Inky #1 Posted June 17, 2008 ...with no hookups or controllers at all. Where can I snag some? Also, am I correct that the Saturn can play Genesis games? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reaperman #2 Posted June 17, 2008 (edited) ...with no hookups or controllers at all. Where can I snag some? Also, am I correct that the Saturn can play Genesis games? great, saturn's one of my favorite systems. ebay's probably the best for hookups if you don't have anything local, but no, saturn can't play genesis games. The cart slot is for memory cards, ram expansions, modems and various (awesome) unlicensed devices. I recommend one of the pro action replay 4-in-1 devices. and, of course, all the games you can lay your hands on. Do not be afraid to import (if you get the action replay), there's some great jap only games. Edited June 17, 2008 by Reaperman Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red_Queen #3 Posted June 17, 2008 (edited) The Saturn hardware has full support over all SEGA products since this was the original goal of SEGA uptil the Dreamcast. SEGA decided to drop the idea fearing people afar ( like in Brasil, India, Austriallia and Europe ) who was currently being sold the Master System/ and Genesis. It is all past SEGA products rolled up in one missing the code, instructions, and slot to play all past systems. Short answer no for a user but if you have exprience with Saturn emulators maybe then you can play SEGA games on your systems. So far there is a emulator ( since the Saturn does support second disc fucntion like the PSX. I just found a game that does just that ) that emulate discs along with roms. The cart slot Also another thing to know about the Saturn like the SNES the cart slot can be used for cart based games where SEGA had plan to install the Genesis slot. There is also the codec slot which has various functions. About modems. the Saturn can be used to browse the web but various codes is not supported like the fake flash that is being used today. Edited June 17, 2008 by Red_Queen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadow460 #4 Posted June 18, 2008 Well, the AV cable is kind of a pain to rebuild from what I hear. You might be stuck with RF unless you want to tap one of the other video outputs contained within the jack. Controllers are a little easier, depending on what you want. Light guns and even the 3D pad are easy enough to come by. The Twin Stick and Arcade Racer are quite difficult to locate. As for running Genesis games, well, to my knowledge that's completely impossible since the Saturn hardware is totally different. You might be able to hammer them into the slot and try, though. There are several cartridges the Saturn does use. They include a 1 and a 4 MB RAM cart (works much like the N64 Expansion Pak), the ST Key to play import games, the Game Shark to cheat, the Pro Action Replay which combines all of those, a couple of proprietary ROM carts (KOF '95 and one other), a memory card, and the NetLink modem. I probably missed some, too. Recommendations: 3D pad along with NiGHTS. This will also work in place of the Arcade Racer. Nuby Super Cobra (light gun), works with PS1 and 2 also as a Justifier or a GunCon Stunner/Virtua Gun (first party, but not as accurate as the Super Cobra) Sega Backup cart for your game saves (forget the third party ones) and a whole host of games. If you can grab Shining the Holy Ark, do it. Be forewarned that you will need to take off work for a month, cancel all of your appointments and arrange for child care throughout that time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red_Queen #5 Posted June 18, 2008 Saturn hardware is totally different. Nope, It is the same hardware in terms of compadibility. You can even run 32X games on a Saturn. It just does not have the commands and slots to do so. You might be able to hammer them into the slot and try, though. That is not true. It has nothing to identify or where and what to use. N64 Expansion Pak Is a graphics accellerator is used to improve graphics by alternating memory and allowing the hardware to do more work in various areas. While it is a memory expansion few saturn games unlike the N64 used it to expand memory usage. Like Sureal music for example along with sound effects. The Saturn memory card is used to improve over all load times, and load extra graphics ( which is not common in any game ). However there is many 2d arcade games that uses it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kroogur #6 Posted June 18, 2008 Theres a local shop here that sells used games and consoles i'll check them out on my lunch break. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reaperman #7 Posted June 18, 2008 Saturn hardware is totally different. Nope, It is the same hardware in terms of compadibility. You can even run 32X games on a Saturn. It just does not have the commands and slots to do so. okay, so it's missing the software/firmware and slot hardware to play most of those games, so it doesn't play genesis games... As near as I can figure, chip backward compatibility is all saturn might have going for it, meaning it has as much chance of playing a genesis game as an apple IIgs has of playing a famicom title. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kevincal #8 Posted June 18, 2008 ...with no hookups or controllers at all. Where can I snag some? Also, am I correct that the Saturn can play Genesis games? You know, if the Saturn was capable of that and maybe increased the resolution of Genesis games, it may just have beaten the PS. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kroogur #9 Posted June 18, 2008 Ok they have a aftermarket RF switch NIB for $10, used Superpad controllers for $5 ea. games for $5 -$10 ea. and the guy said the power cable for a PS/1 PS/2 or an XBox may work. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Inky #10 Posted June 18, 2008 I know absolutely nothing about the saturn, and that cart slot on the back threw me off Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadow460 #11 Posted June 18, 2008 I know absolutely nothing about the saturn, and that cart slot on the back threw me off Yeah, it's for a few things, but the Saturn doesn't have any backward compatibility. It would have been nice if it did. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red_Queen #12 Posted June 19, 2008 that cart slot on the back threw me off I can figure, chip backward compatibility is all saturn might have going for it, meaning it has as much chance of playing a genesis game as an apple IIgs has of playing a famicom title. the Saturn doesn't have any backward compatibility. The Saturn was built to play all past SEGA consoles and can no diffrently then a NES to SNES converter but the hardware is matched to do everything. Unlike a apple II high on NES the Saturn was built specifically to play past systems but dew to concerns of SEGA's market the feature was removed. Think of it like a NES to SNES or Master System to Genesis but somewhere in the middle. Another example is SNES to N64 but there was SNES hardware built into the N64 like Mode 7 or the Sound Mod/Mp3 player. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gemeni #13 Posted June 19, 2008 (edited) I just bought a sega saturn myself on ebay sadly it isn't coming with any games if anyonw has a panzer dragoon 2 cib for sega saturn I will buy it off you just pm me! Edited June 19, 2008 by Gemeni Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MCHufnagel #14 Posted June 19, 2008 that cart slot on the back threw me off I can figure, chip backward compatibility is all saturn might have going for it, meaning it has as much chance of playing a genesis game as an apple IIgs has of playing a famicom title. the Saturn doesn't have any backward compatibility. The Saturn was built to play all past SEGA consoles and can no diffrently then a NES to SNES converter but the hardware is matched to do everything. Unlike a apple II high on NES the Saturn was built specifically to play past systems but dew to concerns of SEGA's market the feature was removed. Think of it like a NES to SNES or Master System to Genesis but somewhere in the middle. Another example is SNES to N64 but there was SNES hardware built into the N64 like Mode 7 or the Sound Mod/Mp3 player. "coughbullshitcough" When are you going to back up your statements with some credible sources? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmy Yakapucci #15 Posted June 19, 2008 It seems like Red_Queen is using the same source for the Saturn information as for the information about Ys and Shining Force. In other words, Red_Queenus Rectumus. JY Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
godslabrat #16 Posted June 20, 2008 It seems like Red_Queen is using the same source for the Saturn information as for the information about Ys and Shining Force. In other words, Red_Queenus Rectumus. JY Word on the street is that Red_Queen is a known troll under a new name. (link) My personal rule in these cases is that there is a such thing as being conspicuously stupid. When you see a poster who can't get a single fact right, ever, chances are excellent that they're intentionally being dense. AKA, trolling. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites