Community Project:2600 Hero

[Mord]

I'd be interested in seeing how it would look, although I don't know what you would do for the controller.

 

When it comes right down to it, it's the kind of game that would still beg for a unique controller made for it. Wire up the up/down/left/right for the buttons to press and the fire button for the pick or whatever. That would make it difficult to sell the cartridge tho, if you had to make customized guitars for it.

 

I'm sure someone here would go out and rewire a guitar hero guitar just to prove it's possible before too long.

[Primordial Ooze]

If I may:

 

Someone had made a C64 port of Guitar Hero, and with it he made a Playstation-C64 interface:

 

http://www.synthdreams.com/psx64.php

 

This should also -- logically -- allow the Atari 2600 to take advantage of Playstation controllers, right? Thus, a guitar- run Guitar Hero port on the Atari 2600 (or a Dance Dance Revolution port like one that was demoed a few years ago here) is possible!

An adapter that will allow you to plug in your ps2 guitar controller is due to arrive very soon. So no hacks will be nesessary.

 

2600 Hero

[Josh]

So what tracks should this game have?

If we plan on doing anything we most likely shouldn't start out with copyrighted material, as to cover our asses on being sued. (Sorry for the language, Thats just the only way I could think of saying it.)

 

As for the songs, here are my recommended tracks:

Trogdor (I'm the sure the brothers chaps would be happy to let us use the song.)

Maybe a Remix of the Atari Jingle?

 

That really all I can think of at the moment...

 

Watching Lethal Weapon... So um...

Yeah.

[jrok]

So what tracks should this game have?

If we plan on doing anything we most likely shouldn't start out with copyrighted material, as to cover our asses on being sued. (Sorry for the language, Thats just the only way I could think of saying it.)

 

Why should this be sold at all? It would be much better as an open, evolving binary, so that composers can continually update their own versions with new songs. Besides which, the concept isn't even ours. It wouldn't be right to sell it.

[Primordial Ooze]

So what tracks should this game have?

If we plan on doing anything we most likely shouldn't start out with copyrighted material, as to cover our asses on being sued. (Sorry for the language, Thats just the only way I could think of saying it.)

 

Why should this be sold at all? It would be much better as an open, evolving binary, so that composers can continually update their own versions with new songs. Besides which, the concept isn't even ours. It wouldn't be right to sell it.

There are no plans to sell it. As the title suggests it a community project and therefore open source. I started a wiki where artists can post their own songs so players can copy and paste it into the source code and play it as well as a way to showcase their work.

Edited January 10, 2009 by Open Source Pong

[MausGames]

That's ok, i know you didn't mean to discourage me. The only problem with missiles and the ball is they share the same color as the player so there's no way to set the missiles/balls color based on which chord it is "running" on. That leaves me with using the multisprite kernel which has it's own problems that come with using it and flickering the chord as you stated above. Any idea on how to flicker the chord and any repercussions it may bring?

 

2600Hero

 

That's not entirely true. You can use multicolored sprites since your game is layed out horizontally and create color tables that are longer than the player0 and player1 sprites. Then line up the extended color tables with the missiles to fill in the other two lines with seperate colors You have to watch out though because one players missile will overlap the other player and missile, and I don't remember which one.

 

So it would go, vertically

 

missile

sprite

missile

sprite

 

With the color tables for each sprite also separately coloring the missiles.

 

If you flicker between the sprites and the missiles, you can use NUSIZ to create clusters of 2 or 3 notes, spaced closely or a little farther apart. The trade off being that you can only have three notes at a time per line or you end up with 20hz or worse flicker. I guess it's not really a trade off, because I can't think of any way you could reasonably get more than 3 notes on a line without using the playfield.

Edited January 10, 2009 by MausGames

[Primordial Ooze]

That's ok, i know you didn't mean to discourage me. The only problem with missiles and the ball is they share the same color as the player so there's no way to set the missiles/balls color based on which chord it is "running" on. That leaves me with using the multisprite kernel which has it's own problems that come with using it and flickering the chord as you stated above. Any idea on how to flicker the chord and any repercussions it may bring?

 

2600Hero

 

That's not entirely true. You can use multicolored sprites since your game is layed out horizontally and create color tables that are longer than the player0 and player1 sprites. Then line up the extended color tables with the missiles to fill in the other two lines with seperate colors You have to watch out though because one players missile will overlap the other player and missile, and I don't remember which one.

 

So it would go, vertically

 

missile

sprite

missile

sprite

 

With the color tables for each sprite also separately coloring the missiles.

 

If you flicker between the sprites and the missiles, you can use NUSIZ to create clusters of 2 or 3 notes, spaced closely or a little farther apart. The trade off being that you can only have three notes at a time per line or you end up with 20hz or worse flicker. I guess it's not really a trade off, because I can't think of any way you could reasonably get more than 3 notes on a line without using the playfield.

