8th lutz #1 Posted February 26, 2009 (edited) http://kotaku.com/5160745/super-mario-kart...game-in-history 1. Super Mario Kart 2. Tetris 3. Grand Theft Auto 4. Super Mario World 5. Zelda Ocarina of Time 6. Halo 7. Resident Evil IV 8. Final Fantasy XII 9. Street Fighter II 10. GoldenEye 11. Super Mario 64 12. Tomb Raider 13. Metal Gear Solid 14. Call of Duty 4 15. Sonic the Hedgehog 2 16. GTA San Andreas 17. Super Mario Bros 18. Zelda: A Link to the Past 19. Gran Turismo 20. Final Fantasy VII 21. Pro Evolution Soccer 4 22. The Orange Box 23. Lego Star Wars Complete Saga 24. Tekken 2 25. Wii Sports 26. Pokemon Red/Blue 27. Guitar Hero 28. Project Gotham Racing 4 29. Super Mario Galaxy 30. Resident Evil 31. Ico 32. Chrono Trigger 33. Gunstar Heroes 34. Soul Calibur 35. Advance Wars 36. Ridge Racer 37. Super Metroid 38. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night 39. GTA Vice City 40. BioShock 41. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 42. The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening 43. God of War 44. Sega Rally Championship 45. Starfox 64 46. Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion 47. WarioWare Inc 48. Saturn Bomberman 49. Crash Bandicoot 50. Outrun 2 That list is from the Guinness World Records 2009 Gamer's Edition. That list is terrible imo. Edited February 26, 2009 by 8th lutz Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+FujiSkunk #2 Posted February 26, 2009 Dude, what? This list fails. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xZanU #3 Posted February 26, 2009 Worst List Ever. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Cafeman #4 Posted February 26, 2009 When I read the subject about the "most influential video games", I immediately thought of Pong, Space Invaders, Pac-Man, Tetris, and either Castle Wolfenstein3D/Doom. This list fails! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fdurso224 #5 Posted February 26, 2009 Hi Lutz, Thanks for the information. But Unfortunately, Guinness (IMO) has to either remove some of those games, or reshuffle the order lineup. Super Mario Kart at No.1? Its certainly a influential and fun as sin game. My girlfriends enjoys the franchises wacky & comical humor in go kart form (Thunderbolt anyone, or a heat seeking red shell?) But not 1st place. I would probably put it at No.9-12. Anthony.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pinball22 #6 Posted February 26, 2009 How can a list of the most influential games in history fail to include anything before 1985? Or be primarily of things since 1995? Or include multiple things that are less than two years old? Yes, this is a list of good games, but it's a complete fail at matching the title. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kripto #7 Posted February 26, 2009 Wow. No Quake? MANY other major omissions... Who made this list, a granny in some other country? Whoever's responsible should be fired for lack of qualifications and incompetence. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darthkur #8 Posted February 26, 2009 Whoever's responsible should be fired for lack of qualifications and incompetence. That's for sure. How pathetic. Tetris was about the only one one there that belonged. Not one mere mention of the actual games that created the entire existence of video games in the first place. Pong, Space War, Space Invaders, Pac-Man, etc. I think whoever was put in charge decided to delegate the task to their 16 year old son. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Ransom #9 Posted February 26, 2009 I think I'll make a list of most influential record books, and leave Guinness off it. (I suppose it's too much to ask that people publishing such lists work with someone who's past his teen years.) Honestly, to me, the list seems like they were pulled out of someone's ass. There's no rhyme or reason to it as far as I can see. I can't fathom the basis upon which they were judging games. Clearly it wasn't influence on the gaming industry. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xZanU #10 Posted February 26, 2009 That's for sure. How pathetic. Tetris was about the only one one there that belonged. Not one mere mention of the actual games that created the entire existence of video games in the first place. Pong, Space War, Space Invaders, Pac-Man, etc. I think whoever was put in charge decided to delegate the task to their 16 year old son. I think you may be on to something! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
carmel_andrews #11 Posted February 26, 2009 Dude, what? This list fails. This list is 'Epic Fail....times or to the power of infinity...Perhaps a 16 year old has just taken over the publishing of this once great book Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Emehr #12 Posted February 26, 2009 And what library of games has Bioshock influenced in its one year (or whatever) of existence? What a load of bullsh!t. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iwan-iwanowitsch-goratschin #13 Posted February 26, 2009 This list was made by bloody amateurs........ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fdurso224 #14 Posted February 27, 2009 No argument here! :D Anthony.... This list was made by bloody amateurs........ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rpgfaker #15 Posted February 27, 2009 Ahh..I see the problem here so we invited a crack team of industry experts to form a judging panel - and the result is a "top 50" list of games ranked both on their importance and on how fun they are to play." I always hated industry experts Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rybags #16 Posted February 27, 2009 +1 fail The list was probably contracted out to some Generation Y wannabee who has never played a 2D game in his life. There are certain (some already mentioned) older games that would remain unmovable on any "influence" list, such as: Pong, Space Invaders, Pacman. Even E.T. (2600) could rate a mention as it could be regarded as a catalyst of the '83 crash. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supercat #17 Posted February 27, 2009 Wow. No Quake? MANY other major omissions... Tetris certainly belongs on the list, though it should rank behind Super Mario Bros (a game which drove the second video game revolution, targeting those who already had home computers). Off the top of my head, here are some important games: Odyssey -- First home console. Pong -- Certainly in the arcade; knock-offs were by far the most common home video machines until ROM-cartridge systems took over. Combat -- Launch title for the first massively successful game console. Space Invaders -- Major arcade license that dwarfed what came before. Adventure/Superman -- Pioneered the use of a world larger than the screen (Superman was published first, but it was derived from preliminary work on Adventure). Kaboom! -- Put Activision on the map. Pitfall! -- First game to try to create a realistic running-man animation (Donkey Kong had good graphics, but Mario shuffled around, while Pitfall Harry ran smoothly). Perhaps the first game to create the illusion of a world which was too large to be fully tracked, but which allowed one to revisit previously-seen areas. Wolf3d -- Not the first 3d texture-map game on the PC (id software's Catacombs 3d predates it) but the first such game to become popular. Doom -- Introduced a new style of texture-mapped gaming, with arbitrarily-angled walls and variable-height floors and ceilings. Quake -- Introduced a new style of texture-mapped gaming, with full support for arbitrary 3d angles as well as real-time lighting and precomputed shadows. Are there even a dozen games on Guiness' list that were as influential as even the least significant of the ones listed above? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supercat #18 Posted February 27, 2009 Pong, Space Invaders, Pacman. Even E.T. (2600) could rate a mention as it could be regarded as a catalyst of the '83 crash. An inescapable cause of the '83 crash was the fact that there were so many companies trying to develop games that the amount of money spent on development exceeded the total revenue customers had to spend. Things might have happened differently were it not for Atari's mis-steps with Pac-Man and E.T. but the crash was going to happen regardless. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mirage #19 Posted February 27, 2009 ++ Truly about the worst possible effort I can imagine for a list of top 50 most Influential Games in History. Obviously this kid's knowledge of "history" (or logic) is extremely limited. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kevincal #21 Posted February 27, 2009 WTF @ Super Mario... KART!?!? haha, it's a great game but not even close to number 1. Super Mario Bros. 1 should be #1 because that one and only game brought videogames back from the dead and the videogame business has been BOOMING ever since! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
STICH666 #22 Posted February 27, 2009 Whoever's responsible should be fired for lack of qualifications and incompetence. That's for sure. How pathetic. Tetris was about the only one one there that belonged. Not one mere mention of the actual games that created the entire existence of video games in the first place. Pong, Space War, Space Invaders, Pac-Man, etc. I think whoever was put in charge decided to delegate the task to their 16 year old son who is not a gamer. Fix'd Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
STICH666 #23 Posted February 27, 2009 (edited) http://kotaku.com/5160745/super-mario-kart...game-in-history 1. Super Mario Kart 2. Tetris 3. Grand Theft Auto 4. Super Mario World 5. Zelda Ocarina of Time 6. Halo 7. Resident Evil IV 8. Final Fantasy XII 9. Street Fighter II 10. GoldenEye 11. Super Mario 64 12. Tomb Raider 13. Metal Gear Solid 14. Call of Duty 4 15. Sonic the Hedgehog 2 16. GTA San Andreas 17. Super Mario Bros 18. Zelda: A Link to the Past 19. Gran Turismo------GT2 was much more influential 20. Final Fantasy VII 21. Pro Evolution Soccer 4--------Why the fuck is this on the list? 22. The Orange Box 23. Lego Star Wars Complete Saga 24. Tekken 2 25. Wii Sports 26. Pokemon Red/Blue 27. Guitar Hero 28. Project Gotham Racing 4-------Not even close to as good as 3 or 2 29. Super Mario Galaxy 30. Resident Evil 31. Ico 32. Chrono Trigger 33. Gunstar Heroes 34. Soul Calibur 35. Advance Wars 36. Ridge Racer 37. Super Metroid 38. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night 39. GTA Vice City-----------Notice how they failed to mention III. That was more influential than any game in the past 10 years 40. BioShock 41. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 42. The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening 43. God of War 44. Sega Rally Championship 45. Starfox 64 46. Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion----------Again why the fuck is this on the list? This game should just be called "this game will fuck your 360 over IV" 47. WarioWare Inc 48. Saturn Bomberman 49. Crash Bandicoot 50. Outrun 2 That list is from the Guinness World Records 2009 Gamer's Edition. That list is terrible imo. There I highlighted the games that had nothing to do with gaming culture as a whole and the ones that nobody would have known the difference if they weren't made. Half fails are on italicized. Edited February 27, 2009 by STICH666 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mirage #24 Posted February 27, 2009 I sure hope a lot of people write to these jokers. Nice that it's from a "Gamer's Edition" pffft. And what does this have anything to do with World Records anyway? They should stick to just recording actual records. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reaperman #25 Posted February 27, 2009 (edited) where's elite? sim city? (or hell, sim anything) dragon warrior? zork? hard drivin'? robotron? space invaders? dance dance revolution? rampart? what the list needs in terms of games are the first significant titles of their kind, really revolutionary titles, not just the latest evolution of an idea. Not to mention titles old enough that we can see how they've influenced gaming, instead of just guessing. Without dragon warrior, I don't think there'd be a final fantasy 12 (or a hundred other good games for that matter), but without final fantasy 12, all we know for sure is that we wouldn't have final fantasy 13... (I *really* do agree with tetris though. it's a game, it's a genre, the world is a better place because it was created) so we invited a crack team of industry experts to form a judging panel - and the result is a "top 50" list of games ranked both on their importance and on how fun they are to play." what the hell, aren't we "gaming industry experts?" I've got 25 years of gaming experience that says the list is mostly bunk. Edited February 27, 2009 by Reaperman Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites