SlySoft on Blu-ray BD+ crack: next time it will be easier

[Underball]

I find it funny that your industry tosses numbers like millions and billions, but offer no hard data to back it up. If you believe the numbers some people toss around, pirate copies of software just about equals the number of legal copies.

 

And you didn't address either one of my issues. Home users aren't the ones passing around numerous copies of media. If there is a problem with internet piracy, then deal with those sites. Also, what about the issue I brought up about the factories churning out illegal copies in 3rd world countries? They're a far greater problem than a home copier. The entertainment industry loads software up with DRM and hits the consumer market because it's the path of least resistance not because it's the greatest threat.

All you have to do is look at the daily downloading stats on torrent sites like mininova.org and thepiratebay.org (or the 1,000's of other torrent sites and P2P networks).

 

Thousands of available torrents/links. Thousands of users sharing those available torrents. Some of these sites host torrent files where the users move 20 terabytes PER DAY of illegally shared copyrighted material.

 

Apparetly, you don't really understand how Bittorrent and P2P sharing works. It's not particular sites hosting downloadable files. It's sites hosting a link to millions of interconnected end users sharing the files amongst themselves.

 

It's the USERS.

 

The technology itself is not illegal. It's a great distribution platform for legally shared data, such as Linux Distros, and other freeware/shareware.

 

It's the millions of END USERS who upload and share copyrighted material that make it so bad. And they are only growing by leaps and bounds. Especially since the Economy in the US is in the dumper and we're going into a recession.

[christianscott27]

Its the 21st century, time to get with the new paradigm. The industry clings to an old business model thats incompatible with the online world. They need to figure out a new way to turn a profit. Sooner than not people will stop dealing in physical media and everything will be downloaded, and often pirated. I dont buy into the whole BoingBoing information freedom argument, people want to get stuff for free its just that simple. They need to do something different instead of fighting a losing battle.

[MCHufnagel]

I find it funny that your industry tosses numbers like millions and billions, but offer no hard data to back it up. If you believe the numbers some people toss around, pirate copies of software just about equals the number of legal copies.

 

And you didn't address either one of my issues. Home users aren't the ones passing around numerous copies of media. If there is a problem with internet piracy, then deal with those sites. Also, what about the issue I brought up about the factories churning out illegal copies in 3rd world countries? They're a far greater problem than a home copier. The entertainment industry loads software up with DRM and hits the consumer market because it's the path of least resistance not because it's the greatest threat.

All you have to do is look at the daily downloading stats on torrent sites like mininova.org and thepiratebay.org (or the 1,000's of other torrent sites and P2P networks).

 

Thousands of available torrents/links. Thousands of users sharing those available torrents. Some of these sites host torrent files where the users move 20 terabytes PER DAY of illegally shared copyrighted material.

 

Apparetly, you don't really understand how Bittorrent and P2P sharing works. It's not particular sites hosting downloadable files. It's sites hosting a link to millions of interconnected end users sharing the files amongst themselves.

 

It's the USERS.

 

The technology itself is not illegal. It's a great distribution platform for legally shared data, such as Linux Distros, and other freeware/shareware.

 

It's the millions of END USERS who upload and share copyrighted material that make it so bad. And they are only growing by leaps and bounds. Especially since the Economy in the US is in the dumper and we're going into a recession.

I know how they work. And I do know that if the industry would constantly monitor those sites and download pirateware from them, they would be able to get evidence against them. Like I said, if there are sites that are distributing pirateware, go and get them closed down or find ways to keep them from conducting illegal activities. I know it takes more effort to close down illegal sites than to sue the consumers who do the downloading, but that is the proper way to do it.

 

Oh and still no answer about 3rd world factories? I guess media company reps are afraid of getting shot at!

[VW]

Just had to add another annoying example of DRM. My PS3 brags about its ability to upconvert regular DVDs to 1080i. I tried this out and my PS3 wouldn't do it. I then found out that every upconverting DVD player sold (including the PS3) only upconverts through HDMI cables because they are "more secure." My HDTV doesn't have HDMI connections so I get screwed. The hilarious thing is that I can make copies of DVDs, put them in the PS3 and they will upconvert since there is no copy protection on them. So the industry has created a system where a copy of my original DVD will play better than my original store-bought DVD. As if this wasn't stupid enough, blu-rays will play in 1080i on my PS3 without HDMI and those have a better quality image that you would think the industry would be more paranoid about...

