravision, and finally released by Sancho. Then again, I can't remeber where I read that, so I could be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Psionic Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 I read that Exocet and Sea Hawk were originally programmed by Ultravision, and finally released by Sancho. Ultravision never "programmed" anything...they just imported junk from Taiwan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagMax667 Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 I read that Exocet and Sea Hawk were originally programmed by Ultravision, and finally released by Sancho. Ultravision never "programmed" anything...they just imported junk from Taiwan. Ah, so that's it. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Psionic Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 I read that Exocet and Sea Hawk were originally programmed by Ultravision, and finally released by Sancho. Ultravision never "programmed" anything...they just imported junk from Taiwan. Ah, so that's it. Thanks. All of those Funvision/Ultravision and Panda/Sancho games had origins in Hong Kong and Taiwan. Same deal with the Zellers games and some of the ZiMAG stuff. They were all somewhat closely related, but I've never been able to find out who was behind all that junk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxsolo2000 Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 What other pics? The ones you showed on the back of that copy cart you showed to us some time ago. One of the pics was of the game you have named but there were two more if I recall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 So Sancho bought the rights to Solar Defense and planned to sell it in Europe? Doesn't the quote say something completely different? Like EMK bought the rights on Ventrue(Vision) games for Europe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted March 13, 2008 Author Share Posted March 13, 2008 (edited) That's right, Thomas. Please don't mix things up here guys. Fox, I still haven't tracked down the unknown Home Vision game: Could be a mock-up. The other pictures on the Copy Cart are most probably not VCS. Edited March 13, 2008 by Rom Hunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagMax667 Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 (edited) So Sancho bought the rights to Solar Defense and planned to sell it in Europe? Doesn't the quote say something completely different? Like EMK bought the rights on Ventrue(Vision) games for Europe? Whoops. Looks like I completely misread the quote. Sorry about that. I'm not sure where my mind was last night. I apologize. Edited March 13, 2008 by MagMax667 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxsolo2000 Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 I still haven't tracked down the unknown Home Vision game: Could be a mock-up. The other pictures on the Copy Cart are most probably not VCS. Hell of a mock up but thanks for the reply Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegamatrix Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 The more I look at that blurry photo the more I think it is a hack of Lilly Adventure. Suppose they hacked their own game like Zoo Fun is a hack of Panda Chase? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted March 14, 2008 Author Share Posted March 14, 2008 The more I look at that blurry photo the more I think it is a hack of Lilly Adventure. Suppose they hacked their own game like Zoo Fun is a hack of Panda Chase?It could be a mock-up of Lilly Adventure. The main sprite looks a little bit like Lilly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 The more I look at that blurry photo the more I think it is a hack of Lilly Adventure? I thought the same at first. But then, this would have to be a very early version. If you check closely, the screenshot and the game don't have very much in common. E.g. one could even recognize a Missile Command hack there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatPW Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 (edited) For anyone interested in reading up on more about VentureVision's prototype and many others. Check out this webpage: http://www.digitpress.com/faq/vcsalt/cc_vcsalt.htm Great article on unreleased prototypes with plenty of pictures Here you will find a bigger picture of Solar Defense along with the press release description. Really cool page to check out especially if you like to look at prototypes screenshots. Also it does a lot of comparing the press release to the actual prototype too. Great stuff! Also, check out the mock up in some of the screenshots to prove that the Atari 2600 was capable of doing the screenshot(s) featured in the press release. Some pretty talented Atari 2600 programmers! Edited March 23, 2008 by TheGreatPW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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