And i ended up using the playfield as the chords and changed the layout so the notes go from top to bottom like the real guitar hero. You can try it out by downloading the latest source i posted.

[Shawn]

GH needs to be virtical scrolling, the horizon layout just looks stupid.

[Primordial Ooze]

GH needs to be virtical scrolling, the horizon layout just looks stupid.

The layout is vertical, it was change because many people asked for it.

 

2600 Hero

Edited January 10, 2009 by Open Source Pong

[Math You]

Maybe it could be like Kaboom except with falling notes instead of bombs

Edited January 10, 2009 by Math You

[Primordial Ooze]

That wouldn't be in the spirit of Guitar Hero. Guitar Hero is a music/rythum game, not a game about reflexes and randomness.

 

2600 Hero

[Primordial Ooze]

So what tracks should this game have?

If we plan on doing anything we most likely shouldn't start out with copyrighted material, as to cover our asses on being sued. (Sorry for the language, Thats just the only way I could think of saying it.)

 

As for the songs, here are my recommended tracks:

Trogdor (I'm the sure the brothers chaps would be happy to let us use the song.)

Maybe a Remix of the Atari Jingle?

 

That really all I can think of at the moment...

 

Watching Lethal Weapon... So um...

Yeah.

Is there some way to contact the author of Trogdor to ask for permission?

 

2600 Hero

[Mord]

Is there some way to contact the author of Trogdor to ask for permission?

 

Just contact them by email. I'm sure their email is on their website somewhere.

 

Heck, there might be other songs that they've done that might work well for this project as well.

 

 

--

Mord

Edited January 10, 2009 by Mord

[Primordial Ooze]

Sent

 

Hi,

 

I have started a community project called 2600 Hero. 2600 Hero is an Atari 2600 port of Guitar Hero. Some members of the Atari Age board have suggested i contact you to use some of your songs for my game. Please let me know as your earliest convenience if this is would be possible. For reference the songs in the game are encoded as follows:

 

*****************************************************

* Music Data Block

*****************************************************

* Format:

* v,c,f (voice 0)

* v,c,f (voice 1)

* d

*

* Explanation:

* v - volume (0 to 15)

* c - control [a.k.a. tone, voice, and distortion] (0 to 15)

* f - frequency (0 to 31)

* d - duration

 

MusicSetup

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end

 

Thank You for your time,

 

2600 Hero

 

Any particular songs i should request from them?

 

2600 Hero

Edited January 10, 2009 by Open Source Pong

[Noelio]

Guitari Hero!

[Josh]

Trogdor, Holiday Thwmakmas Man, Because its Midnite, Different Town.

[jrok]

I don't understand why we are contacting anyone about contributing music. There isn't even a workable demo yet... just a "brand name."

 

Why not just throw any simple song in the engine and attempt some gameplay... even "Mary Had a Little Lamb" would do for now.

[Primordial Ooze]

Cause until we have a "playable" song, it will be difficult to add the gameplay. Since i am not good at making music on the atari, i need contrbutions for the music as even "Marry Had a Little Lamb" is way above me.

 

2600 Hero

[jrok]

Cause until we have a "playable" song, it will be difficult to add the gameplay. Since i am not good at making music on the atari, i need contrbutions for the music as even "Marry Had a Little Lamb" is way above me.

 

2600 Hero

 

Well, since this is being programmed for bB, why not aproach a bB porgrammer for music. For example, Chris Reade (atari2600land) composed a simple but very good version of "Greensleeves" for his game "Jack and the Bean Stalk." As long as he doesn't mind it being used, he has posted his bB source in that thread.

 

Jarod

[Primordial Ooze]

I looked at the source and it would need to be modified to work with the song format i am using. I have contacted the author here and am waiting for a response.

 

2600 Hero

Edited January 11, 2009 by Open Source Pong

[Primordial Ooze]

UPDATE:atari2600land has agreed to let us use his song "greensleeves" in 2600 Hero. As soon as the song is converted into the proper format, it will be confirmed as athe first song avaiable for release.

 

2600 Hero

[Primordial Ooze]

I have added the song "greensleves" which sounds awsome by the way, to the current game engine and as soon as the song is confirmed as being imported correctly, i will start trying to gather infomation on adding and syncing the notes to the song.

2600Hero.bas

2600Hero.bas.bin

Edited January 12, 2009 by Open Source Pong

[Primordial Ooze]

It seems everyone has lost interest in my game despite making alot of progress in such a short amount of time. Is anyone still interested in me porting guitar hero to the atari 2600 or can i lay this project to rest?

 

2600 Hero

[lapetino]

It seems everyone has lost interest in my game despite making alot of progress in such a short amount of time. Is anyone still interested in me porting guitar hero to the atari 2600 or can i lay this project to rest?

 

2600 Hero

 

Please continue! Even though I can't help technically, I want to encourage you--keep working on it. This has the potential to be pretty cool!

[lapetino]

Guitari Hero!

Perfect name!