[moycon]

I don't think any one thing right now is going to keep Blu-Ray from become the next standard. It's a combination of things available now or coming in the very short future that will take away from Blu-Rays dominance. In the end there will be better alternatives than a spinning disk.

[Underball]

Oh and still no answer about 3rd world factories? I guess media company reps are afraid of getting shot at!

 

The net effect on Domestic US sales of media by Malaysian and Indoneisan pirated bootlegs isn't even apparent enough to be measurable. It has no effect here. It's not a concern. I don't work in Japan or China, so I can't speak intelligently on it's effect over there.

 

But there's no one quivering in Silicon Valley or up at MIT in Cambridge over 10 old Chinese Ladys on Canal Street in NYC selling crappy bootlegs along with fake Gucci Purses no one wants to buy.

[Underball]

I don't think any one thing right now is going to keep Blu-Ray from become the next standard. It's a combination of things available now or coming in the very short future that will take away from Blu-Rays dominance. In the end there will be better alternatives than a spinning disk.

I don't really think there will be a "standard". There will be multiple freely available options. Net Downloads, On-Demand Pay-Per-View, services like NetFlix, etc, and as always, purchased physical media.

 

But there isn't any physical media that will outplace Blu-Ray for the HD install base for the foreseeable future. It is the HD physical media standard.

[MCHufnagel]

Oh and still no answer about 3rd world factories? I guess media company reps are afraid of getting shot at!

 

The net effect on Domestic US sales of media by Malaysian and Indoneisan pirated bootlegs isn't even apparent enough to be measurable. It has no effect here. It's not a concern. I don't work in Japan or China, so I can't speak intelligently on it's effect over there.

 

But there's no one quivering in Silicon Valley or up at MIT in Cambridge over 10 old Chinese Ladys on Canal Street in NYC selling crappy bootlegs along with fake Gucci Purses no one wants to buy.

I'm not talking just about domestic US sales. I'm talking about world wide sales. Don't Hollywood companies make any money selling overseas? You said that piracy keeps media prices high, yet there are huge markets out there that primarily purchase pirateware. Sell legit software in those growing markets if you want to expand profit. When I say consumers, I should have said western consumers. The media industries always take the easy way out when it comes to enforcing the rules. Western consumers take the brunt of it, while the big time pirates (both in digital downloads and illegal pressings) are based overseas.

 

And to mention ladies handbags, well I guess you've run out of answers.

[Lord Helmet]

Oh and still no answer about 3rd world factories? I guess media company reps are afraid of getting shot at!

 

The net effect on Domestic US sales of media by Malaysian and Indoneisan pirated bootlegs isn't even apparent enough to be measurable. It has no effect here. It's not a concern. I don't work in Japan or China, so I can't speak intelligently on it's effect over there.

 

But there's no one quivering in Silicon Valley or up at MIT in Cambridge over 10 old Chinese Ladys on Canal Street in NYC selling crappy bootlegs along with fake Gucci Purses no one wants to buy.

I'm not talking just about domestic US sales. I'm talking about world wide sales. Don't Hollywood companies make any money selling overseas? You said that piracy keeps media prices high, yet there are huge markets out there that primarily purchase pirateware. Sell legit software in those growing markets if you want to expand profit. When I say consumers, I should have said western consumers. The media industries always take the easy way out when it comes to enforcing the rules. Western consumers take the brunt of it, while the big time pirates (both in digital downloads and illegal pressings) are based overseas.

 

And to mention ladies handbags, well I guess you've run out of answers.

 

The reason that piracy is so common in places like China and Africa etc is because it is simply much cheaper to buy a pirated movie than it is to buy a legit one. If Paramount started selling its DVDs for $2 over there, there wouldn't be any reason to pirate their movies, and they'd still profit (though their margins wouldn't be nearly what they want them to be). Hollywood greed is what fuels piracy

[MCHufnagel]

The reason that piracy is so common in places like China and Africa etc is because it is simply much cheaper to buy a pirated movie than it is to buy a legit one. If Paramount started selling its DVDs for $2 over there, there wouldn't be any reason to pirate their movies, and they'd still profit (though their margins wouldn't be nearly what they want them to be). Hollywood greed is what fuels piracy

I agree that low prices on legit media would do a lot in combating piracy in those countries. It really pisses me off that we in the west get screwed because these companies don't want to change the way they do business. Look how well the music industry did by sticking to their outdated methods of distribution!