Atari 65 XE

[Dazz]

Can anyone tell me the price of a CIB Atari 65XE computer. I have a friend that has one FS and he would like to know if it is worth selling. I do not see any on ebay.

[flashjazzcat]

I'd say it's worth selling. There's a new, boxed 130XE on US eBay with a buy it now of $150. If the 65XE isn't yellowed and is in excellent general condition, I don't see why it couldn't fetch up to $100. IIRC, unboxed, visibly aged 130XEs regularly go for £30-£50 here in the UK.

Edited March 4, 2009 by flashjazzcat

[Mirage]

Are they really worth that much? Stuff is listed on ebay with BIN's of far more than they're really worth on a regular basis. Not saying it's NOT worth that much, I'd just be curious to hear more evidence or opinions. I had no idea XE's were worth that much more than XL's. Sure they're a bit more rare, but they're much more cheaply made than the XLs. I understand the XE's are good for modding though?

[sl0re]

Are they really worth that much? Stuff is listed on ebay with BIN's of far more than they're really worth on a regular basis. Not saying it's NOT worth that much, I'd just be curious to hear more evidence or opinions. I had no idea XE's were worth that much more than XL's. Sure they're a bit more rare, but they're much more cheaply made than the XLs. I understand the XE's are good for modding though?

 

They are not worth that much. Especially if it is a 65XE without the ECI.

 

I just bought a used 130xe for $30 that was on ebay (no one bid so I contacted the seller and offered the $30 if he wouldn't charge so much shipping...)...

 

A new in the box 130xe just went for $70.

 

800's were up in value for awhile but then people responded by offering more for sale and pushed the prices back down...

 

PS

But yeah, there are more cool mods for XEs since they're popular in Europe and the mods seem to mostly come from there.

Edited March 4, 2009 by sl0re

[Mirage]

Okay, that's what I thought... I just got my 130XE awesome condition in a big $75 8-bit lot, and I'd seen others sell for less than that $100. I would have said $20-$30 (at most) for a loose 65XE with PS but wasn't sure.

 

When I saw that post, I was considering selling my 130! I know what you mean about the 800's... I was considering offering one of my 2 up, but then saw the prices come back down. For $30-$40, I'll just keep it as a backup.

Edited March 4, 2009 by Mirage1972

[flashjazzcat]

Good point about the BIN price: I think that 130XE has been listed for a LONG time. I was watching a 130XE in the UK a few weeks back right at the end of the auction. It was far from pristine and it went for over £30 (not to me; it jumped from £10 in the last few seconds). I think it's like anything with ebay: it's all down to timing and demand.

[Mirage]

That, and I'd bet that for most things the demand and price between countries can vary as well. Average price for UK on something may be different (or the same) in the US.

[sl0re]

That, and I'd bet that for most things the demand and price between countries can vary as well. Average price for UK on something may be different (or the same) in the US.

 

Yeah, and some of the Euro (Polish and German) mods end up on Ebay UK cheap.

 

Good idea to check it now and then if you need mods.

[Dazz]

That, and I'd bet that for most things the demand and price between countries can vary as well. Average price for UK on something may be different (or the same) in the US.

 

Yeah, and some of the Euro (Polish and German) mods end up on Ebay UK cheap.

 

Good idea to check it now and then if you need mods.

 

 

I should add that i am in the US and this is a US version.

[8bitguy1]

That, and I'd bet that for most things the demand and price between countries can vary as well. Average price for UK on something may be different (or the same) in the US.

 

Yeah, and some of the Euro (Polish and German) mods end up on Ebay UK cheap.

 

Good idea to check it now and then if you need mods.

 

 

I should add that i am in the US and this is a US version.

 

The economist in me wants to say its worth whatever someone will pay...but I've been hunting 65xe's for a while I now and I think a good condition one is in the 40 dollar range....speaking of, if the seller wants to make a deal I'm still hunting, PM me and we can work something out. I'm in Canada so NTSC version is good for me.

[Mirage]

Yes, it's always what someone is willing to pay. That's the definition and textbook answer. It's true. But most people look at past sales amounts for something like this, and that influences what they're "willing to pay". Especially in a collectibles market like this. No one needs a 65XE. If you've seen them sell in the $40 range ($US? or $CA?) fairly consistently, then that's probably fair, seeing as how most people probably wouldn't want to pay $100 knowing that all the others have sold for less than half that. If that makes any sense.

 

FWIW, if I were in the market for one, and I saw a really really nice one with PS, I probably wouldn't mind paying $30-$40 for a 65XE. I wouldn't feel I was getting a stellar deal, but a fair one, sure.

 

People consistently get "good deals" on stuff, and also consistently "over pay". I've done both. Most of us have.

[_The Doctor__]

I think fair value and not crazy whatever someone is willing to pay rhetoric is the best policy. It's the shark mentality that gets us all into trouble every time. But hey looking at world history, the repeated loss of civilizations, empires and you might just see the trend.

Repeating the same acts over and over again and expecting a different outcome is one definition of insanity.

Yes, it's always what someone is willing to pay. That's the definition and textbook answer. It's true. But most people look at past sales amounts for something like this, and that influences what they're "willing to pay". Especially in a collectibles market like this. No one needs a 65XE. If you've seen them sell in the $40 range ($US? or $CA?) fairly consistently, then that's probably fair, seeing as how most people probably wouldn't want to pay $100 knowing that all the others have sold for less than half that. If that makes any sense.

 

FWIW, if I were in the market for one, and I saw a really really nice one with PS, I probably wouldn't mind paying $30-$40 for a 65XE. I wouldn't feel I was getting a stellar deal, but a fair one, sure.

 

People consistently get "good deals" on stuff, and also consistently "over pay". I've done both. Most of us have.

[sl0re]

I think fair value and not crazy whatever someone is willing to pay rhetoric is the best policy. It's the shark mentality that gets us all into trouble every time. But hey looking at world history, the repeated loss of civilizations, empires and you might just see the trend.

Repeating the same acts over and over again and expecting a different outcome is one definition of insanity.

Yes, it's always what someone is willing to pay. That's the definition and textbook answer. It's true. But most people look at past sales amounts for something like this, and that influences what they're "willing to pay". Especially in a collectibles market like this. No one needs a 65XE. If you've seen them sell in the $40 range ($US? or $CA?) fairly consistently, then that's probably fair, seeing as how most people probably wouldn't want to pay $100 knowing that all the others have sold for less than half that. If that makes any sense.

 

FWIW, if I were in the market for one, and I saw a really really nice one with PS, I probably wouldn't mind paying $30-$40 for a 65XE. I wouldn't feel I was getting a stellar deal, but a fair one, sure.

 

People consistently get "good deals" on stuff, and also consistently "over pay". I've done both. Most of us have.

 

'Fair' value causes its own problems. In practice econ stagnation (middle ages-church / modern-socialism) and when pushed as active ideology... it also causes wars.

[Mirage]

I think fair value and not crazy whatever someone is willing to pay rhetoric is the best policy. It's the shark mentality that gets us all into trouble every time. But hey looking at world history, the repeated loss of civilizations, empires and you might just see the trend.

Repeating the same acts over and over again and expecting a different outcome is one definition of insanity.

Yes, it's always what someone is willing to pay. That's the definition and textbook answer. It's true. But most people look at past sales amounts for something like this, and that influences what they're "willing to pay". Especially in a collectibles market like this. No one needs a 65XE. If you've seen them sell in the $40 range ($US? or $CA?) fairly consistently, then that's probably fair, seeing as how most people probably wouldn't want to pay $100 knowing that all the others have sold for less than half that. If that makes any sense.

 

FWIW, if I were in the market for one, and I saw a really really nice one with PS, I probably wouldn't mind paying $30-$40 for a 65XE. I wouldn't feel I was getting a stellar deal, but a fair one, sure.

 

People consistently get "good deals" on stuff, and also consistently "over pay". I've done both. Most of us have.

 

I'm not sure of your meaning here... I think I was basically saying the same thing you are. Just use common sense, what similar items have sold for in the past etc. I sure hope you weren't referring to anything I said as "shark mentality"... I don't think you were, but if you were, you sorely misunderstood my meaning! Cuz I'm really not too sure how that turned into a world history comment!

[Mirage]

I should clarify what I said above:

 

An auction is exactly what you're saying... it's a way of finding out what someone is willing to pay for a particular item. That's the definition... finding out the price the exact current market under the current conditions will pay. It's not perfect for various reasons I won't go into, but it's about as perfect as we have.

 

In the absence of an auction, if someone is just trying to sell an item (say, in a forum) and there's only one person interested (or no one yet, in the case of a question like in the original post above), then one way of determining potential, or "fair" value, is to look at past sales, including (usually mainly) auctions. If more than one person is interested, then they can make offers and it turns into more like an auction situation, otherwise, all you can do is predict based on past sales.

 

There's nothing "shark mentality" about that. It's just a way of determining past value and predicting current value. That's all it is. It really has nothing to do with world domination, wars, world history, etc etc etc in any meaningful way.

Edited March 5, 2009 by Mirage1972